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No he isn't. He's looking for an excuse to bung another fortune to architecture consultant mates who will take the money and then turn around and say "looks like a poo poo idea, boss" and walk away with the money while Boris starts his next project of an elevator to the moon. Jose posted:yes lets learn lessons from biden who scraped a win rather than socialist MAS in bolivia who absolutely smashed everyone else There are huge lessons to be learned from Biden's win. Like how appealing to conservatives at the expense of your base is a fools errand, how telling minority voters to gently caress off and vote for the other guy if they don't like it because you think they've got nowhere else to go can see them gently caress off and vote for the other guy, How not to exploit a national crisis, how left wing activism pulled the Centrists out of the fire and absolutely are about to get a knife in the back for it and how putting all your eggs into the personality basket will gently caress you down the line because now the Orange man is gone Biden has no ideological opposition to a frothing mad republican party who will work endlessly to make Biden a lame duck. Doubt Wes will learn any of that though.
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Guavanaut posted:There was a transition period in the 60s-80s where they went from racist whites-only semi-socialism (but not really socialism) to all-inclusive turbo-capitalism (but still pretty racist), so there might have been a sweet spot around there were they not spending the entire time bombing countries that they'd slapped the 'commies' label on. Reminds me of my mum's idea of a 'gotcha' from a few days ago: I said "The US have bombed other countries relentlessly since WW2. Even Obomba managed to run 26000 bombing raids in one year." Mother - "US aren't bombing anyone. Who have they bombed this year?" Me - "I don't recall off hand, I'll google" Mother - gives me 'gotcha - if it's not on the BBC it isn't happening' look. (Why do right wingers think it's such a 'gotcha' if you don't have every fact on every politics related topic in the universe immediately to hand?)
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Gonzo McFee posted:There are huge lessons to be learned from Biden's win. Like how appealing to conservatives at the expense of your base is a fools errand, how telling minority voters to gently caress off and vote for the other guy if they don't like it because you think they've got nowhere else to go can see them gently caress off and vote for the other guy, How not to exploit a national crisis, how left wing activism pulled the Centrists out of the fire and absolutely are about to get a knife in the back for it and how putting all your eggs into the personality basket will gently caress you down the line because now the Orange man is gone Biden has no ideological opposition to a frothing mad republican party who will work endlessly to make Biden a lame duck. No this is what Wes wants to hear about https://twitter.com/wesstreeting/status/1324718749862289409?s=20
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Reminds me of my mum's idea of a 'gotcha' from a few days ago: I said "The US have bombed other countries relentlessly since WW2. Even Obomba managed to run 26000 bombing raids in one year." It's the Gish Gallop, one of their favourite rhetorical devices. Just drown their opponent in tangential questions to make them look ineffective and badly informed. The right have discovered they never need to play defense. Throw everything at the wall, never admit they're wrong, and eventually people will just forget about it.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Mother - "US aren't bombing anyone. Who have they bombed this year?"
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Guavanaut posted:I mean I'd understand people forgetting quite significant events of this year due to everything else this year, but this was a quite significant event of this year. Yeah there was a few days where WW3 was definitively on the cards... The problem with knowing where the US is currently bombing is that there's probably a dozen countries experiencing drone strikes where the US has no official involvement or military presence
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peanut- posted:No this is what Wes wants to hear about Wait, what? From a quick skim of that Ajay guy's twitter feed he's just some random person who hasn't offered any interesting insights into the results or the election at all. Am I missing something, or is Wes just that impressed by vapid smugness that he wants to invite them to talk at the CLP?
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peanut- posted:No this is what Wes wants to hear about So loving stupid.
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Possibly my mum’s YouTube is now giving me suggestions but I was just listening to the old radio 4 UK theme that popped up on mine, which is a very nice piece of music, and apparently they stopped playing it at some point in the 2010s? That seems to me a very silly decision. The fascists are back, why give them ammunition? Things like this don’t cause any oppression but dropping them is doing a culture war. If the BBC was doing that for a couple of decades then it’s a bit easier to see why some people thought their culture was being erased: it was. Poetic justice maybe but still a bit off.
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Nov 6, 2020 17:50
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Jose posted:lol absolutely wrecked Hahahahaha he’s not wrong
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:congrats to the lib dems on expanding their vote share by nearly 30% due to their firm stance on Due to their firm avoidance of a stance surely
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Are there any actual theories about why boomers have these utterly bizarre mannerisms on social media? All ellipses and random capitalisations and minions memes and a genuine pathological inability to think critically or show any sense of self-awareness. It's lead isn't it.
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Nov 6, 2020 17:51
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Times and Jewish Chronicle writer Melanie Philips is trying to add to her bodycount. https://twitter.com/stevelapsl/status/1324709432295567360 That list of bad people, ooft.
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ThomasPaine posted:Are there any actual theories about why boomers have these utterly bizarre mannerisms on social media? All ellipses and random capitalisations and minions memes and a genuine pathological inability to think critically or show any sense of self-awareness. If you look at handwritten letters from the pre-internet age most people wrote that way. In the same way people will (mostly unconsciously) use body language to emphasise certain words and concepts, they'll attempt to add in that sort of nuance and emphasis to text. Everyone does it, it's just people who've grown up using keyboards will do it differently, and indeed the computer age is further divvied up depending on whether you came up through Usenet and mailing lists, or rich-text methods like forums, or Unicode. Of course you then also get overcompensation with people who learn about emoticons in middle age then try and communicate almost entirely with them, and of course the effect of people not really using text - written or machine - from the moment they leave school until the moment they get on Facebook 40 years later so think that they have to type in Title Case All The Time Because That's What Smart People Write Like. There's a related phenomenon where people with one particular form of schizophrenia - I forget which - believe that certain concepts and words have specific meanings beyond the actual common meaning, so you'll see abrupt changes in capitalisation, font, colour, and even punctuation - unsurprisingly this sort of thing is very common in the sovcit and related movements.
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ThomasPaine posted:Are there any actual theories about why boomers have these utterly bizarre mannerisms on social media? All ellipses and random capitalisations and minions memes and a genuine pathological inability to think critically or show any sense of self-awareness. They were not brought up in it, and there is no training guides on how to do social media. We start out like boomers in trying to be unique and stylish, but we are tempered by our friends, peer groups, media, and whatever around us. We conform to whatever is the 'cool' or accepted thing to do at that time which then becomes the normal. Boomers do the same thing we did, but they don't get the feedback to make them change it. And you are that age when you don't care how others think, only what makes yourself or your shrunken friend base laugh or such. Same that is happening to Baby Yoda atm. At least thats my take on it. We will be the same with whatever new poo poo is invented or accepted as the norm. I plan to be still posting Bottom and Fast Show quotes in the 2040s on NeuralMeet.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Times and Jewish Chronicle writer Melanie Philips is trying to add to her bodycount.  goddamnedtwisto posted:There's a related phenomenon where people with one particular form of schizophrenia - I forget which - believe that certain concepts and words have specific meanings beyond the actual common meaning, so you'll see abrupt changes in capitalisation, font, colour, and even punctuation - unsurprisingly this sort of thing is very common in the sovcit and related movements. Doesn't mean I believe any of them are entering my house to rearrange my shoes. It does take on a different form in people with schizophrenia (I think the DSM-5 lumps them all together now), where there's an expectation that you know the altered significance of the word just by the change in emphasis though, and that does share the type of thinking that sovcits have.
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You would think that Sovcits would realise how silly they are being when they declare themselves a boat or whatever the hell they do to avoid arrest, and get arrested anyway. Seems like pretty hard evidence that their secret magic legal get out spell doesn't, in fact, work at all.
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Nov 6, 2020 18:27
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Gonzo McFee posted:Times and Jewish Chronicle writer Melanie Philips is trying to add to her bodycount. She’s a nasty piece of work.
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Nov 6, 2020 18:28
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She's posting the 14 words with an * that says Jews are white now. And not one of her collogues will say a word about it and she'll still be invited on the BBC.
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Jose posted:lol absolutely wrecked The only British politician who isn't actively offensive to the eyes is future PM Priti Patel. MPs are even uglier than most brits which is astonishing. Maybe its like how traits we find cute in animals are often colocated on the genome with traits for docility. The genetic traits selected for among politicians are colocated with phenotypes like absence of chins as a genetic warning to others.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Deeper doesn't really matter for tunneling, as long as the geology is good - digging a thousand feet deep in clay* is easier and cheaper than 20 feet in waterlogged sand. Ditto the explosives - a hundred feet of granite will mean you can let them all off in one go and not even notice (especially as they're not actually in one big pile, they're scattered over dozens of square miles). Beaufort's Dyke is a much bigger problem for causeways/bridges because then you're having to actually dig/pile through the explosives, which would be an interesting problem in the "may you live in interesting times" sense of the word. Gulf of Mexico probably goes that thick in places.
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ThomasPaine posted:You would think that Sovcits would realise how silly they are being when they declare themselves a boat or whatever the hell they do to avoid arrest, and get arrested anyway. Seems like pretty hard evidence that their secret magic legal get out spell doesn't, in fact, work at all. That's why you get things like Magna Carta being held up as the ultimate contract, rather than an old document that mostly no longer applies.
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Jinkii posted:To my mind the only reason the Chunnel was completed was the fact the French wanted it too, a public work of similar scale run at both ends by the nepotistic Tories? Just send the meteor already! I dunno I can imagine that sammy wilson would chew his way to england only slightly slower than a TBM if you let him.
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Gonzo McFee posted:That list of bad people, ooft. Holy poo poo lol Like OK gently caress fundamentalist islamists, but you're talking out your arse if you say BLM and antifa are 'bad people', and... palestinians? Just... palestinians? What? WHAT?
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Comrade Fakename posted:There was a request for some of the left-wing boomer memes from the old lefty I became Facebook friends with, so here's a selection: Blessed.
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OwlFancier posted:I dunno I can imagine that sammy wilson would chew his way to england only slightly slower than a TBM if you let him.
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ThomasPaine posted:You would think that Sovcits would realise how silly they are being when they declare themselves a boat or whatever the hell they do to avoid arrest, and get arrested anyway. Seems like pretty hard evidence that their secret magic legal get out spell doesn't, in fact, work at all. No true Scotsman for legal theorists E: as an actual legal scholar & a leftist, I feel like I should qualify that (a)we all know that coppers actually barely do follow the black letter of the law anyway, & (b)that calls into question whether it is actually "law", in the real sense, since an unenforced law is just words. Ni dieu ni maitre, basically Borrovan fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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Guavanaut posted:I think they see the types of things in EULAs and contracts, where the capitalization is used to create an entity more for keeping track of things, like "You (the Customer)" and assume that they can just pull that poo poo on the established legal system, lacking any real theory of power relations (because that would be Socialism). One of the things I try to constantly emphasise is that legalism is entirely subordinate to power and laws become meaningless where they can't be enforced. Even assuming the law you're invoking is current it's not worth the paper it is written on if the powers that be decide that they don't care. I really don't understand how difficult some people find this to comprehend, and I've had multiple discussions about Trump/Bojo where they've asked me 'can they do that' about whatever the latest awful policy move has been, and I find the question bizarre. Yes, of course they can, because they're the ones holding the balance of power? If anything, I'm surprised Bojo hasn't used the his 2019 majority to do even more heinous poo poo than he has, but I think that's down to a lack of vision or commitment to anything beyond his own vanity more than anything else. It's one of the reasons 'rights' discourse really confuses me. No one has 'rights'. What does that even mean? You benefit from a certain political consensus, but the word implies something inherent, which is just an absurdity.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Deeper doesn't really matter for tunneling, as long as the geology is good - digging a thousand feet deep in clay* is easier and cheaper than 20 feet in waterlogged sand. Ditto the explosives - a hundred feet of granite will mean you can let them all off in one go and not even notice (especially as they're not actually in one big pile, they're scattered over dozens of square miles). Beaufort's Dyke is a much bigger problem for causeways/bridges because then you're having to actually dig/pile through the explosives, which would be an interesting problem in the "may you live in interesting times" sense of the word.  Faulty. You'd tend not to use a TBM for anything except weak sedimentary rocks- it's too hard on the machine. Drill and blast is favoured, along with the New Austrian Tunnelling Method, which is not new, arguably not Austrian and not really a method, more sort of guidelines.
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Guavanaut posted:It does take on a different form in people with schizophrenia (I think the DSM-5 lumps them all together now), where there's an expectation that you know the altered significance of the word just by the change in emphasis though, and that does share the type of thinking that sovcits have. Yeah that was specifically what I was talking about (I mentioned general emphasis before), and in fact it's opposite - to use your example, when I capitalise Conservative I have a fair expectation that you will know what that altered significance is. Instead this is an internal meaning that they're attempting to invoke - to use one of the very first known version of the phenomenon on the internet, Robert McElwaine, while his writing mostly followed an exaggerated form of "normal" emphasis - capitalising what he thought were the main points - his infamous .sig: quote:
demonstrates it clearly. "UN-altered" rather than "UNALTERED" because (as he explained when asked about it) he considered there to be a difference between a direct copy and a "copy" which he considered to be an alteration because it tended to mess with the whitespace (as my quote of the .sig has, ironically) - if it didn't appear on his screen exactly as it did when he posted it, he considered it altered (including the addition of quote indicators). I can't find the post now but he went into quite some detail about this; he wanted to show that it meant there was extra effort involved in making a post that wasn't altered from the original beyond a simple copy and paste or quote. Also note that he title-cases "Information" because he considered his posts to represent an incontrovertible truth with an actual existence beyond both the physical reality of his posting and the "reality" of the stuff he was posting about (hollow earth, weird interpretations of scripture, basically the whole  gamut) - that is, that "Information" is an actual tangible thing - this of course, for him, tied in with the idea of an "UN-altered" reproduction for him, because altering the "Information" risked altering the reality itself. Incidentally he was born in 1948, so was definitely Patient Zero for Boomer On The Internet Disease.
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Guavanaut posted:Welcome the Pope to bless Armagh and you can use Ian Paisley's corpse as a drill. Sure there must be enough semtex already hidden in Armagh sheep to blow a hole to Australia. Just tell the Ra theres a police informant in that hole over yonder.
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I would prefer that the A75 was upgraded to dual carriageway if there is to be an infrastructure project in Dumfries and Galloway, its only dualled at the 80s-90s bypasses with climbing lanes on the hills. There was talk of a tidal generation scheme with bridge between Auchencairn and Maryport, nothing came of it.
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ThomasPaine posted:Are there any actual theories about why boomers have these utterly bizarre mannerisms on social media? All ellipses and random capitalisations and minions memes and a genuine pathological inability to think critically or show any sense of self-awareness. MerCUry tOotH fiLlinGs....  
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War Christmas update https://twitter.com/scottwilks/status/1324618466465370112?s=19
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Yeah that was specifically what I was talking about (I mentioned general emphasis before), and in fact it's opposite - to use your example, when I capitalise Conservative I have a fair expectation that you will know what that altered significance is. Instead this is an internal meaning that they're attempting to invoke - to use one of the very first known version of the phenomenon on the internet, Robert McElwaine, while his writing mostly followed an exaggerated form of "normal" emphasis - capitalising what he thought were the main points - his infamous .sig: The person with a thought disorder acts in a way such that the Impact (i.e. how it needs to be according to their mind) of variant emphasis is self evident in its necessity, and sovcits interpret it in a way that every police officer and judge and barrister must be aware of the Real Laws but are ignoring them deliberately because of [rabbit hole of Q or other nonsense].
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Guavanaut posted:...The person with a thought disorder acts in a way such that the Impact (i.e. how it needs to be according to their mind) of variant emphasis is self evident in its necessity, and sovcits interpret it in a way that every police officer and judge and barrister must be aware of the Real Laws but are ignoring them deliberately because of [rabbit hole of Q or other nonsense]. I wonder how they reconcile the numbers game. I met someone who was absolutely convinced the ministers "silver card" to let you through police roadblocks from Yes, Minister was a real secret thing; and just in terms of how many police are recruited, retire, get halfway through training and drop out, leave after a year etc. etc. there's no way that would stay secret, let alone the notion of an oath that you have to take halfway through your shift or an arrest doesn't count (or, from the adverts in the back of 90s magazines, that the traffic car had been fully calibrated that morning to issue your speeding ticket). And that if these things were true, well of course these loopholes would be closed immediately, what possible incentive would there be to leave them accidentally open?
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