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Deathlove posted:I'm pretty sure about this since he beat Roskam and Roskam trashed Ives, but gosh I haven't seen a single poll and while that generally means "why bother", I'm still sweating. The crew over at Cook political gets campaign internals shared all the time. They do not even have this race on their radar.
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brugroffil posted:The crew over at Cook political gets campaign internals shared all the time. They do not even have this race on their radar. He's technically not even my rep, but he might as well be since I'm gerrymandered into LaHood's conservative dumping district. (And I'm really disappointed because his dad was actually a pretty good secretary of transportation.)
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brugroffil posted:The crew over at Cook political gets campaign internals shared all the time. They do not even have this race on their radar. Yeah, I saw that House likely/lean/toss-up graphic the other day and was like ??? just put it in likely! just let me have that bit of solace.
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dwarf74 posted:drat I hope we can get rid of Davis finally. loving same, I want to live vicariously through my friends in Davis's district since I know LaHood is here to stay. My fun news for today is that my ballot, which I mailed in on October 1st, was never scanned as being received. My wife's was, which was mailed at the exact same time. Fortunately I was able to get them to cancel my mail ballot and allow me to go in person today. Line was about 10-15 minutes, nothing much but still longer than usual here in Bloomington.
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Aw man, I didn't realize the Greens had actually managed to put up a senate candidate. Now I feel bad for not doing the research to find out if they're notably better than Durbin. Also got confused when Kilbride's retention vote wasn't on my ballot, because I'm close enough to his district that I still got all the ads about it.
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It's early https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/illinois/ballot-measures/
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Digital Jedi posted:It's early Woof. I hope this turns around.
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It's been trending NO the past few times I looked at it
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Since I posted it NO has had the majority the whole time
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The only county with a majority Yes is Cook currently. Seems like the rest of the state is voting against their self-interest once again.
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LOL Davis vs Londrigan wasn't even close. WTF
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dwarf74 posted:LOL Davis vs Londrigan wasn't even close. WTF That's likely a screw up because Champaign County was reporting 100% on the county clerk website and local media took it as 100% of the votes but it was 100% of in person election day total. You'd think seeing 10K total votes for a county of 200K people would ring a few alarm bells but well... they don't grow the brightest downstate in local media.
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I had been sweating Casten earlier in the evening, but as more and more comes in it's looking better. Hopefully by the morning Ives will be back in hell whence she came. Really sucks about what looks like defeat for the progressive tax. Enjoy your across-the-board tax hike that we non-millionaires could have avoided, everybody! Great loving job as usual.
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Nov 4, 2020 06:15
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Yeah everybody's flat tax is going up next year. Good job poo poo brains.
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Blue state, red state, purple state, orange state, yellow state, doesn’t matter, it’s idiots all the way down.
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Looks like Bustos has pulled ahead in the 17th (R+4), but the 14th (R+1.8) still has that fuckhole Oberweis up by a few thousand votes. I want to see him keep on losing.
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Kibride got recalled? wtf does that mean (other than 'conservatives were way better at advertising in Illinois this year')
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Bird in a Blender posted:Madigan has to go. He’s not liked in most of the state, and Republicans are going to tie any Democrat they can to him. He's not going until he has a stroke or gets tired of wielding power, which will be never.
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FuturePastNow posted:Yeah everybody's flat tax is going up next year. Good job poo poo brains. But I voted for the uhhhh no tax change thingy!!!
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Monkey Fracas posted:But I voted for the uhhhh no tax change thingy!!! These hot takes are gonna be delicious, it will be a rare smile in 2021. edit - or thinking about it more I guess it might not enter people's attention until April 2022. xzzy fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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Is there any upside to the progressive tax defeat at all? I feel like everyone's taxes will get raised and people will just go "drat Dems!" and things will get worse.
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beejay posted:Is there any upside to the progressive tax defeat at all? I feel like everyone's taxes will get raised and people will just go "drat Dems!" and things will get worse. You feel correctly, thats what will happen
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dwarf74 posted:Kibride got recalled? 3-3 IL supreme court which needs to find an interim replacement before a new justice gets elected in '22. Be prepared for the republicans to draw this process out for as long as possible to deadlock as much as they can. e - Looks like Oberweis is still ahead. 
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beejay posted:Is there any upside to the progressive tax defeat at all? I feel like everyone's taxes will get raised and people will just go "drat Dems!" and things will get worse. What seems to have happened is that Trump motivated his base hardcore, and once again destroyed likely voter polling. That's the only reason Davis won down here, near as I can figure. It's what he's saying, at least, and I think he's right. Maybe indict Madigan already.
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Bird in a Blender posted:Madigan has to go. He’s not liked in most of the state, and Republicans are going to tie any Democrat they can to him. The dude ranked his own child’s political future just to hang on. He is a medieval king who kills his kids.
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I remember back when Pritzker got elected that he was talking about how, if they couldn't get the amendment through, he was going to look at implementing a bunch of tax credits in order to One Weird Trick his way to a graduated rate. Is that still on the table or nah? (Guessing this is also a scenario where Kilbride's recall becomes distressingly relevant.)
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Cattail Prophet posted:I remember back when Pritzker got elected that he was talking about how, if they couldn't get the amendment through, he was going to look at implementing a bunch of tax credits in order to One Weird Trick his way to a graduated rate. Is that still on the table or nah? (Guessing this is also a scenario where Kilbride's recall becomes distressingly relevant.) I was thinking about that earlier today. Basically you raise the tax rate to 30% and then introduce tax credits for those who make under X amount to make it close to what the progressive rates would be. There isn’t anything illegal to it just a pain in the rear end and there is the likelihood of a lot of poor getting inadvertently hosed by it.
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The "no on progressive tax rates" people put a shitload of ads out against the act, so I'm not surprised. Couldn't look at muh dang youtubes without seeing one.
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Both sides were flooding the state with ads, whatever personal info they have harvested on you is what determined which you saw. But I guess the vote no ads had a better message, "tax the rich" wasn't enough to pass it.
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I will be real depressed if Underwood loses. Seems like a genuinely good person that Dems should be building the party around. If she does lose, I hope she can get some kind of gig with the administration.
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Niwrad posted:I will be real depressed if Underwood loses. Seems like a genuinely good person that Dems should be building the party around. Especially because she would be replaced by perennial loser and Big Piece Of poo poo Ice Cream Man Jim Oberweis
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Some liberal I know (I only mention so you know they probably voted straight ticket D otherwise) posted a meme where it was like "When have we ever had a tax cut in Illinois?" this morning, I assume in celebration of the defeat and I have no words. Ya, they never cut your taxes because if they do then they have to cut everyone's. That's the point ya dingus!
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The Tribune article does say that the current vote totals for Underwood and Oberweis do NOT include mail-in ballots (via drop box on Election Day, received on Election Day, or late-arriving but postmarked by Election Day, or provisionally-cast ballots. So there's I guess potentially a chance, although I can't imagine that it's a great chance since these are probably far fewer than that. I don't know. https://www.chicagotribune.com/poli...bpxq-story.html
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HootTheOwl posted:Some liberal I know (I only mention so you know they probably voted straight ticket D otherwise) posted a meme where it was like "When have we ever had a tax cut in Illinois?" this morning, I assume in celebration of the defeat and I have no words. Ya, they never cut your taxes because if they do then they have to cut everyone's. That's the point ya dingus! We just had a tax cut a couple years ago.
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Sarcastro posted:The Tribune article does say that the current vote totals for Underwood and Oberweis do NOT include mail-in ballots (via drop box on Election Day, received on Election Day, or late-arriving but postmarked by Election Day, or provisionally-cast ballots. So there's I guess potentially a chance, although I can't imagine that it's a great chance since these are probably far fewer than that. I don't know. Does seem like a decent amount outstanding so crossing my fingers.
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