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I mean, if you look at Season 1 and most of Season 2 of TNG, you say, "Wow, this is the show they were trying to be? It's...different." And then things settle down. It took time, but they discovered themselves. (pun not intended.) Like, is the Klingon sex scene the equivalent of Code of Honor? Or the pay-cable version of Justice? Probably. Hell, the first episode of SG-1 has full-frontal nudity! ashpanash fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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Page 359 of the thread came and went with nary a comment. smdh
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It’s funny, because TNG went through almost as much producer and writer turnover and general production hell during its first two seasons as Disco. Maybe even more. The difference is that behind the scenes shenanigans are much more obvious when you’re trying to tell a coherent season-long arc as opposed to the occasional duff standalone episode. It seems they’re trying for a loose arc populated by individual stories this season, and I think that’s probably a good balance.
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They really couldn't tell us where they were heading? I really hate "here's where you need to go." "But" "That's where you have to go" and then roll credits. It's probably the ruins of Romulus or something stupid like that.
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Hubbardologist posted:Page 359 of the thread came and went with nary a comment. smdh PAGE 359 WAS AN INSIDE JOB
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Hubbardologist posted:Page 359 of the thread came and went with nary a comment. smdh gently caress yesss 360 here we go, I love circlessssss.
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Thom12255 posted:That was a good, old fashioned, Trek episode. Yeah, it really was. They're ona good track to good Trek. The Trill flashback sequence was really moving, Adira's actor did a drat good job and so did their boyfriend. Detmer's psycho break was played well, that's exactly the sort of thing that sets off a "did they just say that ?" reaction. I just wish they'd found time for enough small talk around the table for a few people's names being dropped, at least the blond woman's, but half the people at that table are known by name to the audience yet, Baby steps. I think they'll get there.
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It's promising that they didn't swap creative teams this season, and 4 is the same people. If this is the direction they're keeping then maybe Disco will end up having two lovely seasons and then the rest is watchable? Plenty of precedent for that. 
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I can't take credit for this, but somebody I was reading, talking about something else, pointed out that the advantage of series made up of standalone episodes was that you can take risks and experiment. So, you'll read an article about "The 10 best episodes of the Twilight Zone" or whatever, but that's out of 156 episodes. some of which were terrible (I'm looking at you, "The Bewitchin' Pool"). Or with TNG, sometimes you get Family, or you get The Inner Light, but sometimes you get Code of Honor or Masks. But that's ok, because once that episode's done, even if the plot or themes don't work or people hate it, you can do something completely different next episode. With something like Discovery or Picard, though, you can't do that, because it's one story. If people don't like the "Discovery goes forward in time and has to rebuild a broken Federation" or a "Picard has to stop a godlike race of machines from wiping out organic life" plot, then that's an entire season out the window and the show's in trouble. Season wide serialization makes the writers more conservative and makes the show more fragile.
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Ten bucks says they’re gonna utilize some sort of Iconian technology to fix the past or whatever. Or the Guardian of Forever.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:They explicitly said they don't have enough hosts to get by though Ah, i’ll have to watch it again. I want emptying the dishwasher halfway through.
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nine-gear crow posted:PAGE 359 WAS AN INSIDE JOB PAGE 359 KILLED JENNIFER SISKO
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Maybe i'm just a big softy but everyone making up at the end made me misty eye'd. Also having it open with a log followed by a brief setup for the episode felt real 90s trek. Culber being shown to be a extremely good doctor, not only caring for the phsyical health but their mental health. I guess the Trill being assholes is what they meant by the Trill being more sinister.
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Did the budget for this show get massively slashed for Season 3? I didn't care for the first two seasons, but they looked visually interesting. Season 3 so far looks like a SyFy also ran. Throw up some weird poo poo on the walls of an abandoned warehouse, a few screens, shine a wacky light around, DA FUTURE.
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Finally, some good loving trans representation in my Star Treks. This was a drat good episode, and I hope they keep up the trend. Bloody Hedgehog posted:Did the budget for this show get massively slashed for Season 3? I didn't care for the first two seasons, but they looked visually interesting. Season 3 so far looks like a SyFy also ran. It's not real Star Trek without the rough edges imo.
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Your crew is stressed might I recommend a intimate dinner with the people you work with and Space Hitler she's a real stress reducer.
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piratepilates posted:gently caress yesss 360 here we go, I love circlessssss. I'm gonna do a 360 and go back to page 359
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I recognized Gray as Buck from The OA. Also, the Trill were used to broach same-sex relationships back in the 90s, and now they’re introducing non-binary/trans characters through them, too. Trill doing a lot of progressive heavy lifting!
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Always a violin or a cello or something, never an antagonistic undecagonstring.Cojawfee posted:They really couldn't tell us where they were heading? I really hate "here's where you need to go." "But" "That's where you have to go" and then roll credits. It's probably the ruins of Romulus or something stupid like that. The way Burnham reacted made it seem like it's something she immediately recognised as weird rather than just a generic location. I'm betting she'll pass it on to the rest of the crew between episodes and then set up the start of them episode with them nervous about it so the audience only learns when they jump in. (Still holding out for Qo'noS) Bloody Hedgehog posted:Did the budget for this show get massively slashed for Season 3? I didn't care for the first two seasons, but they looked visually interesting. Season 3 so far looks like a SyFy also ran. Not sure, but I think in the new setting they're trying to do more, which means stretching things thinner. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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My bet is that it's literally Vulcan which should have been like the second place they checked. Wait did Vulcan get destroyed in this timeline?
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It’s Ferenginar. All hail Federation president Rom V!!!
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Spanish Matlock posted:My bet is that it's literally Vulcan which should have been like the second place they checked. Wait did Vulcan get destroyed in this timeline? No, we're still in Prime, not Kelvin. Vulcan's fine. Romulan space is still a radiation-fried crisp, though. (Oh hey, maybe Fed/Starfleet is at the ruins of Romulus, using the supernova remnant to protect itself. You'd have to penetrate through massive swathes of irradiated space to reach it) I am a little surprised that we don't know more about Vulcan. It's always been depicted as very close to Earth, Earth should've known something. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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Phylodox posted:It’s Ferenginar. All hail Federation president Rom V!!! I'm telling you if Ferengi don't show up in the fallout 4 hypercapitalist ruins of the galaxy I'm going to be very unhappy. They should be a pig in poo poo right now.
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MikeJF posted:No, we're still in Prime, not Kelvin. Vulcan's fine. Romulan space is still a radiation-fried crisp, though. (Oh hey, maybe Fed/Starfleet is at the ruins of Romulus, using the supernova remnant to protect itself. You'd have to penetrate through massive swathes of irradiated space to reach it) Earth didn’t know that the people on Titan were people, despite the fact that they could have just called them up on the radio and gotten an answer within like, a couple hours. From what we’ve been shown, it seems the people of earth literally don’t want to know.
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Spanish Matlock posted:I'm telling you if Ferengi don't show up in the fallout 4 hypercapitalist ruins of the galaxy I'm going to be very unhappy. They should be a pig in poo poo right now. All the reforms hit just before the Burn, they were just raising the Ferengi Socialist Workers' Union flag when it happened
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The Ferengi probably got genocided as soon as they could no longer warp away from the bullshit they constantly pull
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I think I said this last week, but this week clinches for me that Blu del Barrio is terrific and Adira is so utterly likable as a character. Looking forward to seeing more of Ian Alexander, as well.
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HD DAD posted:I think I said this last week, but this week clinches for me that Blu del Barrio is terrific and Adira is so utterly likable as a character. Looking forward to seeing more of Ian Alexander, as well. They definitely feel like someone I could imagine being or knowing. I also know a lot of Tillies and I could do without the reminder
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Guys, did you all forget that Ferenginar was already well on its way to becoming a socialist paradise by the end of Deep Space Nine? A thousand years later they’ve probably invented entirely new levels of hypercommunism heretofore unimagined in the galaxy!
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HD DAD posted:I think I said this last week, but this week clinches for me that Blu del Barrio is terrific and Adira is so utterly likable as a character. Looking forward to seeing more of Ian Alexander, as well. They are both excellent actors and their relationship on-screen is bolstered by the fact that they are both absolutely adorable
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Gonz posted:Ten bucks says they’re gonna utilize some sort of Iconian technology to fix the past or whatever. Or the Guardian of Forever. If they actually use the Guardian of Forever, and it is an actual speaking character in the story, I could be down for that. What would actually be some Good loving Trek is if they get to the Guardian and they use it, only to discover that fixing the Burn creates a worse future, so they have to leave things alone and instead work on improving things in the present. A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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MikeJF posted:Always a violin or a cello or something, never an antagonistic undecagonstring. Can't afford the extra arms
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MikeJF posted:Always a violin or a cello or something, never an antagonistic undecagonstring. Gravitas Shortfall posted:Can't afford the extra arms Why can't we get an alien with multiple arms that can play two different instruments. I just want to see one of those concert nights on a ship where someone is playing the violin and the cello. Or a violin and piano or something.
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A glowing, floating orb that emits otherworldly tones that’s definitely not just Ron Jones playing a Juno-106.
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I’m gonna predict that based on the new Starfleet badges that Federation headquarters is on Kronos. And somehow Discovery will close out that lingering thread with the bomb from season one.
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MikeJF posted:Always a violin or a cello or something, never an antagonistic undecagonstring. The first 2 seasons also felt like they barely left the ship for weeks at a time. And even when they did, it was to another ship or station that could easily be the Disco set re-dressed. They're shooting location stuff and in actual other settings this year. And they went to Iceland for the locations in the openers.
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That blonde pony-tailed officer bugs me like nothing else. I don't even know why. She's good looking and everything. But every time the camera frames her, it's like they're saying to me "LOOK AT HER!!!!!" voiced like the Joker.
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socialsecurity posted:Your crew is stressed might I recommend a intimate dinner with the people you work with and Space Hitler she's a real stress reducer. I'm the Lt. Commander in main engineering who got bumped from the senior staff dinner for an Ensign and Space Hitler.
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