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Lichtenstein
May 31, 2012

It'll make sense, eventually.
Pouring one out for all those misguided souls that apparently never saw a goulash. I know it's hard to acknowledge your grandma might have been wrong in kitchen, but a lecsó isn't made from vienna sausages either.

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Xarn posted:

Even though it is great, goulash is absolutely not a soup. :colbert:

It can be! But then it's an entirely separate dishn imo.

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

I would NEVER have it, then suddenly last year I’ve become a chlodnik fan, wtf :confused:

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

iv46vi posted:

If you never tried proper soup Kharcho, boy are you missing out.

Pro post right there

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Lichtenstein posted:

but a lecsó isn't made from vienna sausages either.

what western spy pronounced such heresy?

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Rinkles posted:

chlodnik's another one I had trouble overcoming my childhood prejudices with. It's pink!

One of my favourite soups full stop, but only when it's hot outside. It's like a refreshing savoury milkshake you eat from a soup plate. But come winter, it immediately becomes kind of meh.

And żurek is the opposite. When it's cold outside, it's the best thing ever.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

I want olivier salad God damnit.

TearsOfPirates
Jun 11, 2016

Stultior stulto fuisti, qui tabellis crederes! - Idiot of idiots, to trust what is written!
I'm hungry for some filled peppers with minced meat.

drat those Hungarians and their paprika (love it tho)

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

Is that a Hungarian thing? I mean, it sounds like it but I also remember having it in Poland here and there (but you can get goulash here as well fairly often so gently caress it, who knows)

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

mobby_6kl posted:

It can be! But then it's an entirely separate dishn imo.

Goulash soup is a staple of school cafeterias, and cursed.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Mokotow posted:

Is that a Hungarian thing? I mean, it sounds like it but I also remember having it in Poland here and there (but you can get goulash here as well fairly often so gently caress it, who knows)

Stuffed peppers are pretty international, afaik.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Eastern Europe thread: mostly soup discussion

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

steinrokkan posted:

Stuffed peppers are pretty international, afaik.

Yeah, you can find those all over the world. But in Eastern Europe (and maybe parts of Scandinavia) they are made with rice added to the mince, and they are often served with tomato sauce.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Paladinus posted:

Yeah, you can find those all over the world. But in Eastern Europe (and maybe parts of Scandinavia) they are made with rice added to the mince, and they are often served with tomato sauce.

Eeehhhhh... You're not going to find anything like that in Scandinavian cuisine my friend.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
Apropos, I love gołąbki

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

With or without tomato sauce? This is important.

aphid_licker posted:

Eastern Europe thread: mostly soup discussion

:five:

Mokotow fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Nov 8, 2020

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Paladinus posted:

Yeah, you can find those all over the world. But in Eastern Europe (and maybe parts of Scandinavia) they are made with rice added to the mince, and they are often served with tomato sauce.

Hell yeah, I hated that poo poo so much as a kid. Is your tomato sauce (in this variety) also the same cloves flavored slop?

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Mokotow posted:

With or without tomato sauce? This is important.


:five:

Don't know that I've ever eaten them without

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

We do a fun, and pretty tasty, thing with tomato soup in Norway (and maybe the other two as well) though, which is we put hard boiled eggs in it



A+ (and cheap) 2 course dinner is to open with tomato soup (served with buttered bread and hard boiled eggs, and typically macaroni in Norway), followed by pancakes with blueberry jam.

Randarkman fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Nov 8, 2020

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

aphid_licker posted:

Eastern Europe thread: mostly soup discussion

It's the best we can do under the circumstances.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

steinrokkan posted:

Hell yeah, I hated that poo poo so much as a kid. Is your tomato sauce (in this variety) also the same cloves flavored slop?

I also hated them as a kid, and yeah, without access to good sauces back in the day, it was whatever you could get in those 1 litre glass jars, which wasn't great. With better ingredients stuffed peppers are not too bad. Still not a fan, but I can tolerate them now. Same goes for golubtsy. When they aren't made with wilted cabbage and lovely tomato sauce, they are tolerable.

Randarkman posted:

We do a fun, and pretty tasty, thing with tomato soup in Norway (and maybe the other two as well) though, which is we put hard boiled eggs in it



A+ (and cheap) 2 course dinner is to open with tomato soup (served with buttered bread and hard boiled eggs, and typically macaroni in Norway), followed by pancakes with blueberry jam.

It is my belief that practically any soup can be improved by adding hard-boiled eggs to it. Haven't tried tomato soup with eggs, though. Looks good.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Paladinus posted:

Haven't tried tomato soup with eggs, though. Looks good.

yeah never occurred to me to try it

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

Erulisse posted:

Solyanka as in "soup named solyanka" or the "sausage plus what's left in the fridge" ragout of the poor people from 80s-90s?

Whatever style the stolovaya near my workplace in Piter served! :shrug: I'm supposing it's the former.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Anyone have a good recipe for olivier salad. I want a real Russian recipe.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Anyone have a good recipe for olivier salad. I want a real Russian recipe.

It's not exactly the most complex food. Chop up a bunch of potatoes, peas, carrots, boiled eggs, balongna, pickles, mix together season with dill, salt, and pepper, slather in mayo, bam.

the heat goes wrong
Dec 31, 2005
I´m watching you...

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

It's not exactly the most complex food. Chop up a bunch of potatoes, peas, carrots, boiled eggs, balongna, pickles, mix together season with dill, salt, and pepper, slather in mayo, bam.

Like fully mayo? Who does that? It's 50/50 with sour cream.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

the heat goes wrong posted:

Like fully mayo? Who does that? It's 50/50 with sour cream.

What the hell?

iv46vi
Apr 2, 2010
Soviet store bought sour cream was already pre diluted for you, so it’s more like a diet version of this salad.

For best results go full mayo, make large volume ( half-bucket minimum ), and let it seat overnight in fridge to marinate.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

the heat goes wrong posted:

Like fully mayo? Who does that? It's 50/50 with sour cream.

Found the western spy

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Apparently Pashinyan has surrendered and signed a truce with Aliyev and Putin.

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1325917108484632576?s=19
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1325920966875209729?s=19
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1325927926227988480?s=19
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1325939765951205378?s=19

Protests in Yerevan:

https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1325939106195656712?s=19

Somaen
Nov 19, 2007

by vyelkin
Kind of minor in the context of the other events but the new Rosatom built belorussian nuclear power plant was officially launched by Luka and the next day promptly shut down because according to journalists some transformers blew out (up?) making Lithuania very nervous

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Yes, but they are in a losing war where the other option appears to be "get steamrolled and lose everything". Internal propaganda is a two edged sword.

darthzeta88
May 31, 2013

by Pragmatica
Seems a Armenia politician got lynched also.

Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/10/nagorno-karabakh-armenia-pm-signs-deal-to-end-war-with-azerbaijan-and-russia

I'm probably naive, but this doesn't sound like a bad deal. I wasn't even aware Armenia was holding not just Nagorno Karabakh but some areas outside of it. They keep NK, turn those other areas to Azerbaijan, and both sides have corridors to their enclaves.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Doctor Malaver posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/10/nagorno-karabakh-armenia-pm-signs-deal-to-end-war-with-azerbaijan-and-russia

I'm probably naive, but this doesn't sound like a bad deal. I wasn't even aware Armenia was holding not just Nagorno Karabakh but some areas outside of it. They keep NK, turn those other areas to Azerbaijan, and both sides have corridors to their enclaves.

There are obviously people in Armenia who see a complete military victory as the only way to resolve the conflict. Hard to say if that's something that the majority of people in Armenia think or just a small group who happen to have a lot of guns. I suppose it can be slightly similar to Ukraine, where the majority of Ukrainians (~40%) seem to be okay with Minsk agreements in principle, but are not politically active enough to try to pressure government into actually following them. Meanwhile the other side, while not as numerous (~20%), are much more active, so they organise protests every time there's even a hint of concessions to separatists/Russia as outlined in Minsk agreements. Now it all depends on how Pashinyan is going to handle these protests.

Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort
https://www.facebook.com/systemofadown/photos/p.10158117610199032/10158117610199032/?type=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqmknZNg1yw&feature=emb_logo

System of a Down used to be an American band with their Armenian ancestry largely unknown. Now they are asking for recognition of Artsakh and recording videos of Armenian soldiers smiling, fighting, kissing crucifix etc. Brings me flashbacks from the 90s. Their first music in 15 years and it's nationalist propaganda.

BTW the war is covered in more detail in the Middle East thread.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3839774&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=522

Lichtenstein
May 31, 2012

It'll make sense, eventually.

Doctor Malaver posted:

System of a Down used to be an American band with their Armenian ancestry largely unknown.

What? They've always been into Armenian Genocide as one of their evergreen topics, constantly regurgitated in lyrics, interviews and assorted hot takes.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Lichtenstein posted:

What? They've always been into Armenian Genocide as one of their evergreen topics, constantly regurgitated in lyrics, interviews and assorted hot takes.

Yes, they were always very outspoken about it, especially Tankian. He even had a song about Nagorno-Karabakh in 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttfk0QinrQk

But I will also say that I was also slightly surprised by Protect The Land. Compare it with BYOB or any other song that dealt with wars thematically, and it's like a completely different band. Reminded me of one of those army propaganda rock ballads (only SOAD's song actually sounds good)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfVMV1yfU7E

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Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort
I was a big fan 20 years ago and knew the first two albums by heart. Had the original CDs. There's no mention of Armenia in the lyrics or in the booklet in either album. I don't know the later albums that well but they were more about Hollywood, porn and drugs than Armenia, Nagorno Karabakh and pomegranates.

Now I'm reading about it and yeah there's one song on the first album about genocide but it doesn't name the victims or the perpetrators. Their whole philosophy is anti-war and anti-establishment, so that song fit with the rest without drawing much attention. And there's another on the last album that actually mentions the river Aras and holy mountains. That's two songs from five albums, neither was a single or had a video. Quite a subtle treatment of the subject, incomparable to the vulgar turd they dropped now.

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