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Who What Now posted:TBF he managed to more or less insta-gib Forge the second he actually tried. His problem with that fight was willingly letting himself get beat to hell and back for the chance at some info. And also leaving his kids on a runaway train to do it
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Who What Now posted:TBF he managed to more or less insta-gib Forge the second he actually tried. His problem with that fight was willingly letting himself get beat to hell and back for the chance at some info. That's an interesting way to describe stabbing Forge in the back. Not the one one shot part but Forge quitting the fight and just forgetting about Spender. Alopex posted:And also leaving his kids on a runaway train to do it Good thing Agent Day is a responsible adult. Hypocrisy fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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New page! I think this basically confirms that Francisco is a ghost. Isabel's non-spectral mother isn't able to hear him despite her apparently being close by that his student didn't need to call that loudly to her
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I do love the complex relationship between Isabel and Spender.
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Oh God, this makes the conversation between SpenderJack and her even MORE heartbreaking.
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So I'm guessing this flashback will go into how Isabel's parents split with the Consortium, seeing as they're still around here and it's highlighting her relationship with Spender. That girl is really lacking in a good parent figure, especially now we're at the comic's present time where she seems to have pretty much given up on having one.
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For some reason it never really clicked in my head till right this second that the kids knew Spender back when he was just a slightly older kid. No wonder they don't take him seriously as an authority figure.
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I guess Isabel's parents divorced? The one student is about to say Mrs and corrects himelf to Miss
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Unless I'm wildly misremembering, her dad is the rear end in a top hat martial arts ghost, so I guess you could say they're divorced, "till death do us part" and all.
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sirtommygunn posted:Unless I'm wildly misremembering, her dad is the rear end in a top hat martial arts ghost, so I guess you could say they're divorced, "till death do us part" and all. Her dad is the guy training whoever is the white spectral that lifted the lantern off of Mina. The waitress. I can remember like every other detail about her except her name. Angry ghost is Isabela's grandfather.
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Ok so I was wildly misremembering, carry on then.
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Brought To You By posted:Her dad is the guy training whoever is the white spectral that lifted the lantern off of Mina. The waitress. I can remember like every other detail about her except her name. Angry ghost is Isabela's grandfather. Her name is Penny Spender.
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Tenebrais posted:Her name is Penny Spender.  yes, she's Spender's sister. That might have been a significant detail
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https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-4-page-96 here's her mom & her younger dad, as a refresher https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-6-page-46 and dad in the present, with penny as mentioned above
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Looks like she's already been mauled at that time but not got the book yet, as she is "a real crybaby" in the flashback.
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You know, it didn't occur to me at the time, but isn't it kind of odd that Zarei wouldn't recognize Penny as Spender's sister?
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Fecha posted:You know, it didn't occur to me at the time, but isn't it kind of odd that Zarei wouldn't recognize Penny as Spender's sister? Zarei was too busy focusing on her Dating Drama to really pay attention to someone going full customer service, probably.
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Also someone she might not have seen since they were kids. Assuming Zarei and Spender even hung out outside of doing spectral adventures.
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Zerilan posted:New page! Which is weird, because Isabel says that her parents are both spectrals in the ghost train arc!
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Amidiri posted:Which is weird, because Isabel says that her parents are both spectrals in the ghost train arc! She could have become a spectral between the flashback and the present day?
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Could also be that Amy isn't bio-mum. Or that she is, and isn't a spectral, but that by later in the comic Isabel has misremembered or misrepresented the truth for whatever reason (much like she did when telling the story of how she got the book)
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There's probably a lot of unpack in that family situation still, like Isabel directly accusing Francisco of hating her dad for being "weak," which by his standards could literally just mean "isn't an rear end in a top hat who wants to solely devote himself to fighting."
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I think the general fact that Isabel lives with her grandfather when we know her father is in town running an antiques shop (and doesn't seem to live in the same house) insinuates something is weird in the family, particularly when we know Isabel's dad and Francisco don't get along, which you'd think would make Isabel's dad reluctant to leave his kid with him. The fact that this page implies Isabel's parents are divorced might indicate that things were tumultuous when they separated and it was thought staying at Francisco's would be more stable for Isabel, but we also know that Francisco spends all his time training people. Maybe it was out of necessity.
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For that matter, who has legal custody? The guy who's been dead for years.
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Just because she lives with him doesn't necessarily mean he has legal custody.
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Rand Brittain posted:For that matter, who has legal custody? The guy who's been dead for years. Probably the same person who has legal ownership of the house where the dojo is built. One possibility that shouldn't be discounted is that even if he's a ghost, Grandpa may not be legally dead. After all he can still sign papers and send letters (someone who gave a spirit book to Isabel and a spirit brush to Ed probably has a lot of other stationery tools).
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Also, this is Mayview. A Vampire is running the police department. I'm sure there's going to be some people in the local civil service sympathetic to the fact that dead people might not want to stop having lives yet.
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Update up: https://twitter.com/paranaturalzack/status/1324666101532299264?s=21
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Well that confirms it irrevocably. Also it's nice to see that Gramps at least feels a sense of responsibility to Isabel, even if he doesn't exactly show love. Interesting note: This guy was presumably alive at this point unless that ladle is a tool. Tenebrais fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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Jesus that this an amazingly real strained family dynamic for a story about a ghost grandpa. It's just a raw deal for everyone caught up in it.
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Tenebrais posted:Well that confirms it irrevocably.
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Splicer posted:Died in a tragic ladleing accident I shudder to think what kind of ladel accident could remove someone's legs.
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Tired of hearing about her ghostly father-in-law, Amy chugged orange juice until she could finally see him.
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Man, who hurt grandpa Guerra (I mean emotionally, obviously something killed him) Tenebrais posted:Interesting note: This guy was presumably alive at this point unless that ladle is a tool. Maybe he's just standing above the pot waving his hand around cuz he wants to be helpful Fecha fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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I think that guy might be a ghost you guys
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I totally thought it was backwards, and Amy had died and that’s why Grandpa was her daughter’s caretaker. Which is incredibly stupid since Spectrals can see ghosts
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It's always nice when longstanding theory is confirmed good page, very solid oofs a plenty on this family situation
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I thought it was always pretty clear that Francisco cared about Isabella even though he's too much of a stoic meathead to verbalize it. The alt text made me laugh so hard.
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I think we've been assuming both of Isabel's parents left her with Francisco, but could this imply that Amy's still around, we just haven't seen her in the present yet (probably partially due to a nurse's weird schedule)? I'm not sure if there would be anything to contradict it, but I could be forgetting something. Thinking we might see the origin of Eightfold and Isabel's friendship by the end of this flashback. In chapter 4, when Eightfold states Isabel isn't telling the full story about how they met, one of the things she says is "what about your parents?" A bad divorce would be yet another thing adding to Isabel's stress/underconfidence to make Francisco needs she needs a tool for support.
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cropoval posted:I think we've been assuming both of Isabel's parents left her with Francisco, but could this imply that Amy's still around, we just haven't seen her in the present yet (probably partially due to a nurse's weird schedule)? I'm not sure if there would be anything to contradict it, but I could be forgetting something. EDIT: Not to mention, if her mauling happened right before the divorce, that would also contribute to Isabel's emotional distress because to a 6 year old, that means she's the person who ruined everything. Even though she isn't! Even though every detail we have points to her parents hooking up young and growing apart in their mid-20s, to there being a lot of pre-existing familial strain, and to everyone involved loving Isabel. PetraCore fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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