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The Gadfly posted:I thought they were moving to a smaller node with their upcoming tiger lake, but no, they are still on 14nm nodes in 2021 Yeah, Intel's 10nm production right now is limited to Ice Lake for mobile CPUs--Tiger Lake is still 14nm, despite being newer. On desktop, Rocket Lake is also still 14nm, and won't be replaced by 10nm Alder Lake until 2H2021 at the earliest.
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Suburban Dad posted:You can always return it. Be careful on this. I know Newegg does not allow returns on many (most?) processors. Suburban Dad posted:I'm running a 2500k at 4.3 and a 1070 GPU and some newer games are unplayable at 1440p (144hz, gsync) . I'll go from 100+fps to 2-3 second freezes randomly and tons of little stutters. Definitely looking forward to a CPU upgrade. Year after year I continue to be amazed at how many goons replace a Sandy Bridge cheap each cycle and yet we still have people using them.
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I will replace mine after electro migration finally kills it but it's taking longer than expected.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Be careful on this. I know Newegg does not allow returns on many (most?) processors. 2500K reporting in, it's gone through... 4? GPUs over the years.
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Twerk from Home posted:2500K reporting in, it's gone through... 4? GPUs over the years. Only 3 for me. 4 if I could find a 3080.  ... And 2nd PSU, another case, went from 8 to 16gb ram, 1 1080p/60 monitor to 3x1080p/60 monitors, to a 1440p/144 replacing the main screen, and a few hard drives and two ssds (first a 250 then a 1tb when prices came down) later, here I am. Been a crazy long life span that's lasted a couple build cycles. BeastOfExmoor posted:Be careful on this. I know Newegg does not allow returns on many (most?) processors. Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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Newegg isn’t what it used to be. They look for any way to screw you over these days.
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DrDork posted:Yeah, Intel's 10nm production right now is limited to Ice Lake for mobile CPUs--Tiger Lake is still 14nm, despite being newer. On desktop, Rocket Lake is also still 14nm, and won't be replaced by 10nm Alder Lake until 2H2021 at the earliest. Tiger lake is 10nm SF, not 14nm. Rocket is 14 though.
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It’s also so much worse for Intel this time around because they’re stuck with what they got. It’s not like they’re here because of hubris, holding out on NetBurst too long while simultaneously wishing a decent compiler for Itanium into existence. They don’t have a plan C, like the good P6 designs like Banias/Dothan cores to fall back and iterate upon to create Conroe, Destroyer of Worlds. Some OEMs even made socket 479 desktop boards with something like 1.6GHz Pentium M’s on par with much more expensive 2GHz Opterons in performance and with better power consumption. If only they had it so easy now.
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Everyone's wanting election returns and I just want Ryzen zen3 benchmarks
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bus hustler posted:Everyone's wanting election returns and I just want Ryzen zen3 benchmarks Yeah my thinking is if Trump wins I'm gonna try to laser focus on thinking about the 5950X.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Year after year I continue to be amazed at how many goons replace a Sandy Bridge cheap each cycle and yet we still have people using them. Replacing my 2500k once ryzen 3 benchmarks are out
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bus hustler posted:Everyone's wanting election returns and I just want Ryzen zen3 benchmarks more like 538 ... points on Cinebench r20 single-core!!!
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So does Amazon usually have these chips the same day? And is there a discord or some other place to wait for stock to drop? Are there any tips to be had for getting one? MaxxBot posted:Yeah my thinking is if Trump wins I'm gonna try to laser focus on thinking about the 5950X. Please elaborate Taima fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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Taima posted:Please elaborate Orange man bad
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Taima posted:Please elaborate Thinking about 5950X means not thinking about tr*mp
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Better start thinking about that 5950X a whole lot
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Do we have a time the Zen 3 goes live for sale tomorrow?
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I don't think they've said. Somewhere between 11:45 Wednesday and 9 eastern would be my bet.
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AMD Rewards posted:https://www.amdrewards.com/terms
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Some Goon posted:I don't think they've said. Somewhere between 11:45 Wednesday and 9 eastern would be my bet. Some local advertising that got put out in NZ also listed Zen 3 as available starting at 9am EST. So that seems more likely than not.
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Looks like it's 9, but if I had the time and really, really wanted one these I'd still F5 11:45-12:15 just because early listing errors are pretty common.
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Surely processors are not going to sell out like graphics cards. Right?? can't decide what motherboard to get.
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terrorist ambulance posted:Surely processors are not going to sell out like graphics cards. Right?? I mean, what do you want from your motherboard in terms of features/size/etc.? What's your budget?
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Far Cry 6 is apparently the pack-in game & not available on the 5600x. Not a needle mover for me. I think I'm willing to risk missing a release day buy to make sure I get the processor I really want. I want it specifically for higher FPS at 1440p with my 2080ti, & want to see benchmarks on B450.
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bus hustler posted:Far Cry 6 is apparently the pack-in game & not available on the 5600x. Not a needle mover for me. I think I'm willing to risk missing a release day buy to make sure I get the processor I really want. I want it specifically for higher FPS at 1440p with my 2080ti, & want to see benchmarks on B450. I don't think the mobo chipset is going to make any difference at all. Like PCie 4.0 hardly even does anything detectable for gaming graphics or SSD performance.
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bus hustler posted:Far Cry 6 is apparently the pack-in game & not available on the 5600x. Not a needle mover for me. I think I'm willing to risk missing a release day buy to make sure I get the processor I really want. I want it specifically for higher FPS at 1440p with my 2080ti, & want to see benchmarks on B450.
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I've yet to see a compelling reason to upgrade to 5800x or 5900x from the 3700x now that the hype has worn off. Like of course it's a slam dunk if you don't have a computer yet, but if you're already equipped it seems somewhat pointless. Of course gotta wait for benchmarks but if you weren't already set to buy a 10700 or 10900 it doesn't seem like you have much to gain with the 5900X. I could be wrong once we're in the middle of the next gen console lifecycle and they're more efficiently able to use their underpowered 3700X compared to a PC thus requiring a 5800 for equivalent performance.
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Kraftwerk posted:I've yet to see a compelling reason to upgrade to 5800x or 5900x from the 3700x now that the hype has worn off. Like of course it's a slam dunk if you don't have a computer yet, but if you're already equipped it seems somewhat pointless. If I had a 3700X I wouldn't be giving Zen 3 a second look. Since I have a 4 core/4 thread antique i5, I'm 100% sold on getting Zen 3. Rule of thumb is always to upgrade when your current stuff doesn't do what you want anymore.
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sean10mm posted:I don't think the mobo chipset is going to make any difference at all. Like PCie 4.0 hardly even does anything detectable for gaming graphics or SSD performance. Oh is some of the memory bonus not tied to B450? I wont have an AMD GPU anyway so I guess it doesn't matter
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Kraftwerk posted:I could be wrong once we're in the middle of the next gen console lifecycle and they're more efficiently able to use their underpowered 3700X compared to a PC thus requiring a 5800 for equivalent performance. If you are wrong, you'll be wrong 2+ years from now when you can pick up a 5700 or 6600 (or whatever--assuming Warhol is still AM4) for a better price, so you wouldn't really be losing out anyhow. bus hustler posted:Oh is some of the memory bonus not tied to B450? I wont have an AMD GPU anyway so I guess it doesn't matter You mean the Smart Memory Access they were touting in the Radeon announcement? Yeah, that's B550/X570 only, despite almost certainly being something they could do on B450. But yeah, if you have an NVidia GPU it wouldn't matter in the first place.
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Khorne posted:1440p fps will be the same as 1080p fps & 4k fps CPU-wise. Resolution taxes GPU on nearly all titles. If you aren't getting the fps you want at lower resolution settings then it will help at 1440p too. its more about smoothing the system's performance out with other stuff going on and hoping to get an additional 3-4 years out of the system. i am also on zen+ not zen3 so this will be a nice upgrade regardless. edit: I'm expecting the 5600x to be fine for my needs and agree that by the time I really care I won't be looking for a few extra %, but a new platform. CPU upgrades are nice but the upgrade from 5600x to another 5000 series processor is unlikely to be a big deal.
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bus hustler posted:edit: I'm expecting the 5600x to be fine for my needs and agree that by the time I really care I won't be looking for a few extra %, but a new platform. CPU upgrades are nice but the upgrade from 5600x to another 5000 series processor is unlikely to be a big deal. This is a reasonable take, given that by the time we really start seeing the heavy console ports moving over to PC, we'll probably be in late 2022 / early 2023 and DDR5-based platforms will be reasonably affordable at that point. And who knows, Intel might even be off 14nm by then!
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You're also not going to see B450 benchmarks soon since B450 isn't supposed to get Zen 3 BIOS updates until January
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Nah you'll see them, the new Gigabyte bios from last saturday has full support already. At least user if not professional. edit: I should also mention I play Arma 3 which is 100% single core CPU bound and gets just about 30FPS in fights with the zen+ 2600. definitely looking forward to this one. I also have a 10% coupon at bestbuy so unless microcenter goes nuts I should get it for $286 after tax which is decent enough. bus hustler fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:You're also not going to see B450 benchmarks soon since B450 isn't supposed to get Zen 3 BIOS updates until January It's not like they'd be meaningfully different from the B550 benchmarks, anyhow, which themselves shouldn't be meaningfully different from the X570 benchmarks. Really you can take whatever gets released and be pretty confident your board will perform within like 5% of that. If it doesn't, it won't be because of a chipset issue, but rather some peculiar issue with your specific board (like lovely VRMs or poor RAM OC support or something else chipset independent).
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sean10mm posted:I mean, what do you want from your motherboard in terms of features/size/etc.? What's your budget? gaming. don't know in terms of features and such, just something that works. probably going to go w/ B550 aorus pro also guy at the local computer store said they had people line up at 4-5AM for the RTX 3080 and expect that it'll probably be the same for zen 3 tomorrow lol
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I've done my prep for upgrading one of my 2700s -- mobo, RAM, HSF. But I'm sticking by my statement about not going out of my way to get a new CPU ASAP. The day I swing by the Microcenter website and they're in stock is the day I'll grab one.
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Whats a good cooler going from the stock zen+ 2600 one to probably a 3600x? Quiet is nice, price isnt my #1 overall concern.
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NH-U12S Chromax or Scythe Fuma 2
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