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LibCrusher
Jan 6, 2019

by Fluffdaddy
Seoul is incredible. South Korea is definitely in 2035 already

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Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

KEF is a really nice airport, but ATL has the best food.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

What is the pilot opinion of DTW? As a passenger I really liked the simplicity of "get on the train where you are, get off the train where you need to, it's just a big long stick unless you need to take the Wonka Helltube to the other long stick"

It's like the place was designed by assembly line engineers or something

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Nov 3, 2020

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

meltie posted:

Good carpet too.

Better than MIA which has assholes all over the place.

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous

shame on an IGA posted:

What is the pilot opinion of DTW? As a passenger I really liked the simplicity of "get on the train where you are, get off the train where you need to, it's just a big long stick unless you need to take the Wonka Helltube to the other long stick"

It's like the place was designed by assembly line engineers or something

I like DTW, it's clean and fresh, food is fair, and I like the Wonka helltube. It helps me isolate my mind for 3 or 4 minutes while I'm inbetween a bunch of other stresses. And I like the Illy at the top of it, people think it's overpriced fru fru bullshit but they make a good latte (I used to drink their cappucinos but they started making them a bit too harsh) and the sitting area is a nice place to stare out the window at the outside world while drinking my coffee, and enjoy a moment. It was even better when there were some fake trees there which attracted real birds.

I guess you can call it... aeronautical sanity.

vessbot fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Nov 3, 2020

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
LHR sucks incredibly hard but LGW is fine.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


CPH is nice. Only big issue is the main hall where the public transport connections spill into. That tends to get overcrowded. Otherwise it has good food etc. Had to fly into Madison a few times and that is a nice regional airport. Gatwick is a perfectly fine airport, as are Stanstead and Luton (though the bus connection to it from the train is a pain). One thing that has to be said for basically all European airports is that they at least have strong connections to the public transport systems. Unlike many airports in the US. *gives a strong side-eye to La Guardia*

Tegel is annoying because the gates are tied to the check-ins and there is bugger all once you are waiting for your flight in the tiny gate area. Schönefeld I quite like because once you know it's quirks you can get through security and to your gate in pretty drat quick minimizing the time you actually need to be there.

BobHoward posted:

See also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxvoDbZpoY8

for some really cool explanations of aerodynamic principles by the same guy, Mike Arnold, as he talks about why the AR-5 he designed and built is so fast (for its weight class).

Cool. Going to have a look at that.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



BIG HEADLINE posted:

With the exception of *that one gate*, DCA is actually a really good airport for ~passenger experience~......it's just a terrible airport for pilots.

lmao what, that shithole is overcrowded as gently caress.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009
DCA makes me thankful for lounge access.

FunOne
Aug 20, 2000
I am a slimey vat of concentrated stupidity

Fun Shoe
Are you people not making connections? CLT and DTW as good airports?!

Your connection in DTW is always from not-near-the-train to the other side of not-near-the-train or the other side of the tube. CLT your plane is pulling up to the end of the pier, you need to go to the center food court, through the 5" gap we built to attach the loving regional jet pier, then to the rear end end of that to catch your plane.

DFW may be huge, but at least the gates are almost all equi-distant from each other, with the exception of the TWO lovely RJ piers they now have.

And apparently, by law, if your airport is designed with a bottlenecked pier design, the two gates closest to the center train/walkway/whatever are boarding at the same time.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
SEA food options awful, DCA insanely overcrowded, connections at DFW are hell, yes, yes, all this makes sense....

Safety Dance posted:

but ATL has the best food.

It's been a few years since I last flew through there, but ... Where?

I remember looking at a map of that place and realizing I'd have to go three or four terminals over to get to something that wasn't bad, and it was a miserably short layover so that got fixed in my memory as being a real low point of the trip :v:

Psion fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Nov 3, 2020

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Budapest has a bar in the smoking area. Takes it from shittiest airport ever to top 5.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

Psion posted:

SEA food options awful, DCA insanely overcrowded, connections at DFW are hell, yes, yes, all this makes sense....


It's been a few years since I last flew through there, but ... Where?

I remember looking at a map of that place and realizing I'd have to go three or four terminals over to get to something that wasn't bad, and it was a miserably short layover so that got fixed in my memory as being a real low point of the trip :v:

I was going to say. One flew South was good, but not super crazy. Chicken and Beer I appreciate but also was ok at best.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

InAndOutBrennan posted:

Budapest has a bar in the smoking area. Takes it from shittiest airport ever to top 5.

I miss being able to sit at bars and drink.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

dupersaurus posted:

Kona (PHKO) is also adorable af

Adorable maybe, but absolutely gently caress all for services. If you don't have lounge access, you ain't getting AC and even then, the "lounge" is basically a room with a coffee machine.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Psion posted:

SEA food options awful, DCA insanely overcrowded, connections at DFW are hell, yes, yes, all this makes sense....


It's been a few years since I last flew through there, but ... Where?

I remember looking at a map of that place and realizing I'd have to go three or four terminals over to get to something that wasn't bad, and it was a miserably short layover so that got fixed in my memory as being a real low point of the trip :v:

Don't schedule short layovers. Don't judge an airport's food by the sandwich you grabbed at Hudson News in between legs of an All-Spirit extravaganza.

https://atlanta.eater.com/2014/11/20/7254811/atlanta-airport-dining-hartsfield-jackson-international

If you have time for a meal and it's mealtime, I can't speak highly enough of One Flew South. Realistically, any of the top nine on the list are worth a brief detour for. Hell, even the last time I was flying through ATL, it was a really weird time and not much was open but there was a 5 Guys, and god bless it they made me a grilled cheese + tomato.


Edit: I've heard Gdansk is supposed to have a really lovely airport, but unfortunately I flew in and out of Warsaw on that trip.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


InAndOutBrennan posted:

Budapest has a bar in the smoking area. Takes it from shittiest airport ever to top 5.

I was always amused by the glass smoking cabinets in Vienna, and Prague iirc.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Safety Dance posted:

Don't schedule short layovers. Don't judge an airport's food by the sandwich you grabbed at Hudson News in between legs of an All-Spirit extravaganza.

please take your assumptions and this attitude and throw it in the trash can, but thank you for actually posting something useful afterwards, which I do appreciate.

though I do find it amusing this list starts with one flew south and then puts popeye's, shake shack, and krispy kreme on it at the end. I think that's some quintessential airports.txt right there

Psion fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Nov 3, 2020

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


Munin posted:

I was always amused by the glass smoking cabinets in Vienna, and Prague iirc.

SLC used to have those cool smoking rooms.

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Phanatic posted:

Whose airports don't suck? LHR sucks. FRA sucks. DEL sucks. GIG sucks.

All the main Japanese ones, Kansai, Narita, Haneda.
YVR, Sydney, Hong Kong, Zurich, new one in Istanbul. Incheon. New terminal in LHR isn't half bad either.

The US ones mostly resembles bus terminals.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
You haven't lived until you've spent a few hours waiting on a flight at MCI.

Their wifi blocks something awful too. Reddit and its mountains of child porn are alright of course.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005
In addition to the food, SEA just sucks at being an airport in general.

Before the pandemic, a good day (winds out of the south, no clouds or rain) would mean you only got 15-20 minutes of flow delays if you were flying from anywhere in Washington or Oregon, and coming from elsewhere, you'd start getting slowed down or turned 2-300 miles away.

If there was weather and the winds were out of the north, the flow delays could easily hit the hour mark, and trying to get out was also a disaster, since they have to stop departures at SEA for IFR traffic at Boeing Field.

Once you're on the ground, the two biggest airlines at SEA (Alaska and Delta) both had more arrivals scheduled than physical gates at several times during the day, so waiting for gates was extremely common, and the lack of taxiways at SEA meant they often used the center runway as a holding area, or had airplanes circle the terminals until a gate opens.

If you came in on an international flight, the south satellite terminal is dirty, falling apart, massively overcrowded, and has customs people who absolutely loving hate everyone.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Psion posted:

please take your assumptions and this attitude and throw it in the trash can,

Ah, sorry about that. I was trying for good-natured ribbing, but I guess that didn't come through.

Dr_Strangelove
Dec 16, 2003

Mein Fuhrer! THEY WON!

DAL is small and pretty drat tolerable. Also, Whataburger.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Safety Dance posted:

KEF is a really nice airport, but ATL has the best food.

ATL is super well laid out, and it's insanely easy to make connections through, I used to add 45 minutes on my flights to SEA from the East Coast so I could stop at ATL, be at my connection in 15 minutes, relax at a bar and have a smoke.





beep-beep car is go posted:

I like ALB because it has an observation deck that's before security so you can just walk in and watch the planes land and take off. My kid loved it.

ALB is one of my favorite airports, cheap, secure, State-run parking, with quick and reliable shuttle service, an observation deck so I can watch the flight I just missed take off, security is never over 15mins, and they have a Swagelock display in the terminal that provides hours of entertainment looking at small metal pipe fittings.

Actually all the NE regionals I've flown through are pretty good, Providence and Hartford are pretty convenient too, it always just sucked for me because I couldn't get a straight flight to SEA.

SEA is awful, almost every flight I've ever taken has arrived or departed there, last time I left I grabbed a sandwich and a bag of chips for $20, I was mad even though the Gov't was picking up the bill.

At least they have Beechers, if you have 30 minutes to wait in line.

Love flying in to a satellite terminal and spending 30 minutes in a cattle-like heard trying to get on the tram to the main terminal.




Also, every American airport, including shitholes like JFK, SEA and IAD are way loving better than Heathrow. How the gently caress do you have a 45 minute bus ride inside an airport? Why can't I go outside when I miss my connecting flight, because customs, the bus ride between terminals, and the bus ride to the remote piece of Tarmac my plane's sitting on, that's apparently in Scotland or some poo poo, totals more than my 4 hour layover?

Man I hate Heathrow.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

ATL is possibly the best airport in the world for ill advised connections.

I really like that book cafe place with a giant alcoholic drinks menu.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

Munin posted:

I was always amused by the glass smoking cabinets in Vienna, and Prague iirc.

Well in this case the smoking area is outside but it's ok cause the bar part is covered by clear tarp. And you are served by very not engaged typically hungarian service ppl. But I'm not complaining.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Safety Dance posted:

Ah, sorry about that. I was trying for good-natured ribbing, but I guess that didn't come through.

It didn't read that way to me but I admit I'm a little stressed today, so thanks for clarifying :hfive:

It was holiday-adjacent travel so not peak insanity, but close enough that I had to take the flights that I had, so to speak -- and of course nothing was running on time or delayed in my favor. Hopefully at least half that list is still there next time I pass through ATL, which is looking like years away, but hey. Just like I hope Mesa Verde is still there next time I pass through Denver.

actually that reminds me - a good US airport? Indianapolis. Fairly new terminal, plenty of spare capacity so it's wide open and everything goes pretty smoothly, lots of windows, room to sit, reasonable (It's Indianapolis, grade on a curve) food options, and I can't imagine ever making a connection there but if you had to it'd be easy enough.

Psion fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Nov 4, 2020

Salami Surgeon
Jan 21, 2001

Don't close. Don't close.


Nap Ghost
I've been through CLT so many times that I don't even notice having to hoof it to another zip code to make my connection anymore. Where's the Smashburger?

I've only been through 35X in DCA and am completely indifferent to it now.

Air travel has broken me.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

even tortas fronteras cannot elevate ORD sufficiently



Phanatic posted:

Better than MIA which has assholes all over the place.



What does that have to do with the picture though :dadjoke:

Also best floor mosaic goes to CLE for the 55gal drum fire


shame on an IGA posted:

What is the pilot opinion of DTW? As a passenger I really liked the simplicity of "get on the train where you are, get off the train where you need to, it's just a big long stick unless you need to take the Wonka Helltube to the other long stick"

It's like the place was designed by assembly line engineers or something

It’s alright, I was based there for a while. Food options are meh outside of Popeyes.

e.pilot fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Nov 4, 2020

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

azflyboy posted:

If you came in on an international flight, the south satellite terminal is dirty, falling apart, massively overcrowded, and has customs people who absolutely loving hate everyone.

ohh yeah I've heard them yell at people for daring to hold a cell phone. I think anybody who works in customs should have an orientation that includes you being kept awake for 24 hours in a cramped and noisy airplane cabin and standing in lines for hours. Seriously my brain struggles to answer basic questions at that point.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Psion posted:

It didn't read that way to me but I admit I'm a little stressed today, so thanks for clarifying :hfive:

It was holiday-adjacent travel so not peak insanity, but close enough that I had to take the flights that I had, so to speak -- and of course nothing was running on time or delayed in my favor. Hopefully at least half that list is still there next time I pass through ATL, which is looking like years away, but hey. Just like I hope Mesa Verde is still there next time I pass through Denver.

actually that reminds me - a good US airport? Indianapolis. Fairly new terminal, plenty of spare capacity so it's wide open and everything goes pretty smoothly, lots of windows, room to sit, reasonable (It's Indianapolis, grade on a curve) food options, and I can't imagine ever making a connection there but if you had to it'd be easy enough.

Precovid Delta had an inexplicable flight to CDG so you could conceivably connect there.

It seemed like an airport that was built for way more traffic than it gets. Maybe it’s built to handle peak at the Indy 500 or something.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Charles posted:

ohh yeah I've heard them yell at people for daring to hold a cell phone. I think anybody who works in customs should have an orientation that includes you being kept awake for 24 hours in a cramped and noisy airplane cabin and standing in lines for hours. Seriously my brain struggles to answer basic questions at that point.

It’s like a crime or something, US border crossings have been extremely terrible (and fascist) for a very long time. Some other countries even have like WiFi and stuff in the customs line!

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit
e.pilots airport layover food guide:

DFW: 7-11, the one in the C gates, A gate 7-11 sucks (trust me on this I will literally take the train to the C gates if i have the time)
DTW: Popeyes
ATL: Bojangles
DEN: City Wok and a coffee from Dazbog, or Roasting Plant under the Westin if you go outside of security
MIA: lol
ORD: Skybridge
IAH: Whataburger
SFO: Klein’s
MSP: Holy Land
LAX: Not much other than Panda Express, sad. Top tip: if you have a couple hour layover go outside of security to the In-n-out under the 24s and watch planes land. 100% worth it if you’ve got the time and don’t mind a short walk.
PDX: The deli just on the other side of security has an overpriced PB&J in the morning that slaps way harder than it has any right
SEA: Not a goddamned thing
BWI: Nothing but sadness, they have a chickfila I guess? Better hope it’s not Sunday
SLC: Nothing, food wasteland, get Mcdonald’s or Dunkin’ or something
PHX: Nothing, get a frosty from Wendy’s and be sad
MDW: Not a goddamned thing, I hate this airport so much. Landing a heavy CRJ in there on a hot day was fun at least.

e.pilot fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Nov 4, 2020

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

My contribution: Salt Lake City is the most immaculate public facility I've ever seen.

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

Mr. Funny Pants posted:

My contribution: Salt Lake City is the most immaculate public facility I've ever seen.

Not naming the French Meadows Bakery in the airport the Mountain Meadows Bakery was really a missed opportunity.

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



Munin posted:

CPH is nice.

Big fat asterisk needed here - it's nice until you need to go from non-Schengen to Schengen (or v/v) and you hosed up by deciding to marry a non-EU national so you can't use the automatic passport gates and the lines are hellishly long. I think I saw a 45 min passport control wait one christmas. On top of that the danish passport police like to look at my Swedish passport and try to speak Danish to me, a language which is incomprehensible even to themselves.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

e.pilot posted:

It’s alright, I was based there for a while. Food options are meh outside of Popeyes.

bigalora is decent

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

e.pilot posted:

e.pilots airport layover food guide:

LAX: Not much other than Panda Express, sad. Top tip: if you have a couple hour layover go outside of security to the In-n-out under the 24s and watch planes land. 100% worth it if you’ve got the time and don’t mind a short walk.

If you *don't* have the time, Habit Burger and Wahoo's (they're literally right next to one another) in Terminal 6 is a good alternative.

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Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

LostCosmonaut posted:

Not naming the French Meadows Bakery in the airport the Mountain Meadows Bakery was really a missed opportunity.

Lol. I can't imagine why they didn't go with that.

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