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Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


kecske posted:

what do you do about liability insurance etc for a setup like this?

This was one of the problems which the council suddenly dropped on us in January of this year, having never mentioned it before. Thankfully someone else in the village works in planning and got us some grant or other that pays the insurance on an ongoing basis, as long as certain things are maintained. The county council have agreed to cover this so we get our bins emptied as well as some things we've not been able to do like felling/heavy pruning of trees and maintaining the two bridges over the brook. It is the county council contacting the parish council over these services which has finally, finally got them to give it public support after literally years of dragging their feet.

Sanford fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Nov 2, 2020

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


Should be wearing 11 poppies.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

learnincurve posted:

Homeless people got the set up from number 2 going on in the woods owned by the water board in our area, only theirs is tarp rather than canvas, and they got some of those fishing chairs.

*Very Tory voice*:

Waterboarding and people going number 2 in the woods?!? Clearly unacceptable behaviour!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Another friend has posted a big pic of piles of poppies and says "we're now into the 2 week Remembrance period in Britain". Since when did it become a 2 week period?
It always used to be a week, from the Sunday before the 11th to the Sunday after, so you were wearing one on the day. I guess they tacked an extra week on the start?

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I read that as Rebecca Long Bailey for a moment instead of Royal British Legion.
Rebecca Bong Lady

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
I shall be wearing my poppy with pride as we remember the brave men of the Royal Navy who risked their lives for free trade in the opium wars

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I read that as Rebecca Long Bailey for a moment instead of Royal British Legion.
Same except I've misread RBG as RLB so many times lately I just hypercorrected straight to RBG this time

Algol Star
Sep 6, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

Should be wearing 11 poppies.

Poppies in the shape of a clock showing 11:11

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

huffing poppers and thinking of england

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Soricidus posted:

I shall be wearing my poppy with pride as we remember the brave men of the Royal Navy who risked their lives for free trade in the opium wars
One of only two wars where the other side were doing worse atrocities than Britain.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Grey Hunter posted:

Starmer, well, its a shame he's" spins wheel of hate "A Gay Romanian Muslim."
None of that will happen to Starmer; he might even be allowed to win. It's important to the grand narrative that sensible centrism is seen as the only route to government for Labour.

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
And that’s including all the ones we weren’t even part of!

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

What is Kier Starmer's favourite food?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Wet eggs.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
lol if you think Starmer will get an easy ride from the tabs because he's a centrist

they're not going to let even a centrist Labour government get in while they can back a fully fash Tory one and keep pushing the Overton window as far right as possible

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Hate it when the US has more progressive policy than Britain.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

communism bitch posted:

None of that will happen to Starmer; he might even be allowed to win. It's important to the grand narrative that sensible centrism is seen as the only route to government for Labour.

Maybe but Blairism only existed because of a key moment of balance where selling off government assets in the core of capitalism created a gilding over the hollow organs of British society. PM Starmer would be as directionless as the Tories were without Brexit but he won't get handed any such saving grace and so be this lovely hated figure who does nothing and then loses control in whatever crisis comes after a year in power.

The wheels are properly coming off the UK and even if it's only just Scottish independence that happens there's going to be major upheavels no government is going to survive just being in power. The loving Tories have an 80 seat majority and shits popping off.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

namesake posted:

The wheels are properly coming off the UK

We're a boat now.

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Guavanaut posted:

Hate it when the US has more progressive policy than Britain.


Context? This isn't a link..

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

blunt posted:

Context? This isn't a link..

https://www.foxbusiness.com/real-estate/new-york-is-about-to-kill-a-whole-lot-of-landlords

quote:

Gov. Andrew Cuomo and President Trump made sure to protect tenants by banning evictions during the pandemic, but public officials have done almost nothing for property owners. That’s inviting disaster.

Many of these landlords, particularly mom-and-pop small-building owners, have been struggling for months to make ends meet as the COVID crisis drags on.

Thousands of tenants haven’t paid full rent. Others, looking to escape the virus, violent crime and plunging quality of life, have fled, pushing up the vacancy rate and forcing owners to grant concessions.

Meanwhile, landlord bills — including property taxes and water and sewage fees — have mounted, without letup. Cleaning and other costs have actually soared, thanks to the pandemic.

etc

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yeah it's Fox whining that NYC isn't sufficiently sucking off landlords, rather than them having a formal shoot-to-kill policy for them, but it's fun to pretend.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


"Mom and pop small building owners".

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/neo-nazis-uk-terrorism-attacks-harry-vaughan-b1536489.html

quote:

A neo-Nazi teenager who encouraged terror attacks and downloaded indecent images of young children has been spared jail.

Harry Vaughan, 18, made extremist propaganda and joined a spin-off of the National Action terrorist group.

He admitted 14 terror offences, including encouraging terrorism, and two of downloading indecent images of children that were linked to occult beliefs and Satanism.

The teenager was handed a suspended prison sentence at the Old Bailey on Monday.

A judge said he will not have to serve the 24-month term unless he commits more crimes or violates court orders in the next two years.

Mr Justice Sweeney ordered Vaughan to undergo a deradicalisation programme, rehabilitation activities and have his internet use monitored.

He warned him that if he violated the conditions or committed further offences, he would be sent to a young offenders’ institute to serve his sentence.

Prosecutors said Vaughan had been described as an “A* student” by teachers at the Tiffin boys’ grammar school in Kingston, and during legal proceedings he achieved the top grade in four A-level subjects.

His father, Jake Vaughan, holds the senior position of Reading Clerk in the House of Lords and the court heard his son had “every advantage that could be afforded to him” in life.

Naeem Mian QC, for the defence, described his parents as “bewildered”.

He told the court that Vaughan considered himself to have been “groomed” online through exposure to extremist material from the age of 14.

Mr Mian said a psychiatric report diagnosed him with high-functioning autism and a “deficiency in emotional intelligence”, which made him susceptible to influence from online groups.

“He disappeared down a rabbit hole of the internet and he was in a very dark place,” he added. “He has shown remorse and … stated that he no longer holds racist and homophobic views.”

The Old Bailey heard that Vaughan joined System Resistance Network (SRN), a spin-off of National Action which has since been banned, in 2018.

In an online application, Vaughan said he believed the “whole system is so diseased that it needs to be destroyed”.

“The time for discussion is over, the time for action is now,” he wrote. “I can handle myself in a fight and there is nothing I wouldn’t do if I thought it was essential to the cause.”

Prosecutor Dan Pawson-Pounds said he boasted to fellow neo-Nazis online that he had already been making his own posters to “spark tensions” in and around his school in Kingston, south-west London.

“Vaughan had an entrenched extreme right-wing racist mindset, as well as an interest in explosives, firearms and violence more generally,” he told the court.

“His posters endorse Nazism, violence, terrorism and acts by lone wolves.”

Between early 2018 and his arrest in June 2019, he was active across online platforms including a forum dedicated to fascism, “free speech” social network Gab and Discord messaging service.

Vaughan created and spread neo-Nazi posters, including some featuring images of Auschwitz and guns, with SRN’s network and that of Sonnenkrieg Division.

He also created an “idiots’ guide” for fellow extremists wanting to make their own propaganda, which was inspired by the Siege ideology of American neo-Nazi James Mason.


'Miss Hitler' and fellow neo-Nazis convicted of National Action membership
A specialist report concluded that the teenager followed a hybrid of occult “left-hand path” ideology and neo-Nazi accelerationism, which advocates terror attacks to bring about a race war.

The court heard the encouragement of terrorism charge was over three posters shared on the Fascist Forge forum, all with Sonnenkrieg Division’s logo, referencing hanging, arson and guns.

Vaughan admitted disseminating terrorist publications by directing forum users to an archive of viable instructions on creating homemade explosive devices and firearms.

He advised readers to encrypt the material and warned that they could be charged with the terror offences he was later prosecuted for.

“The feds can and will charge you if possible,” he wrote, calling material that other neo-Nazis had been jailed for as “like children's book in comparison”.

Vaughan also pleaded guilty to 12 counts of possessing documents of use to a terrorist, including on bomb-making, close combat techniques and building or adapting live-firearms.

He admitted two counts of downloading indecent images of children, which Mr Pawson-Pounds said were among a larger amount of material linked to the occult and Satanism.

All but two of more than 30 videos of children, including boys, had been deleted and had included the most serious category of child sex abuse images.

Vaughan was not charged with planning a terror attack himself, but Mr Pawson-Pounds said he had looked at online shopping websites for components including plastic pipes, and that evidence of his internet activity was limited.

Investigators managed to recover 4,200 images and 302 files that were all linked to extreme-right wing ideology, but Vaughan had made it impossible to access other material.

The court heard Vaughan had used “sophisticated” techniques to conceal his online activity and delete files, including encryption, the dark web and rebooting his laptop’s operating system.

He also used aliases online but was arrested after a national counter terrorism operation identified him among individuals posting messages on an extremist website.

IllusionistTrixie
Feb 6, 2003

TheRat posted:

Sir Keith is at it again. Wasn't nationalised broadband just about as popular a policy as it could possibly be?

https://twitter.com/schneiderhome/status/1323274989366398977

the anti national FREE broadband stuff was the literal straw that broke me from reasonable arguments in politics. Something that is a very basic, easy, net good with no downsides gets a huge backlash with arguments starting from, "oh it'll be badly mismanaged and be perfect, so don't do it." To "won't someone think of the poor isp monopolies. Who will suddenly have to provide a competitive service."

I couldn't do it. I couldn't even argue with these people. I can't even think of how to explain the wrongheadedness.

Random Integer
Oct 7, 2010

TheRat posted:

Sir Keith is at it again. Wasn't nationalised broadband just about as popular a policy as it could possibly be?

https://twitter.com/schneiderhome/status/1323274989366398977

From what I remember it was simultaneously popular and also considered completely unfeasible and therefore a sign that Labour weren't fit to govern.

In other words the British public have been so thoroughly abused by Capitalism into believing good things aren't possible that simply acknowledging something as good automatically means its impossible and actually you should do the opposite.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Here's the buried lede in what Jaeluni posted, for tl;dr purposes:

quote:

Prosecutors said Vaughan had been described as an “A* student” by teachers at the Tiffin boys’ grammar school in Kingston, and during legal proceedings he achieved the top grade in four A-level subjects.

His father, Jake Vaughan, holds the senior position of Reading Clerk in the House of Lords and the court heard his son had “every advantage that could be afforded to him” in life.

And yes this is a reason for a lenient sentence, because, well, uhh.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Nov 2, 2020

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad


"the Tiffin boys’ grammar school in Kingston"

The loving what, this is some tv satire name.

"All but two of more than 30 videos of children, including boys, had been deleted and had included the most serious category of child sex abuse images."

Is there a reason for this other than 'not only a pedo but a gay pedo' !!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

"Mom and pop small building owners".


LordVorbis posted:

the anti national FREE broadband stuff was the literal straw that broke me from reasonable arguments in politics. Something that is a very basic, easy, net good with no downsides gets a huge backlash with arguments starting from, "oh it'll be badly mismanaged and be perfect, so don't do it." To "won't someone think of the poor isp monopolies. Who will suddenly have to provide a competitive service."

I couldn't do it. I couldn't even argue with these people. I can't even think of how to explain the wrongheadedness.
Don't forget "they will use it to spy on people and regulate the internet" in ways unlike what they can already do, such as

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always



When kids go off the rails they're always either bullied too much or in this case not enough. We need to ascertain the exact right amount of bullying

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

quote:

The court heard Vaughan had used “sophisticated” techniques to conceal his online activity and delete files, including encryption, the dark web and rebooting his laptop’s operating system.
When you try to hide your files by rebooting your laptop.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Guavanaut posted:

When you try to hide your files by rebooting your laptop.


I dunno, regularly reinstalling Windows isn't a terrible plan for IT security.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

NoneMoreNegative posted:

"the Tiffin boys’ grammar school in Kingston"

The loving what, this is some tv satire name.

What's wrong with that name? It's literally Noun Boys Grammar School. Maybe a bit biscuity? And yes it was my school in fact. There are two grammar schools right next to each other in Kingston, the other one is where you have to pay thousands of pounds of fees to go to, but Tiffin is basically 11+ (or whatever the modern equivalent is), making it only marginally pretentious.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1323027570133213194
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1322250081014198272

IllusionistTrixie
Feb 6, 2003

Guavanaut posted:



Don't forget "they will use it to spy on people and regulate the internet" in ways unlike what they can already do, such as

I had actually forgotten that, and now I am retroactively mad.

Frekkie Melody
Feb 8, 2020

Mom & Pop stores are by far the most abusive employers you will find.

Mega corps at least abuse employees within the law. Mom and pop shops will do that and then go beyond the law because they figure the odds are in their favor anyway that you won't push too hard to demand your fundamental labor rights. Few and meager as they are.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Frekkie Melody posted:

Mega corps at least abuse employees within the law.

Heh

Frekkie Melody
Feb 8, 2020


The laws that they bent to their favor I mean :v:

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/AJScattergood/status/1323348563686993924
Marginally less poo poo than expected!

Although I think it was the SpyCops bill they planned to abstain on all the way.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Frekkie Melody posted:

The laws that they bent to their favor I mean :v:

That's still not true.

Frekkie Melody
Feb 8, 2020

Vigil for Virgil posted:

That's still not true.

It overwhelmingly is.

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Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

Frekkie Melody posted:

It overwhelmingly is.

It's true that they bent them to their favour. It's not true that they follow them.

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