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Bold Robot posted:Made it to Hades for the first time on my ~15th run and thought I just barely got him, but then of course he had a second healthbar, loving lol It’s hard to believe but there are a ton of builds that just delete encounters, it’s why the game tries shoving different options in your face with the Prophecies. Plus you can always try to replicate it by wearing Zeus’ keepsake with the spear again!
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Finally, unlocked Arthur, played around with it with Skelly and the first few chambers and didn't understand why anyone liked this slow, awkward piece of crap. Wrote it off as a loss. By the time I reached the big man I had an epic Chaos backstab boon, the sword backstab hammer and epic Aphrodite attack and as I dash-attacked Hades for 400 a pop I finally understood happiness.
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Nov 9, 2020 19:26
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Man, I one shot Dear Old Dad the first time (artemis call ftw), and now I bounce off of him...at least I can farm. What are the best boost for low-heat farming? What's the best thing to spend diamonds on? And where do I get the 75 or so ambrosias I still need? Barely get 1 per run.
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Nov 9, 2020 19:38
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Died to Hades 7 times in a row, had trash damage each time. I think that's enough losing for today.
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Nov 9, 2020 21:55
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Big Mad Drongo posted:Finally, unlocked Arthur, played around with it with Skelly and the first few chambers and didn't understand why anyone liked this slow, awkward piece of crap. Wrote it off as a loss. yeah man, just put some artemis on attack and it's a pleasure to use. people also underestimate the range on that thing, if you get used to the moveset and line up enemies correctly, you can take out 4 or 5 enemies with this bad boy *spits on ground*
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Nov 9, 2020 22:03
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with excalibur, it's fun to put athena on attack and just reflect any projectile that even thinks about coming near you. not as OP damage as some other options, but very safe
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Nov 9, 2020 22:18
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On run #99, I finally unlocked the hidden fist aspect. Run #100, I won with them. Probably the most damage per second output I've ever achieved in the game thus far (Chiron bow comes very close, maybe higher). So much fun with the 4 dashes. I genuinely love all the hidden weapon aspects. They change up the gameplay in such smart, interesting ways. Game rules
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Funso Banjo posted:Theseus is a hero. He's great. If you forget, he'll tell you about it. I always go out of my way to make sure he dies first. Always.
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Nov 9, 2020 23:14
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what's the best way to play with the hidden fist aspect? i could never really get into it
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Mox Hombre posted:what's the best way to play with the hidden fist aspect? i could never really get into it I got into a rhythm of dashing around --> Dash Upper when near enemy --> spend a second or two or sometimes three slashing --> go back to dashing around. The dash keeps triggering when you hold the B button down, so it becomes less of a 'dash' in the sense of something you use to avoid damage and more like a rapid mobility tool. I managed to get a Chaos boon that pumped +atk% and the hammer that adds +5 base dmg to each consecutive attack, and I put Hangover on attack as well. Eventually I got Weak on special so I had Privileged Status triggering as well. Between the rapid dashing, the stronger attack, and the "doom" effect of Maim, I was putting out surreal damage numbers. Never staying in one place for more than a second or two at a time seems like the recipe for success with the hidden fists. Oh yeah, I had Athena dash (naturally) so dashing around constantly was even more effective. minya fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Nov 9, 2020 |
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Nov 9, 2020 23:46
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RandomFerret posted:I just wish he'd stop being such a bad influence on my buddy Asterius Still sad that it doesn't eventually change from "Theseus" and "The Minotaur" to "Some Human Guy" and "Asterius"
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Nov 10, 2020 00:15
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This was an incredibly fun run. Finally did tiny vermin and spent all of the last half of the game dashing around like an idiot. 
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minya posted:Never staying in one place for more than a second or two at a time seems like the recipe for success
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lol yeah I guess that's kind of the whole game in a nutshell isn't it? Those 4 dashes really do help you lean into that though
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Nov 10, 2020 00:26
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Beat it for the first time, although I feel insecure people are doing it in 20 runs, I hadn't even nicknamed the hydra by then! I took about 80. Was a pretty mishmash build, I think it was down to playing conservatively with the Chaos Shield and getting the Charged Shot upgrade. I was a little disappointed I was able to stand back to a wall and black everything and zapping him in between. I actually also got a heat 1 completion in as well, again with Chaos Shield and charge shot. Looks like I can get a decent amount of Titan Blood and open up the upgrades now, hit a real wall fighting to beat it the first time.
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Nov 10, 2020 00:43
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 I didnt intend this to be a speedrun but this combo was disgusting. Not shown is Zeus aid and 30% starting call so I destroyed Styx once I realized what I had
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Nov 10, 2020 02:07
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So I took the spear hammer that causes you spin dash to strike 3 times but your dash distance is decreased. I could not get used to it and I realized how much I rely on spamming dash. I limped all the way to 10% health on Dad and then he kills me because I can't dash out of the way of stuff, even with +1 dash.
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Nov 10, 2020 02:19
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One thing I forgot to mention about my clears was that I just started using the Butterfly keepsake instead of a god's one to kick-start a build focussing one one. Us it generally held that getting +20% damage from that is better than being able to build around a specified god's mechanics reliably? Speaking of, does taking a boon from a particular god increase the likelihood of a boon from them being offered again? Or is that just confirmation bias?
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BizarroAzrael posted:One thing I forgot to mention about my clears was that I just started using the Butterfly keepsake instead of a god's one to kick-start a build focussing one one. Us it generally held that getting +20% damage from that is better than being able to build around a specified god's mechanics reliably? You soft-cap at 4 different gods per run, and then you can cheese that with keepsakes to get 5 And Hermes is his own thing on top of that
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Nov 10, 2020 02:58
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BizarroAzrael posted:Speaking of, does taking a boon from a particular god increase the likelihood of a boon from them being offered again? Or is that just confirmation bias? Each run gives you Hermes + four random Olympians that will show up. If you want any other gods for that run that aren't in the pool, you can equip their keepsake which forces them to spawn at least once.
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Nov 10, 2020 04:04
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 This is my dumbest win so far. Just dropped all three of my casts, stood on the opposite side of the enemy, and spammed attack to win. Cursed Slash is dumb if you get enough health.
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minya posted:lol yeah I guess that's kind of the whole game in a nutshell isn't it? Oh the absolute turning point of me succeeding at this game was realising that it just worked way better if you just assumed that dash-strike and dash-special were the main way of doing things and never pressing the buttons alone. ABD. Always Be Dashing. (I am terrible at bow now though)
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Nov 10, 2020 04:54
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Sydin posted:Each run gives you Hermes + four random Olympians that will show up. If you want any other gods for that run that aren't in the pool, you can equip their keepsake which forces them to spawn at least once. Like, if Poseidon isn't in the randomly determined pool at the very beginning of the run, I'll never see him unless I use his keepsake?
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I believe Styx can break that rule sometimes, but I'm not sure how all that works
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Nov 10, 2020 05:53
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The true way to play the hidden fist aspect is to get Poseidon dash, and stack as many knockback and Zeus duo/lightning boons as you can find on it, then get the Hermes boon for more dashes. Win by never using attack, cast or special. You can even ignore hammers, because you won't be swinging anyway. The weapon just tricks you into thinking it's about punches.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:The true way to play the hidden fist aspect is to get Poseidon dash, and stack as many knockback and Zeus duo/lightning boons as you can find on it, then get the Hermes boon for more dashes. Then just swear your way through EM2 Lemmy.
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Are trinkets the only thing that influences the chance that a particular god shows up to offer you a boon? Up to now I did not give a nectar to ares and poseidon, and I swear I had around 10 tries where they just did not show up in the roster. Is it all just random?
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As far as I can tell, it's 100% random. Sometimes you just Get Wrong Gods.
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9 wins in the bucket, definitely chose the wrong heat, going into Hades with a pretty good kit but 0 defiance and like 20 health What a pleasant surprise you've prepared for me for my 10th win, Lord Hades
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Nov 10, 2020 07:48
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Is there any special trick to getting the 'kill Extreme Measures Theseus, then seek out Poseidon' prophecy? Do I need to specifically seek out Poseidon by using his trinket?
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Nov 10, 2020 08:12
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IIRC he randomly showed up at some point after I had beaten them in a run, but it wasn't the same run.
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Nov 10, 2020 08:44
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 Attempt 39, gently caress you dad. I got Demeter's Cast straight off and then lucked into some complimenting boons. Really interested to see how things open up from here.
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Chairchucker posted:Is there any special trick to getting the 'kill Extreme Measures Theseus, then seek out Poseidon' prophecy? Do I need to specifically seek out Poseidon by using his trinket? Nah you beat em3seus and eventually it'll trigger when you run into poseidon on a later run
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Nov 10, 2020 09:30
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Finally got the epilogue, I think I got some bad RNG here but whatever, it was worth it. Game good.
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ilmucche posted:Nah you beat em3seus and eventually it'll trigger when you run into poseidon on a later run Ohhhhh, it has to be EM3?
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Chairchucker posted:Ohhhhh, it has to be EM3? Extreme measures only affects one boss per level, so yes he's not extreme measures Theseus if it's not level 3.
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Nov 10, 2020 12:34
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Right, there's my problem then I guess.
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Nov 10, 2020 13:29
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Asterius and the annoying guy change when you hit em3. You'll definitely notice the difference lol
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They are still pretty manageable, however extreme mesures 4 is pretty wild.
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1 and 2 are nearly gimmes by the time you're looking at raising Heat; 3 is arguably more difficult (but IMO not by that much); and 4 is a loving ball-buster
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