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no_recall
Aug 17, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

Scruffpuff posted:

The only one I can think of offhand was the Half Life 2 episodes. They left them on a cliffhanger, said at the time they would be a series of mini-releases and they had this whole plan. Then it just dropped during development, creating memes about "HL3" but HL3 was never what was missing, it was HL2 episode 3.

They sort of retconned the storyline into HL:Alyx, so in the end they (sort of?) delivered, but it's a cliffhanger again anyway, so we're back to square one on that storyline.

I know I read about other properties they got X% through and then dropped, but I'd have to do research to remind myself what they were.

Valve technically said they got bored of getting money by spitting out clones with extended storylines and wanted to instead make new and innovative gameplay. That's the reason HL2 episodes were dropped.

Mirificus posted:

I would be captain as it's my ship so I would be in my quarters working out routes, cargo itinerary, staff wages and giving orders etc. I would have a second in command (officer) who would be my go between me and the crew, he would come to my quarters to take orders and then pass them on, we would have meetings to discuss if any of the crew were getting out of order and may need disciplining etc. There would be 2 cooks working to make 3 square meals a day and also luxury food for me, my 1st officer, other officers and favoured crew (like if one of them had done something heroic that day). They would write up shopping lists and work out costs per meal to take out of the crews wages for their board.

SO... I'm pledging more money, to play less game..?

I remember the days EVE Fleet Commanders multiboxed (is that still a thing today?) as both recon and backup to prevent other fleets from tailing the opsfleet. FleetOps was poo poo, worse than raiding in World of Warcraft.

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no_recall fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Nov 3, 2020

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Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
Chris Roborks plays star citizen

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Trilobite
Aug 15, 2001

Muscle Tracer posted:

being a sailor on a military ship was so legendarily awful and boring that navies literally just kidnapped randos and forced them to do it. who does this person think is going to pay real money and spend real time to get to roleplay "guy who pulls the rope sometimes but is mostly just sanding the deck"?

Don't forget filling out reports. That dude's dream game seems to be Report Writing Simulator 2020, complete with thrilling inventory gameplay and emergent grocery shopping list action!

commando in tophat
Sep 5, 2019

Thoatse posted:

I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.

Thanks, my english was permanently damaged by this

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

Jim DiGriz posted:

you don't believe in trickle down fun?

Mae Demming believes in tickle down funds. :sandance:

Jonny Shiloh
Mar 7, 2019
You 'orrible little man

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

Mirificus posted:

Literally, all that needs adding is... a few more ships.

like for instance I would be captain as it's my ship
This is pretty much essence of SC. Producing a lot of expensive chariots for guys that are using them to compensate for something. The rest is dreams.txt nonsense.

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"

:lol:

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"

Mirificus posted:

quote:

There is one thing that I'm not 100% sure on, and that is on the new Origin 300i V2 there are 2 wine glasses, why 2 wine glasses, it bugs me that there are 2. Is it meant to be a 2 man ship, where your pilot flies and you lie on the bed and drink wine? Once in QT or when waiting for the overheating to cool down does the pilot come over and sit down on the bed with you and drink a glass of wine? It might be a bit weird if you've only just met and hired him for this one trip. Is a pilot even allowed to drink, will it trigger a legal status? Other than verbally asking him not to drink your wine is there a way to stop him? Like is my drinks collection just an open bar to him or can I lock it? Or is it one of the NPC subsumption bonding mechanics of gameplay. Like you hire a medium quality pilot rather than fly yourself so you can kick back, listen to music or watch live news reports being broadcast by other players and when the pilot is doing nothing you can invite him or her over and try to impress them by offering them some exclusive, expensive champagne or red wine. That way their attitude towards you goes up which means over a few more interactions they will be more willing to take on bigger jobs in some of your bigger ships or accompany you on the odd mission outside the role of pilot, or maybe if they have other jobs lined up they might cancel one with a player they don't like as much and come to work for you instead?

An asset whisperer! Chris should hire him immediately.

DigitalPenny
Sep 3, 2018

Chronojam posted:

This is particularly amusing

I love there faces watching the dream unravel on most of these

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

commando in tophat posted:

Thanks, my english was permanently damaged by this

Most of what was said was a mute point anyways.

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.

I was wondering who could be this much of a lunatic and then I got to the end.
Of course, it's the wine glass guy.

A man so wrapped up in his report-writing nerdery that he can't even conceive of the simplest explanation for why there would be 2 wine glasses in a bedroom.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Fidelitious posted:

I was wondering who could be this much of a lunatic and then I got to the end.
Of course, it's the wine glass guy.

A man so wrapped up in his report-writing nerdery that he can't even conceive of the simplest explanation for why there would be 2 wine glasses in a bedroom.

Does the 600i have a kitchen sink to wash the glasses in? Or do you slosh them about in the toilet like an animal?

Jonny Shiloh
Mar 7, 2019
You 'orrible little man

Golli posted:

Does the 600i have a kitchen sink to wash the glasses in? Or do you slosh them about in the toilet like an animal?

Don't be a space pleb. The staff take the glasses and do something with them, you're not sure what but nor do you care - as far as you're concerned it should just happen like magic.

I wouldn't mind being staff working for a financially impressive commando, I've always fancied serving up Mr Winner's soup* and I can't think of anyone more deserving than your typical high rollin' Citizen of the Star.

*https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Winners%20Soup as I can't figure out how to make a link seemingly.

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.


"it only makes sense that the financier gets to be captain!" is the most worm-brained capitalist take i've ever seen

Slow_Moe
Feb 18, 2013

Muscle Tracer posted:

"it only makes sense that the financier gets to be captain!" is the most worm-brained capitalist take i've ever seen

Translated: "I paid to win, I should win"

commando in tophat
Sep 5, 2019

Jonny Shiloh posted:

Don't be a space pleb. The staff take the glasses and do something with them, you're not sure what but nor do you care - as far as you're concerned it should just happen like magic.

I wouldn't mind being staff working for a financially impressive commando, I've always fancied serving up Mr Winner's soup* and I can't think of anyone more deserving than your typical high rollin' Citizen of the Star.

*https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Winners%20Soup as I can't figure out how to make a link seemingly.

Finally I see the appeal in cooking gameplay.
1) get employed as cook on idris by pay to win commando
2) poison the entire crew
3) drive the idris into the sun
In reality you would clip through the space stove and an idris would explode

downout
Jul 6, 2009

Pixelate posted:

More green door trauma and delirious dysfunction

https://i.imgur.com/Ybpj0SH.mp4

:eyepop:

o7

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

BigglesSWE posted:

This reminds me of that documentary that came with the 2004 Star Wars DVD box, wherein Mark Hanukkah tells a story about how the studio men was worried when they were making the first film, that Chewbacca had no clothes on or as Hamill put it: “of all the things to worry about : The Wookiee has no pants.”

Phone decided that Hamill the first time was to be Hanukkah and who am I to judge?

I... don't understand half of this post :staredog:

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Mirificus posted:

With Star Citizen I see a certain group of people constantly bash the game for being almost devoid of game loops etc,

Heh, this is a favorite of the faithful. Making it seem like it is a small, statistically insignificant segment constantly hopping from site to site bad mouthing SC.

Strange that it is the majority of posts on CIG's website, hmmm, maybe the certain group has bought thousands of accounts just so they can bad mouth on the Spectrum, this conspiracy of the few knows no bounds!

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

quote:

If you want to go mining then it's probably going to be a good idea to get a couple of buddies to come along in a Cutlass Red, that way you have more storage, more people mining and can go an heal regularly. Or if you want to go all out you could bring along an Apollo Triage. That way if you and all the people working for/with you get injured at the same time there are plenty of treatment beds and storage for extra medical equipment and supplies.

I'd probably bring enough people along so that there would be at least one qualified medic and one nurse always aboard the Apollo so that the nurse can meet and greet injured people coming aboard, they would then assess the need level of the patient. Then you could have the 6 beds in order of almost fine to critical. So for example, lets say me and 6 buddies want to mine we would probably bring a small gang fleet like a Cutlass Black, Freelancer MAX and then hire a couple other players to come along in an Apollo. We would obviously also need a scout in a fast single seater ship that would have the job of keep an eye out for enemy ships and also looking for the next mine.

Although now interdiction ships are going to be common as poo poo it might be an idea to have a escort ship like a Hammerhead along. That way he can be with the ship taking the ore to sell. So it'll take about 15 people which may not make the profit worth wasting time on. So maybe not a Hammerhead, I think just another Cutlass Black as 2 of them together with 4 crew (2 per ship) can kill an interdiction ship and also carry a decent amount of cargo and bring back medical supplies, food, drinks and ammo etc.

Personally I hate mining, so I'd be aboard the Apollo overseeing everything, deciding who does the mining, keeping a list of who is getting injured the most frequently and how much ore they are mining as well as over seeing logistics and helping out with triage in the event of multiple casualties. Any miners that are getting injured too often will be given training by the best miner but if they don;t get much better then they go home with the next cargo load and we try a new hire out. Those that are very efficient will be given better meals and I might invite the top ones after work to my cabin for some rare and exotic food and drinks as a reward for their hard work and to ensure they want to remain a member of my crew.

If we ever a find a planet with abundant mines I will probably bring a bigger ship such as a Constellation Andromeda to command my staff from, that way I could bring more supplies and miners. It's got a decent number of beds, lockers and a toilet etc to keep the workers happy. With it having a Snub fighter it means that the scout ship will have an escort to help keep it safe it can also run messages back and forth in the even of some sort of EMP event that temporarily knock out radio communications. The only down side is the size of the food prep and eating area but I'd just have to work out a shift timetable to make sure it never gets too crowded.

I suppose if there is enough interest in these mining expeditions then I could bring one luxury ship with more beds, a big kitchen and mess hall and area for the crew to R&R. That way after a herd days work they can get the nutrition and rest that will help keep them strong and capable of staying on top of their game. Plus if I could put things like gambling machines and Black Jack tables etc on board I could recuperate some of the money they get paid from them losing at gambling. Could even have a tier system of food, so the top miners get access to quality food and drinks where as the worse miners get basic supplies but can purchase better food if they should choose so. They could also upgrade to more luxury sleeping quarters.

Anyway, all of this would be temporary until the Endeavor ship comes out, I will of course be using this as my Command Ship to lead a fleet doing much more than just mining. But I don't want to ramble on about that here unless you do want to hear how I think things will turn out with that.

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.


after my videogame staff put in a long day of work in the videogame mines, they might want a dedicated ship so that they can have a little rest and relaxation, maybe with a Pac-Man cabinet or something like that, so they have a videogame to play to distract them from the videogame they are working in.

Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001


They're like kids looking at a toy catalog, but with access to tens of thousands of dollars. :psyduck:

Slow_Moe
Feb 18, 2013


This guy's ideal gameplay is sitting and watching others play.


Star Middle Manager.

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Mirificus posted:

Personally I hate rear end mining, so I'd be aboard the Apollo overseeing everything, deciding who does the masturbating, keeping a list of who is getting injured the most frequently and how many rock penises they are making as well as over seeing porn downloads and helping out with triage in the event of multiple penis burns. Any masturbaters that are getting injured too often will be given training by the best masturbater but if they don't get much better then they go home with the next cum load and we try a new hire out. Those that are very efficient will be given better porn and I might invite the top ones after work to my cabin for some rare and exotic circle jerks as a reward for their hard work and to ensure they want to remain a member of my crew.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?
Nobody is going to pay money for a game where their primary experience will be working for other people, much less the mentally ill. I see a lot of empty chariots in the future.

(LOL I see no chariots in the future.)

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

no_recall posted:

Valve technically said they got bored of getting money by spitting out clones with extended storylines and wanted to instead make new and innovative gameplay. That's the reason HL2 episodes were dropped.

hmm yes yes that's why they didn't make L4D3 and HL3 but instead spent their effort on things like DOTA2, CS:GO, and Artifact

because of the innovation

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





That is more insane than the stimpire. That is a level of delusion beyond what I can comprehend. How can this person think *any* of this is going to happen, especially from a game company that can’t make an elevator work properly?

BumbleOne
Jul 1, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

DigitalPenny posted:

I'm freinds with a bloke who runs a massive tug ship. They had to tow one of our busted navy ships to the other side of australia, and the navy instested on having a bridge crew to help pilot his tug. They would normally operate with a cew of two, they navy provided a further 12 people to operate the bridge.

Now when missles are flying i can understand you dont want any dealy doing small tasks, but when a job which only takes 2 people is split between 14 people its boaring as hell. Lets not forget that when everything is working on ship driving in straight line in the ocean is boring even for two people.

cool story, sadly what i see daily in my job is too many people operating the same buttons.
which does not make my job boring (i wish it was) but usually ends in total chaos.
my glorious company repeats this each and every day.
if my company steered a ship we would ram the first obstacle in harbour and sink.

BumbleOne fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Nov 3, 2020

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010


I'm the junior medic spending all my time on Star Citizen bandaging cuts and unloading boxes

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

This guy can't be for real. This is a long form troll, right? It reads like a parody of the citizen mindset.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Muscle Tracer posted:

"it only makes sense that the financier gets to be captain!" is the most worm-brained capitalist take i've ever seen

quote:

There needs to be enough players with entry level ships so that they see it as a positive and privilege to be invited to work on my larger ship and become part of my crew. Their reward (apart from wages) will be to explore and adventure in places they would never survive solo. All in all it's a win win situation to own and crew a larger ship which will then be part of a fleet.

marumaru
May 20, 2013




this poo poo reads like satire. please link

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Colostomy Bag posted:

Most of what was said was a mute point anyways.

Icy what you did there you sun of a bitch

WaltherFeng
May 15, 2013

50 thousand people used to live here. Now, it's the Mushroom Kingdom.
So what happens when you crash your 1000 dollar ship? Obviously in a space sim that ship should be gone forever but that would make whales mad so it's never gonna happen

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

WaltherFeng posted:

So what happens when you crash your 1000 dollar ship? Obviously in a space sim that ship should be gone forever but that would make whales mad so it's never gonna happen

That's why they sold them with "Insurance!" If you crash, they will be replaced- and because you bought in early, your ship gets covered forever- people who come later might only get six months, or even no insurance at all- if they crash their 1000 dollar ship will be gone forever!

(None of this was implemented- you just get your ship back automatically. But it's still treated as a selling point for idiot whales.)

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Inacio posted:

this poo poo reads like satire. please link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r_oxhuONII&lc=UgzQkBC8i9aZgXylzcZ4AaABAg

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Sarsapariller posted:

That's why they sold them with "Insurance!" If you crash, they will be replaced- and because you bought in early, your ship gets covered forever- people who come later might only get six months, or even no insurance at all- if they crash their 1000 dollar ship will be gone forever!

(None of this was implemented- you just get your ship back automatically. But it's still treated as a selling point for idiot whales.)

Didn't they build out a whole dreams.txt for insurance. Where after the loss, the components would have to be built by the super AI NPC simulation based on supply and demand. So insurance could help but there would always be a lag time while the ship was actually being built because FIDELITY.

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WaltherFeng
May 15, 2013

50 thousand people used to live here. Now, it's the Mushroom Kingdom.
Thats not how insurance works.

I am an insurance agent.

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