|
Much as this brings back fond memories of my VIC-20, I'm just as happy with the little Pi 4 box I bought a few months ago. Now I just wish I could find a cheap little monitor to make it easier to tinker with.
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2020 15:51
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 10:50 |
|
|
Craigslist? Has hdmi been around long enough that compatible devices are being given away? There are plenty of free monitors out there, but it's occuring to me a lot of them might be vga only.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2020 16:20
|
|
|
Me: Ima do a Pi project Also me: where the ever loving hell is a micro to SD adapter? I have at least 20 Also also me: Finds a pi4 I forgot I even had
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2020 16:33
|
|
|
Some Goon posted:Craigslist? Has hdmi been around long enough that compatible devices are being given away? There are plenty of free monitors out there, but it's occuring to me a lot of them might be vga only. Not in my area, at least.  It's not an enormous problem, but frustrating that only my primary has modern connectors. My two secondaries are old enough that they've got DVI and VGA connectors on the back, and connecting micro-HDMI to VGA turns into a bucket of spaghetti.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2020 16:57
|
|
|
You go Micro-HDMI -> HDMI -> DVI.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2020 17:13
|
|
|
Bieeanshee posted:Not in my area, at least. Tell you what, I've got a 19" 720p tv a friend gave to me years ago for this exact purpose that I've never done anything with, you can have it for the cost of shipping (~10lbs) if you want. As mentioned above, HDMI to DVI is a passive adaptor so that's not a bad route.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2020 17:21
|
|
|
Ha! This made me think of the fact that I have an ancient 19” monitor that’s takes vga and dvi I’ve been using a spare active hdmi -> vga converter... but I have a bunch of those hdmi to dvi adaptors lying around! I also have the dvi -> vga adapters you used to get with graphics cards, but I suspect that doesn’t work, right? The graphics card had to be doing something special to make those work
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2020 21:54
|
|
|
DVI-VGA adapters only work with DVI-A or DVI-I ports that have analog pins. The more common (now at least) DVI-D only supports digital output. If the adapter and port were made properly, I don’t think you can even plug a DVI-A/I cable into a DVI-D port.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2020 22:01
|
|
|
Just buy a micro-HDMI to DVI cable.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2020 22:28
|
|
|
Jeff Fatwood posted:I basically ordered one immediately yesterday when I saw a video of it pop up on my screen. It's like it was tailor made just for me. Seems to come with all the stuff that I wished for in 2015 the last time I tried the RPi2. Still very First preorder batch al;ready sold out on one of the sites in Aus. Shame it's 4GB. But it's a keyboard based computer and has an exposed header just like so many computers of the 80's and early 90's that I love. I'm so on the fence. e: They missed a trick with it. Making the GPIO port keyed. I mean the 40 pin header they use is, but they could have done something asymmetrical with the case. Either way it gave me the great idea of expansion cartridges. General_Failure fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Nov 4, 2020 |
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2020 06:52
|
|
about it.
|
Lazyhound posted:Is the 4 actually fast enough for desktop use? Trying to do anything GUI-based on my 3B is like pulling teeth. Yeah I use one as a linux desktop/home entertainment system and it works fine. Hardest part was getting steaming services with all their lovely drm to work on chromium but that wasn't too difficult.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2020 13:36
|
|
|
Whelp, looks like everywhere in the us is either sold out or wants $10-15 shipping; can't get free shipping from sparkfun since it's a pre-order. Might as well line up with the GPU hunters outside of microcenter at that point, though they're only selling the full kit.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2020 17:32
|
|
|
The regular board + keyboard is fine too. IMHO the built in keyboard is a neat gimmick and nostalgic, but 99% of the time a pi is more easily used by setting up SSH and throwing it in a closet or drawer.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2020 18:11
|
|
|
Slightly less portable and you run into that thing where the pi weighs less than all the things attached to it and twists around oddly from the cables, though with the pi4 needing cooling of some sort that might not be an issue anymore. I've got a pi"nas" set up for sshing but that takes another computer to interface with, and the only practical use I have for a pi 4 is to replace the machine I use to pay my bills, since trying to interact with webforms on a 55" tv sucks. Really though it was just going to be an impulse purchase, I think it would be cool to get it set up with no DE and try to operate everything with just a keyboard, or trivially swap out boot drives. If it wasn't for that dang micro-hdmi port you'd only need the power supply with it since hdmi displays are everywhere.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2020 18:31
|
|
|
Wow is there no internal hard drive / SSD spot for the Pi 400? That's a huge ommission. I'm using a pi 4 as a desktop now and it is almost unusable with microSD for the OS drive. Get it on a cheap USB drive SSD and it's great. So factor that into the clunkiness of the 400 + USB drive.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2020 18:44
|
|
|
SpaceSDoorGunner posted:Hardest part was getting steaming services with all their lovely drm to work on chromium but that wasn't too difficult.  Speaking of which, I fixed the UI lag in Kodi by adding "usbhid.mousepoll=0" to /boot/cmdline.txt - the latest version switches to a terminal before launching and the terminal was apparently bad at reading the usb ports.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2020 01:08
|
|
|
mod sassinator posted:Wow is there no internal hard drive / SSD spot for the Pi 400? That's a huge ommission. I'm using a pi 4 as a desktop now and it is almost unusable with microSD for the OS drive. Get it on a cheap USB drive SSD and it's great. So factor that into the clunkiness of the 400 + USB drive. Looking up storage benchmarks was on the to-do list and oof, though I don't think it would matter much for my use case. Still, depending on how much space is inside it I saw someone propose drilling out the kensington lock and running the cable through there, which could be an answer.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2020 01:16
|
|
|
Some Goon posted:Looking up storage benchmarks was on the to-do list and oof, though I don't think it would matter much for my use case. Still, depending on how much space is inside it I saw someone propose drilling out the kensington lock and running the cable through there, which could be an answer. yeah i bet a m.2 ssd or nvme drive might be able to be jammed inside the case somewhere. you'd have some bulk for the usb converter but it might be possible
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2020 01:27
|
|
|
General_Failure posted:First preorder batch al;ready sold out on one of the sites in Aus. Shame it's 4GB. But it's a keyboard based computer and has an exposed header just like so many computers of the 80's and early 90's that I love. I'm so on the fence. They also forgot to add the 3.5mm jack on it which I only noticed yesterday so lol. Either have to use a TV, display with speakers/speaker out or bluetooth speakers. It's not the biggest deal but god drat it 
Jeff Fatwood fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Nov 5, 2020 |
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2020 14:07
|
|
|
Jeff Fatwood posted:They also forgot to add the 3.5mm jack on it which I only noticed yesterday so lol. Either have to use a TV, display with speakers/speaker or bluetooth speakers. It's not the biggest deal but god drat it Following Apple's lead, nice.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2020 14:12
|
|
|
Jeff Fatwood posted:They also forgot to add the 3.5mm jack on it which I only noticed yesterday so lol. Either have to use a TV, display with speakers/speaker out or bluetooth speakers. It's not the biggest deal but god drat it A basic USB DAC would also do the trick if you have a spare port Something like https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-External-Adapter-Aluminum-Desktops/dp/B087T5H3MQ
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2020 14:22
|
|
|
repiv posted:A basic USB DAC would also do the trick if you have a spare port I'm more annoyed that the whole shtick with RPi has been about having options to do whatever and adding more hurdles just feels counter to that. But then again, micro hdmi and all that, they have to compromise somewhere. Still I'd rather have a fast Pi400 with all the fast IO, cooling and no 3.5mm than the Pi2 with 3.5mm and no USB 3.0  Or a Pi4 with a million things dangling off of it and all the extra things I'd have to buy anyway.In conclusion, still very stoked.  Finally getting a loving retro Linux box inside a keyboard.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2020 14:48
|
|
|
The Pi has always been about hyper-optimizing price by cutting out as many things as possible that would only be used by some-people, and all those special cases can use adapters anyway. Every few cents per unit they can shave off of a $35 product that they're trying to min/max to the extreme really matters. Edit: Come to think of it, it might be better to think of the Pi as a cheap relatively powerful core to a very modular system
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2020 18:25
|
|
|
Wasn't the audio quality out of the 3.5 jack notably terrible on the pi anyways?
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2020 18:26
|
|
|
Some Goon posted:Wasn't the audio quality out of the 3.5 jack notably terrible on the pi anyways? It was lukewarm dogshit, abysmal quality and RFI out the wazoo
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2020 18:28
|
|
|
Some Goon posted:Wasn't the audio quality out of the 3.5 jack notably terrible on the pi anyways?
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2020 12:23
|
|
|
Slightly off topic but I've got an odd problem with my vnc connection to my pi. It is pretty much perfect from 1 of my laptops and my phone connecting over wifi (the pi is wired to the router) my other main laptop wired connection is so slow for the vnc connection as to be absolutely useless. Anyone come across this before?
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2020 14:18
|
|
|
Some Goon posted:Tell you what, I've got a 19" 720p tv a friend gave to me years ago for this exact purpose that I've never done anything with, you can have it for the cost of shipping (~10lbs) if you want. I really appreciate the offer, but I'm international and the cost of shipping would probably be exorbitant. I'll keep an eye on the marketplace listings. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2020 16:51
|
|
|
evil_bunnY posted:PWM garbo but i2c to a codec hat fixes that if you care. i2s, and yes. But that consumes the GPIO port, unless you do some fiddling. I've got a PiFi Dac+ (HiFiberry clone,mostly) on my Pi4. Was on my Pi3. No background noise. Really nice sound quality. I soldered an RTC to it because I always use one. On a Pi Zero I was using a PCM5022(?) board. One of those little ones for a few $ from China. They work surprisingly well... assuming they are connected properly. *cough*. I designed and printed a case for a zero, 3 port USB / ethernet hub, SSD1506 OLED and DAC board, which made things a little nicer.
|
|
#
?
Nov 9, 2020 03:09
|
|
|
Wonder what the most critical thing in production in the world there is right now that's dependent on the continued functionality of a specific Raspberry Pi
|
|
#
?
Nov 9, 2020 21:28
|
|
|
my seed box
|
|
#
?
Nov 9, 2020 22:12
|
|
Associate Christ
|
i got a raspberry pi 400 and it doesnt loving work, lol When I try to boot RPI OS the led comes on, blinks really quickly and then stays on for a few seconds, and goes off. Nothing else happens, and there's no video output. Even if I take the SD card and everything else out, it does the same thing, 1 quick blink and then on for a few seconds before going off. I tried putting the EEPROM on a card and doing that and then the LED does 2 long flashes and 4 short which apparently means "File signature/hash mismatch" and the HDMI output will either be a screen with red columns or a full red screen, but that's the only video output I can get. I can't get any messages over UART either, but it seems like the OS has to start booting for the messages to start so idk if i'm supposed to be getting any anyway. I got the latest boot files from the github, tried different SD cards, different power supplies, etc but nothing works and this things hosed anyone have any ideas as to what I should do here or is it just "get a replacement lol"
|
|
#
?
Nov 10, 2020 07:40
|
|
|
Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:i got a raspberry pi 400 and it doesnt loving work, lol I assume you tried NOOBS? EDIT: Ah, probably not updated yet, only the Foundation Raspbian works thus far (I think). Pi Hut has a "try these" list.
|
|
#
?
Nov 10, 2020 07:50
|
|
|
endlessmonotony posted:I assume you tried NOOBS? I tried Raspbian/Raspberry Pi OS or whatever it's called, and I also tried Ubuntu which says it supports the 400. No luck
|
|
#
?
Nov 10, 2020 07:56
|
|
|
Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:I tried Raspbian/Raspberry Pi OS or whatever it's called, and I also tried Ubuntu which says it supports the 400. No luck There's always the "duh" option. That thing has two display connectors. Got the correct one? EDIT: Also the OS needs to be the right OS because there's downloads on the Raspbian site and the Raspberry Pi site. No it doesn't make sense. Yes the foundation has been called out on this poo poo approx 50 million times. endlessmonotony fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Nov 10, 2020 |
|
#
?
Nov 10, 2020 08:04
|
|
|
Are there any good walk throughs on how to get bluetooth audio working through a pi4? I can connect to the device, its selected as the audio output, but I just never get any sound out of it, other than the connection confirmation beep.
|
|
#
?
Nov 10, 2020 08:15
|
|
|
NPR Journalizard posted:Are there any good walk throughs on how to get bluetooth audio working through a pi4? I can connect to the device, its selected as the audio output, but I just never get any sound out of it, other than the connection confirmation beep. How many goats do you have ready to sacrifice?
|
|
#
?
Nov 10, 2020 08:16
|
|
|
endlessmonotony posted:How many goats do you have ready to sacrifice? Ahh crap, is it that bad, huh
|
|
#
?
Nov 10, 2020 08:26
|
|
|
I'm going to wait a while, if I do end up getting one I think.
|
|
#
?
Nov 10, 2020 08:44
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 10:50 |
|
|
endlessmonotony posted:How many goats do you have ready to sacrifice? Wait, so the only way to get audio for the 400 is literally through HDMI or USB and bluetooth is not going to work at least without blood sacrifice? Nice.
|
|
#
?
Nov 10, 2020 08:55
|
|