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I'm not convinced there will be a normal election in 2024 at this rate. Or 2022, for that matter. Trying to ram through austerity and nothing else because you fundamentally can't govern in the midst of a pandemic that's going to drive people insane/kill another 300-500k people per year until we get it under control is just more gasoline thrown on the various tinderboxes of American tension.
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goth smoking cloves posted:This one in particular makes me so loving mad. donations from pharma are vastly more important than winning votes
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Xaris posted:my dude they could have just ran on LEGALIZE WEED DUDE!!!! and won in a landslide. literally the most popular platform in this loving stupid country that everyone supports and 2/3rds of states, including deepo chudo states, have already legalized it. I've wrapped around on controlled opposition now and think they really are just this loving dumb here's the logic on the weed platform of the DNC: 1. We need to pick the most electable candidate 2. Biden is the most electable candidate. (reasons: ?) 3. As it is Biden's platform, and he is the most electable candidate, being opposed to weed is the most electable platform it's really that simple I'm sure somebody tried to talk him out of it but I'm also sure the response was "I just won the primary, I don't need advice from you" because that's the way every high profile democrat "thinker" is
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Zokari posted:???? its 2 in the afternoon!!! they had a big lunch, time to clock out early and take a long nap
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Serf posted:the country is not as bad as you think. look at all the leftist poo poo that passed last night, even in red states. the dems are corporate owned, them staying in the game does nothing for working people someone on twitter mentioned that if the dems signed on to those policies they would have failed, and im not sure thats wrong "democratic party" is a toxic brand that needs to be eliminated
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If you're a progressive or leftist and you voted for Joe Biden, understand that they're blaming you for a narrow victory rather than giving you credit for putting him over the edge. You were a fool for thinking that you were going to get a seat at the table.
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also i'm convinced that prop 22 passed because its worded in a weird way. they do that poo poo all the time here in georgia, its a fight to clarify to people what yes or no actually means on a ballot because legalese fucks us over
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:donations from pharma are vastly more important than winning votes i always considered it less about pharma and more about prisons how are you supposed to put black people in prison and use them as contemporary slave labor if you can't bust them for pot
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Mirthless posted:I've wrapped around on controlled opposition now and think they really are just this loving dumb Reminder that Chuck Schumer has an imaginary family of people who hate him that guides all of his ideology and policy ideas.
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Taintrunner posted:it’s going to be a long march to ecofascism by 2030 as climate change just elbow drops onto the current crisis clusterfuck. im going to disagree with one point here that ecofascism is ever on the table, it's a dumb D&D boogeyman word along with strasserism neo-malthusian nazbols buzzywords of idiocy. gop will still be denying it in 2030. there is never going to be a right-wing party saying "hmm we need to use authority to demand people consume less and save the environment!" not gunna happen. thats not to say they won't be slinging missiles and bombs trying to take resources, but it won't be an ecofash.
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babypolis posted:someone on twitter mentioned that if the dems signed on to those policies they would have failed, and im not sure thats wrong that might not be wrong, yeah. i know i inherently trust things less when the dems are involved
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just loving count the votes what is wrong with you?! one vote for Joe Biden one vote for Donald Trump bing bong so simple
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Xaris posted:im going to disagree with one point here that ecofascism is ever on the table, it's a dumb D&D boogeyman word along with strasserism neo-malthusian nazbols buzzywords of idiocy. gop will still be denying it in 2030. there is never going to be a right-wing party saying "hmm we need to use authority to demand people consume less and save the environment!" not gunna happen. thats not to say they won't be slinging missiles and bombs trying to take resources, but it won't be an ecofash. no you’re confused what I mean when I say that. it’s just going to be a massive expansion of migrant camps and militarizing the borders. just think of ICE but on crack. it’s gonna be really, really bad.
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Penisaurus Sex posted:Reminder that Chuck Schumer has an imaginary family of people who hate him that guides all of his ideology and policy ideas. haha speaking of chuck's lovely family remember when amy schumer got mad at a black guy for not sexually harassing her?
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Judakel posted:If you're a progressive or leftist and you voted for Joe Biden, understand that they're blaming you for a narrow victory rather than giving you credit for putting him over the edge. You were a fool for thinking that you were going to get a seat at the table. also this. it was the stupidest loving move possible.
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Serf posted:also i'm convinced that prop 22 passed because its worded in a weird way. they do that poo poo all the time here in georgia, its a fight to clarify to people what yes or no actually means on a ballot because legalese fucks us over Nah dude, us californians are just that dumb and greedy and we want our cheap $5 delivery charge to get a $10 mission-burrito delivered to our tech offices and $5 exploited uber ride out to the latest fancy edison bulb n reclaimed wood farm chic rum n gin bar were the bartenders dress like pirates and serve $20 shots of rum. Take a look at all the props that won or lost and its absolutely pure FUCKYOU voting, more money for landlords, protection for large corporations, saving the bail bonds industry to keep evil criminals out of the suburbs, letting boomers transfer their 1960 property tax value indefinitely, protecting for-profit dialyses corporations profits, etc
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Maya Fey posted:https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1324439295847968768 Best part about this is Spanberger didn’t campaign on defunding the police and touted her record of voting to increase police funding. So she’s mad that other people out there support the idea and that her political opponents tied her to it. So I assume her solution is that the democrats just making saying “defund the police” illegal like BDS. And also socialism. And jettison anyone from the party who dares speak those words. All so she can keep her comfy sinecure and not have to actually stand for anything. Oh, and of course she also marched with BLM protestors in an extremely calculated ploy and that is what was used against her by her opponents, so BLM is definitely on the chopping block.
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Office Pig posted:when are they gonna finish counting already 2022
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Office Pig posted:when are they gonna finish counting already
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Serf posted:also i'm convinced that prop 22 passed because its worded in a weird way. they do that poo poo all the time here in georgia, its a fight to clarify to people what yes or no actually means on a ballot because legalese fucks us over Prop 22's wording was clear, although it should've been a Yes rather than a No to change things. California voters are just evil cretins. This state voted against rent control before and increasing taxes on businesses in order to fund schools this year.
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Mirthless posted:I've wrapped around on controlled opposition now and think they really are just this loving dumb They really are that dumb. People keep coming up with elaborate conspiracies like the DNC wants to lose when everything is just so much more simply explained by stupidity. Veep was the single most accurate show about American politics in generations.
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Taintrunner posted:no you’re confused what I mean when I say that. ok yeah that yes i don't disagree with, i don't consider that ecofash though. EU is going to fracture and dissolve by 2030 as all those countries also militarize borders and lock-up under the mass wash of climate destabilization and refugees. look at what a paltry 1 million Syrian/Afghan refugees did already with major rise in right-wing parties across europe and saw it already fracture in half with the UK lol
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Serf posted:also i'm convinced that prop 22 passed because its worded in a weird way. they do that poo poo all the time here in georgia, its a fight to clarify to people what yes or no actually means on a ballot because legalese fucks us over prop 22 passed both because of the wording and because of the huge ad campaign that uber and lyft spent $200 million on, including sending out things like "we'll die if this doesn't pass" and a Progressive Voter Guide™ made by them
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Xaris posted:Nah dude, us californians are just that dumb and greedy and we want our cheap $5 delivery charge to get a $10 mission-burrito delivered to our tech offices and $5 exploited uber ride out to the latest fancy edison bulb n reclaimed wood farm chic rum n gin bar were the bartenders dress like pirates and serve $20 shots of rum. Take a look at all the props that won or lost and its absolutely pure FUCKYOU voting, more money for landlords, protection for large corporations, saving the bail bonds industry to keep evil criminals out of the suburbs, letting boomers transfer their 1960 property tax value indefinitely, protecting for-profit dialyses corporations profits, etc Judakel posted:Prop 22's wording was clear, although it should've been a Yes rather than a No to change things. California voters are just evil cretins. This state voted against rent control before and increasing taxes on businesses in order to fund schools this year. well poo poo lol
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Taintrunner posted:no you’re confused what I mean when I say that. yeah I agree with this, I don't know if we'll see it too badly here in the actual US by 2030 but the 2040s for sure unless we figure out a lot of solutions to a lot of problems very quickly part of continuing to live in post-2016 america is accepting that the only win in this fight comes when we find a way to end run around it which in turn means a hundred years of suffering, millions dead, and our lives expiring at the peak of hopelessness this is why I try not to think too far ahead anymore what the gently caress are we even going to do at this point
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Judakel posted:Prop 22's wording was clear, although it should've been a Yes rather than a No to change things. California voters are just evil cretins. This state voted against rent control before and increasing taxes on businesses in order to fund schools this year. ding dong. a slight repeal on rent control restrictions went down in flames like 40/60. increasing corporate property tax to current property valuation went down in flames, letting 17 year olds vote in primaries if they turn 18 by general election went down in flames, increasing dialysis clinic safety went down in flames 30/70, ending cash bail and requiring all misdemeanor-charged people must be released in 6 hrs immediately went down in flames 45/55, etc.
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Gazpacho posted:
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mrmcd posted:They really are that dumb. People keep coming up with elaborate conspiracies like the DNC wants to lose when everything is just so much more simply explained by stupidity. they stupid people who like lots of money got rewarded with more power and more money. they're an opposition party, but dont even know it.
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Xaris posted:ok yeah that yes i don't disagree with, i don't consider that ecofash though. EU is going to fracture and dissolve by 2030 as all those countries also militarize borders and lock-up under the mass wash of climate destabilization and refugees. look at what a paltry 1 million Syrian/Afghan refugees did already with major rise in right-wing parties across europe and saw it already fracture in half with the UK lol oh I forgot to add they’re gonna deploy predator drones to hellfire missile strike migrant caravans on the border too, for extra dramatic flair
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im pretty sure texas passed most propositions and amendments concerning pre-k and tax increases lol
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:donations from pharma are vastly more important than winning votes past all the bullshit that was what the clyburn endorsement was about right?
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The results are telling me that Bernie would've lost. The downballot elections took a massive hit because everyone thought Bernie's "socialist" politics would drag Biden to the left and I think the electorate has shown they firmly reject this. If Bernie ran against Trump in this matchup I could've seen states like Virginia, Wisconsin, etc flipping red and Trump would've comfortably sailed into re-election with the trifecta. I'm not saying this to troll. The election results point to a sound rejection of what Americans culturally identify with as socialism. It needs to be re-packaged under a different identity with a charismatic leader who knows how to work the media but isn't tarred and feathered by self described socialist ideals. Just like everyone today calls fascism Trumpism we have to call that centre-left social democratic idea something else. Whether it's Cortez-ism, New Monetary Theory or whatever.
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THS posted:they cant let biden out until his victory speech. remember they can only juice him up on drugs every week or two. if they try to get him out there for more than 5 minutes of semi-coherency they then have to recharge him again I’ve asked in other threads, but how do they think they are going to keep this up for a whole presidency?
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ressurect the corpse of eugene debs and huey long
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Oh, and of course she also marched with BLM protestors in an extremely calculated ploy and that is what was used against her by her opponents, so BLM is definitely on the chopping block. another point on the side of "they're gonna blackbag BLM by jan"
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