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Who will you vote for in 2020? This poll is closed. |
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| Biden |
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425 | 18.06% |
| Trump |
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105 | 4.46% |
| whoever the Green Party runs |
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307 | 13.05% |
| GOOGLE RON PAUL |
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151 | 6.42% |
| Bernie Sanders |
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346 | 14.70% |
| Stalin |
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246 | 10.45% |
| Satan |
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300 | 12.75% |
| Nobody |
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202 | 8.58% |
| Jess Scarane |
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110 | 4.67% |
| mystery man Brian Carroll of the American Solidarity Party |
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61 | 2.59% |
| Dick Nixon |
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100 | 4.25% |
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Arcsquad12 posted:I mean is there more to this or are we still talking about Kasich complaining on TV? There was some blaming of the left in internal calls from lovely centrist libs complaining to Pelosi that the party must move right which started all this. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-democrats-pelosi-election/2020/11/05/1ddae5ca-1f6e-11eb-90dd-abd0f7086a91_story.html
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Arcsquad12 posted:I mean is there more to this or are we still talking about Kasich complaining on TV? https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichol...sh=409fbb5af0cd quote:House Majority Whip Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) reportedly said on the call that if “we are going to run on Medicare for All, defund the police, socialized medicine, we're not going to win.” quote:Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.) expressed outrage with the left, reportedly telling fellow Democrats, “don’t say socialism ever again” while warning that if the party continues moving left that in 2022 “we will get f***ing torn apart.” Presumably there were other comments on the call referenced in the article but those are the ones I've seen floating around. The centrists seem to be of the opinion that they would have blown the GOP out of the water Tuesday if it weren't for those pesky leftists.
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Nov 8, 2020 21:01
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Wicked Them Beats posted:https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichol...sh=409fbb5af0cd I mean, they're not wrong. if not a single person actually pointed out that they're colossal pieces of poo poo their flimflam might go over smoother of course, the alternative option of "not being colossal pieces of poo poo" is a nonstarter it is pretty funny to see "push him left after the election" get so conclusively rejected though
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Nov 8, 2020 21:10
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Wicked Them Beats posted:https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichol...sh=409fbb5af0cd The only way forward is getting rid of these people. However, their own incompetence may do that via their idiotic failure to contain Covid.
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Nov 8, 2020 21:22
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26 of 30 DSA backee candidates won their seats. Is that enough to circle the wagons or are there too many establishment Democrats who could pick them off and restore the party to its useless self? What are the chances of the DSA running successful primaries against incumbent fuckups?
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Nov 8, 2020 21:41
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Raskolnikov38 posted:what war lol. the libs are going to purge the party and theres nothing the squad et al can do about it
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Nov 8, 2020 21:44
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Arcsquad12 posted:26 of 30 DSA backee candidates won their seats. Is that enough to circle the wagons or are there too many establishment Democrats who could pick them off and restore the party to its useless self? What are the chances of the DSA running successful primaries against incumbent fuckups? Aren’t most of them sitting in safe seats.
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Nov 8, 2020 21:59
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Kraftwerk posted:Aren’t most of them sitting in safe seats. I thought AOC said a number of them had underperformed and that was part of the reason they were blaming the socialist candidates.
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Nov 8, 2020 22:02
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it is high time that we recognize people like Clyburn and Spanberger and Pelosi and their ilk as huge losers, on account of the fact that their ideology loses constantly and the only time they are ever seen on mass media are when they are sobbing about how they have been underminedKraftwerk posted:Aren’t most of them sitting in safe seats. Yeah, they're safe because progressive platforms are insanely popular bad news for idiot shitlords who are paid to represent evil lobbyist orgs I guess, if that's who you are aligning with. What, exactly, did Clyburn deliver to the party compared to Omar? Why is one elevated overwhelmingly over the other?
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Nov 8, 2020 22:20
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Kraftwerk posted:Aren’t most of them sitting in safe seats. a lot of the losers were in 'safe' seats too so who gives a poo poo? The progressives won and even grew, the people who ran from basic issues like M4A ate poo poo and now are trying to dictate terms, it's loving pathetic and it's going to work because we've let these old mummies stay in place to run things.
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Nov 8, 2020 22:26
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They already tried to purge progressive caucus house members in the primaries and got their rear end kicked because nobody really wants bloodless neoliberalism other than fans of brunch Really I think its too early to call on what the future of the left is like in the democratic party, because poo poo is going to go really badly for the centrists in 2022 and there are enough running crises in Amercian society right now (covid, a broken health care system that in 4 or 5 months will get even more broken when SCOTUS finally  's Obamacare, Trumpists going full revanchist and shooting up places, economic depression, neoliberal austerity, no work on climate change while massive forest fires and hurricanes continue to pummel the country, BLM protests not going away, etc.) that the left can use to push the dialogue.
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Nov 8, 2020 22:32
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Halloween Jack posted:Then we'll see how long a major party can last without any reason to exist. The Directoire government made it, what, four years and a week? odd that’s the same number of years until the next presidential election 
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Nov 8, 2020 22:34
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Safe seats are the best to take. Less of a chance to lose a general, and LOL if a Dem centrist thinks they're going to win back a seat without the massive incumbency boost against a DSA who has it.
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Nov 8, 2020 22:39
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Told you so. "Sources are telling The Chronicle that Senator Mitt Romney has been asked by the presumptive President-elect Joe Biden to lead the Department of Health and Human Services. He is currently discussing the nomination with his family and is expected to accept the appointment." https://buffalochronicle.com/2020/11/07/mitt-romney-has-been-asked-to-lead-health-and-human-services-in-biden-administration
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Nov 8, 2020 22:44
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Bishyaler posted:Told you so. lmao, can we admit that the ACA is just romneycare now Feldegast42 posted:They already tried to purge progressive caucus house members in the primaries and got their rear end kicked because nobody really wants bloodless neoliberalism other than fans of brunch they’ve got redistricting as a tool now instead of just running lovely candidates. I fully expect AOC, Tlaib, and Ilhan to be defending in blood red districts come 2022.
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Nov 8, 2020 22:47
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Bishyaler posted:Told you so.
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Nov 8, 2020 22:48
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Bishyaler posted:Told you so. I hate being correct
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Nov 8, 2020 22:51
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Bishyaler posted:Told you so. I'm going to become the crime clown
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Nov 8, 2020 22:55
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World War Mammories posted:I hate being correct Well look on the bright side, it’s possible that cabinet picks involving a Utah Senator don’t get exclusively leaked to upstate New York newspapers, and you’re still comfortably wrong. Fingers crossed for you!
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Nov 8, 2020 22:56
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Timeless Appeal posted:Outside of filling the cabinet with Republicans, isn't this also dumb in terms of senate votes? Like Romney might be reliable for some decorum votes on things like a stimulus package or a hypothetical Supreme Court nominee if the Dems can't get a majority. Isn't it possible that it would set up a shittier senator in Utah? Yes. e: The article indicates that his preferred successor would be Mia Love. You can look at her wikipedia page to see her issues profile and it's Not Good (tm). RPZip fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Nov 8, 2020 |
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Nov 8, 2020 22:56
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Timeless Appeal posted:Outside of filling the cabinet with Republicans, isn't this also dumb in terms of senate votes? Like Romney might be reliable for some decorum votes on things like a stimulus package or a hypothetical Supreme Court nominee if the Dems can't get a majority. Isn't it possible that it would set up a shittier senator in Utah? I hate to break it to you but Romney was never going to vote outside of party lines. He might has his brow set in the upset emotion, but he would never not pull through for the GOP and if you are dead set on relying on that maybe you can buy this bridge that's near my house
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Nov 8, 2020 22:57
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Asema posted:I hate to break it to you but Romney was never going to vote outside of party lines. Romney voted for Trump's agenda 82% of the time. Don't worry, Dems will heal the nation by promoting people who laid the foundation for and enabled fascism. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/mitt-romney/
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Nov 8, 2020 23:01
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Asema posted:I hate to break it to you but Romney was never going to vote outside of party lines. Romney is a spineless coward who paints a picture of himself as old style strong character, but when it counts he shrinks down and just follows the rest of his party. He's a massive piece of poo poo.
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Nov 8, 2020 23:07
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Are the Trump nutjobs dropping this quietly? Are there any big rallies or anything?
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Nov 8, 2020 23:07
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Asema posted:I hate to break it to you but Romney was never going to vote outside of party lines. Romney is just as evil as the rest GOP, his blandness disguises it. He made his living buying companies and ripping them apart forcing their employees out of work. He openly boasted that he only gives enough money to charity to get the max tax deductions from them, thinking it would get him kudos. He's got that McConnell Ayn Rand mindset inside him. Wrapped in deceptively dullness.
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Nov 8, 2020 23:09
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This will never not be funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItKZDIoRVMw
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Nov 8, 2020 23:10
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Asema posted:I hate to break it to you but Romney was never going to vote outside of party lines. He also probably doesn't believe that Joe Biden eats eight year olds, and opening up a red seat doesn't exclude a new senator who does. Also, I'm not arguing that my faith and dreams rest with Mitt. I'm arguing that Biden is dumb if he's taking away someone in the Senate who you MIGHT be able to negotiate with. EDIT: Cpt_Obvious posted:Are the Trump nutjobs dropping this quietly? Are there any big rallies or anything? Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Nov 8, 2020 |
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Nov 8, 2020 23:13
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Bishyaler posted:Told you so. Not to deny that Biden would do this (I assumed it'd be Kasich, tbh), but is the Buffalo Chronicle a legitimate source of information?
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Nov 8, 2020 23:16
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Bishyaler posted:Romney voted for Trump's agenda 82% of the time. Don't worry, Dems will heal the nation by promoting people who laid the foundation for and enabled fascism. Not that I disagree with him being lovely, but Mia Love is a Join Ernst or Tim Scott level 90+ one, so that 10% does exist. It's still replacing him with an even shittier Republican as well as putting him in charge of HHS. e: A hearty lol at Krysten Sinema being the highest Dem, tied with Joe Manchin.
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Nov 8, 2020 23:20
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Timeless Appeal posted:They're taking down signs in my neighborhood. Although the blue lives matters poo poo is still up which is some kind of metaphor or something.
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Nov 8, 2020 23:24
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yeah I'm hoping the "leak" is unfounded nonsense, or at most Romney running his mouth about wanting the job if you're gonna bring in a Republican senator give Collins transportation or something
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Nov 8, 2020 23:27
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Better yet, don’t give any vacancies to any Republicans. At all.
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Nov 8, 2020 23:30
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Please exercise even the slightest iota of critical thought about these sources, and consider how it is that you're coming across them in the first place. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-buffalo-chronicle/ https://www.newsguardtech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/buffalochronicle-1.pdf https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/facebook-let-the-buffalo-chronicle-run-ads-for-trudeau https://www.canadaland.com/the-buffalo-chronicle-is-not-reliable/ quote:The Buffalo Chronicle Is Not A Reliable News Outlet First loving page of google results. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Nov 8, 2020 |
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Nov 8, 2020 23:32
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GreyjoyBastard posted:yeah I'm hoping the "leak" is unfounded nonsense, or at most Romney running his mouth about wanting the job At best this could be a deal with Romney to approve the rest of the cabinet first. At best.
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Nov 8, 2020 23:32
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GreyjoyBastard posted:yeah I'm hoping the "leak" is unfounded nonsense, or at most Romney running his mouth about wanting the job Nothing would be funnier than Susan Collins somehow having power over the judiciary and you know that! Discendo Vox posted:Please exercise even the slightest iota of critical thought about these sources, and consider how it is that you're coming across them in the first place. Is the Buffalo Chronicle a right-wing rag or something? quote:Biden advisors expect that Romney — a former management consultant by training and a former CEO of Bain Capital — will be tasked with making the national healthcare system more affordable without legislation that modifies the Affordable Care Act. That's a LOT of details.
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Nov 8, 2020 23:36
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I also know nothing about the Buffalo Chronicle, but I'm a little reluctant to trust anonymous sourcing from a paper whose links to pages for their writers or their contact page generate a 404. e: ah, well there we have it, then
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Nov 8, 2020 23:40
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Squinty posted:Localized shutdowns with support from the federal government is the most we can hope for in the US right now. After 8 months of Trump telling people it's their brave patriotic duty to go out and not wear a mask, a national shutdown just won't work. A shutdown does nothing if the population doesn't comply with it. We're about to see just how polarized the country is when the half of the country that didn't vote for Joe Biden hears that he wants them to wear a mask. My guess is that nothing will fundamentally change about their attitude.
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Nov 8, 2020 23:51
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Somfin posted:I will never stop laughing if it turns out that my prediction of >50% Republican cabinet was on the money You should toxx on this. That way the rest of us will never stop laughing either. 
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Nov 8, 2020 23:54
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someone else discovered that the Buffalo Chronicle's owner offered to publish fabricated hit pieces for a mere $400 per article lol, and may have done exactly that on Canadian politics
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Discendo Vox posted:Please exercise even the slightest iota of critical thought about these sources, and consider how it is that you're coming across them in the first place. Yeah, looks like that's a bullshit source peddling deliberately inflammatory but realistic-enough-looking garbage that it passes a (generous) initial inspection. The fact that my adblock didn't catch the "ads" was a pretty solid red flag that the site isn't legit. Somebody fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Nov 9, 2020 |
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