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Did you guys miss the part where Solomon Dave set up a literal bloodsport and straight up murdered hundreds of participants purely as a display of his power? He's a classic tyrannical fascist dictator. I'm sure life is great for his immidiate citizens but I highly doubt all of his empire is like that
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Did you guys miss the part where Solomon Dave set up a literal bloodsport and straight up murdered hundreds of participants purely as a display of his power? He's a classic tyrannical fascist dictator. I'm sure life is great for his immidiate citizens but I highly doubt all of his empire is like that This kind of libel against the Paternum is at minimum a level 69 Offense.
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Nov 3, 2020 20:17
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Abaddon said on Tumblr that Solomon's ground as many if not more civilizations to dust as those he uplifts. Also reminder that Mammon did gently caress all to govern his worlds and stayed in his vault for millennia, yet we don't see the other demiurges carving up his territory. All the governing is done by his people, not himself. Which is another reason why Solomon's justification that he has to rule harshly to protect his people BS, when all he needs to do is stand around and be a big stick. skaianDestiny fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Nov 3, 2020 |
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Did you guys miss the part where Solomon Dave set up a literal bloodsport and straight up murdered hundreds of participants purely as a display of his power? He's a classic tyrannical fascist dictator. I'm sure life is great for his immidiate citizens but I highly doubt all of his empire is like that Wait, he's not fascist at all. There's no volkishness, no internal scapegoat enemy*, no state sanctioned paramilitaries. SD's more like a bronze age hero-king tyrant dictator. *Okay, maybe there is an internal enemy, but it's parasitic worms, and it's no scapegoat
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Yeah hes not one to one a fascist but he sure is a big fuckin' idiot with a whole lotta egg on his stupid loving face now. The point is no amount of big muscular big boys with strong strongboy guns and martial arts can save you when the loving big one hits. You can't punch a pandemic, you can't shoot a tidalwave, you can't sternly lecture a loving metorite. All that posturing and strong talk is bogus loving nonsense and its actually salami daves kids who do the daily running of the poo poo and those that organize in the wake of it that helped and will help immeasurably more when the revelation of the truth came to town with a nuclear sword.
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Nov 4, 2020 12:46
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Yeah, he's not a fascist, he's a despot. The word fascist doesn't just mean "an authoritarian ruler", it carries a lot more baggage than that.
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Mr. Lobe posted:Yeah, he's not a fascist, he's a despot. The word fascist doesn't just mean "an authoritarian ruler", it carries a lot more baggage than that.
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Nov 4, 2020 13:11
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skaianDestiny posted:777,777 universes, yes, but each of those can vary wildly in form. Some of them are like ours, holding galaxies of hundreds of millions of stars. Others are a single world orbited by a sun, with the stars as twinkling lights in a sphere around the planet. Others are an infinite flat plane. It depends on the story the god decided to tell. Which is honestly a pretty big thing to gloss over, given that in the effectively infinite of our universe alone there are probably billions of worlds that demiurge-tier power could render habitable and usable. Like, some worlds being universes orders of magnitude in scale above what's currently connected to Throne seems a fairly notable thing. But I do acknowledge it's well past the story that this comic wants to tell. (I do wonder what would happen if there was a fully spacefaring civilisation on one world and the homeworld got pasted in an invasion and taken over, if offworld colonies could just, like... just avoid the homeworld and the demiurge would just never notice them as they quietly spread throughout their own universe) Regalingualius posted:All of the ones he at least vaguely liked enough to keep close to him, then. Eh, I expect that some of his trusted ones are off governing regional capitols or leading the army or something. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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Nov 4, 2020 13:24
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You assume the rest of our universe isn’t a carefully formulated unreachable backdrop for the story of humanity on our Earth. This is not ‘our cosmology plus others’ it is ‘our cosmology is wildly wrong and God is a liar.’
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Joe Slowboat posted:You assume the rest of our universe isn’t a carefully formulated unreachable backdrop for the story of humanity on our Earth. Maybe its different in Allison's no-Australia Earth, but there's really bo reason to think that.
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Algid posted:In our cosmology it is possible to reach heaven through violent explosions. My point is, assuming science fiction stuff outpaces demigods with knowledge and power inconceivable within a single lesser universe is just a result of a general genre-scale operation people see in SF vs F and I won’t stand for it, won’t stand for it I say!
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I wasn't really saying it would outpace, just there's some interesting consequences of scale with the bigger universes that hasn't ever come up in-comic. It's not much of a big deal, though.
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One of the seven would just wave their hand and wipe clean the offensive stars from the heavens above. They are Royalty and their breath is destruction.
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Clearly the solution is to teach the people Ki-Rata to level the field.
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On one hand, wiegieman posted:One of the seven would just wave their hand and wipe clean the offensive stars from the heavens above. They are Royalty and their breath is destruction. On the other hand, science is very Royal thing when done properly. After all, science is continuos application of scientific principle, endless doubt which allows people to reach the deepest Not-Lies. We even kind of have confirmation for this logic, since Jadis was the science!Demiurge, which means that science is a path to Royalty (the one she has fallen off from upon reaching omniscience).
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On the time loop thing, what's the name of this book of the comic again?
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Alitur posted:
science (n.) mid-14c., "what is known, knowledge (of something) acquired by study; information;" also "assurance of knowledge, certitude, certainty," from Old French science "knowledge, learning, application; corpus of human knowledge" (12c.), from Latin scientia "knowledge, a knowing; expertness," from sciens (genitive scientis) "intelligent, skilled," present participle of scire "to know," probably originally "to separate one thing from another, to distinguish," related to scindere "to cut, divide," from PIE root *skei- "to cut, split" (source also of Greek skhizein "to split, rend, cleave," Gothic skaidan, Old English sceadan "to divide, separate").
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jsoh posted:science (n.) Reach heaven through publishing.
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Alitur posted:Reach heaven through publishing. 
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Science is not quite Royal, though it can cut quite impressively. After all, science culminates in Jadis: Absolute knowledge of what is, but without any sort of drive towards what could be. Science has no inherent purpose to change the world, and indeed, if blindly pursued without valuation or real self-consideration (positivism) it becomes a prison. There's a reason Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals was not ultimately an exhortation to learn how to do science.
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Of course! That's what engineering is for!
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Whenever this thread starts talking about Kings, my mind just keeps repeating this achewood
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Kings WERE raw as hell.
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Ray attains more wisdom in 6 panels than the demiurges learn in 6 millennia.
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Zoss breaches the firmament through the use of dark sciences to recover a fragment of the Song of Maybe https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/ksbd-3-42/
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Joe Slowboat posted:Science is not quite Royal, though it can cut quite impressively. yeah but he also said science is gay
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Super Waffle posted:Zoss breaches the firmament through the use of dark sciences to recover a fragment of the Song of Maybe I've always wondered what exactly "Dark Science" was... Like yeah, I'm a scientist/engineer, but all this time maybe I've just been unknowingly practicing Light Science instead so I haven't been able to breach the firmament. Maybe I gotta think about this differently like Dark Lunch or something instead.
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I think dark science is just mad science. Practicing dark science is just what gets you kicked out/discredited from your field and/or probably put in prison.Tulip posted:Whenever this thread starts talking about Kings, my mind just keeps repeating this achewood I am imagining this as a conversation between Alison and White Chain and it's good TwoPair fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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Dark Science is applied Dark Enlightenment, Zoss reached Throne through his supreme understanding of Black IQ statistics.
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I’m assuming it’s the science of weird horrible occult powers, it’s not like the universe runs on fuckin’ atoms. Dark Science is when you start messing with real matter, which is the flame immortal. That or dark science is just when the peer review can’t touch you because you have transvaluated all citation values.
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Dark Science is just regular science with inadequate lighting reach heaven through eyestrain
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They actually finally explained what dark science is, like, this month.
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 Ive always interpreted the last 3 panels as Zoss wondering who the hell these people are and realizing what the gently caress what he did and what just happened and how "gently caress, i guess this is what were doing now then" his face looks.
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Zoss just wanted to see what was there
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 Unnamed Demiurge, or young Zoss learning the secrets of Dark Science from the Black Flame? (it's the former) ThaumPenguin posted:Zoss just wanted to see what was there I think he wanted to ask God "why is creation so loving awful?", and decided he could do a better job.
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A.o.D. posted:Ray attains more wisdom in 6 panels than the demiurges learn in 6 millennia. Shamefully, he did not follow his own wisdom and obtained royalty regardless
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ThaumPenguin posted:Zoss just wanted to see what was there The most Royal motivation.
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ThaumPenguin posted:Zoss just wanted to see what was there Think about all the late Zoss's from unconquered planes who breach heaven through amassing power then immediately get stomped into paste by KILL BOSS
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GENUINE CAT HERDER posted:I've always wondered what exactly "Dark Science" was... Audio balancing.
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Kalli posted:KILL BOSS I genuinely wish Abbadon would sell some of his devils' clothes. A KILL BOSS jacket over a TOP top with EVIL pantaloons? Why yes, I'll buy three sets.
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