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Mad Wack posted:has this great pic in it That’s a good dog.
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all this grousing about batteries from early reviewers has me second-guessing my 12 mini preorder. it's already "preparing to ship" so i guess i may as well try it when it gets here. i might send it back and get the regular 12 though unless i totally fall in love with the size. it does look very cute i must say
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Has anyone gone through the trade-in credit process with AT&T yet? I'm attempting a bit of a complicated switcharoo to upgrade my wife's phone. She has an unlocked iPhone 8 used on Verizon and I have an unlocked iPhone 11 Pro (purchased outright from Apple) that I use on AT&T. As a result, my AT&T line has an upgrade available. I was thinking of going through the following process: 1. Purchase iPhone 12 Pro through my line upgrade on AT&T (can't buy outright for some reason, requires installment plan) 2. Trade in wife's iPhone 8 to AT&T to receive $700 account credit 3. Pay off entirety of installment plan 4. Unlock iPhone 12 Pro through AT&T process, allowing wife to use iPhone 12 Pro My worry is that doing steps 3 and 4 too quickly (I plan to pay it off and unlock it as soon as possible) will affect my bill credits. Is there a chance that not having a line item for an installment plan in ~3 months (which is when the account credit for the trade-in would start) would affect my receiving the trade-in credit? Apologies if it's a confusing situation, any help or insight is appreciated.
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Nov 9, 2020 23:59
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I only looked at a few reviews, but I was a lot more impressed by the Max photos vs normal Pro than I expected to be. I expected the bigger sensor to be pretty unnoticeable, but it did a lot better with lower light situations.
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Nov 10, 2020 00:01
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Looks like all the USB-C adapters/cables that were on sale at Amazon and Monoprice had price increases. Shoulda pulled the trigger.
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Nov 10, 2020 00:18
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Endless Mike posted:They gave a greater than 0 to a laptop that had touchpad drivers so broken that it somehow managed to erase itself. That's every touchpad that isn't Apple's. 
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Nov 10, 2020 00:26
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Ragequit posted:I watched this for a little bit So that you don't create a bias into assuming which one is better lol. Glad I didn't go for the Pro Max, not having that camera seems to be a non-issue.
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Nov 10, 2020 00:59
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ijyt posted:So that you don't create a bias into assuming which one is better lol. That actually makes sense. Just have never seen it done before. It annoyed me since it was moving quick and I had to frequently pause to check the label and review. Ragequit fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Nov 10, 2020 |
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Nov 10, 2020 01:15
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ya the camera on the pro max isnt a big leap forward but if you like hueg screens and tons of battery thats the phone
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Nov 10, 2020 01:22
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Ragequit posted:That actually makes sense. Just have never seen it done before. It annoyed me since it was moving quick and I had to frequently pause to check the label and review. Honestly I find with youtube's compression any reasonable difference is hard to notice anyway. I think in general for the 12 Pro Max camera discussion, any time I want proper low light performance, I'm bringing my DSLR. Having something unwieldly for a little bit of time beats having a giant gently caress-off phone for everything that isn't photography. Doesn't apply to everyone of course, but I'm more than happy with the 12 Pro photos, especially on the screen they're being viewed on 90% of the time is a phone. And it's a night and day difference versus the 6S.
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Nov 10, 2020 01:40
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Can you disable 5G for the sake of battery life? I do not give a poo poo about 5G lol
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enojy posted:Can you disable 5G for the sake of battery life? I do not give a poo poo about 5G lol Yes you can.
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Duckman2008 posted:Got approved for a work iPhone 12, so for once I’ll be lucky enough to trial in real time of the 12 is “too big” compared to my current 11 Pro (I think because it’s thinner it’ll be fine). I thought the X/Xs/11 pro size was great. I got a 12 pro this year. At first it felt a little too big. It took me a few days to adjust. The bigger screen is noticeably nicer for watching videos though. Other than that I haven't found anything being better on the bigger screen.
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Nov 10, 2020 02:30
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serebralassazin posted:I thought the X/Xs/11 pro size was great. I got a 12 pro this year. At first it felt a little too big. It took me a few days to adjust. The bigger screen is noticeably nicer for watching videos though. Other than that I haven't found anything being better on the bigger screen. Yeah, I think would take the 5.8” screen over 6.1” any day. But without a choice I guess I might compromise.
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Nov 10, 2020 02:42
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Loucks posted:How are the Beats Flex earbuds? I want to replace my wired EarPods and know that if I buy AirPods they will end up in a sink full of soapy water when they fall out while I’m doing dishes. The Flex seem like an ok alternative? My use case is primarily work calls, but decent sound quality for music would be nice. Stretch goal is staying in while I run. I bought some primarily because I wanted something with controls for podcasts. I prefer EarPods for day to day use for not blocking out all external sound. I feel like if I used Beats Flex for calls then I'd be yelling into the mic a lot. I suspect they would stay in fine while running due to the rubber tips.
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Nov 10, 2020 02:49
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Oh hay, at least the bug where updating a 3rd party browser or mail app reset the default seems to be fixed in 14.2, weirdly I didn’t see this mentioned in the release notes.
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Gruber's  : https://daringfireball.net/2020/11/the_iphone_12_mini_and_iphone_12_pro_maxAbout the mini's battery he mentions the rated numbers (I added the SE and Pro Max for extra reference here): code:quote:To be pedantic, Apple prefixes all of these times with “up to”, but for the sake of relative comparison, that shouldn’t matter. My interpretation of these results is that audio playback, with the display off, is a pure test of the battery size, so the 12 Mini’s battery is probably close to 77 percent the size of the 12’s. But the video playback numbers are around 90 percent, which I think is fair to assume is explained by the fact that the 12 Mini’s smaller display consumes less energy. quote:My review unit kit included one case for the 12 Pro Max — Apple’s leather case — and it has a raised plastic lip around the camera module cutout to protect the lenses. This lip is raised enough that the 12 Pro Max, in the case, has about as much wobble laying flat on a table as it does without a case. In previous years, Apple’s cases leveled out the bump from the camera(s). The Pro Max lenses protrude too far for that.   
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Weedle posted:all this grousing about batteries from early reviewers has me second-guessing my 12 mini preorder. it's already "preparing to ship" so i guess i may as well try it when it gets here. i might send it back and get the regular 12 though unless i totally fall in love with the size. it does look very cute i must say i honestly think that reviewers use their phones way way more often than most normal people. which is fair enough for putting the thing through its paces but these people are spending 6+ hours with the screen on. who does that in normal use? granted i've never had a problem with the iphone's battery life even when i used social media (notorious battery hog) a lot more. I'm even still happy with the battery life on my almost 3 year old X, but that's mainly because I'm not leaving the house much what with All This. use of the cellular radios does seem to kill it pretty quickly. will prob replace it with a mini come the new year
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FYI if you had issues with optimized charging on your phone after iOS 14, i've solved it on mine with these steps -upgrade to 14.2 -turn charge management off -reboot device -turn charge management on turning charge management off and on without a reboot only refreshes the settting pane, no effect on the charge logic.
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Generic Monk posted:i honestly think that reviewers use their phones way way more often than most normal people. which is fair enough for putting the thing through its paces but these people are spending 6+ hours with the screen on. who does that in normal use? - The unemployed, - renters with super tiny "apartments" in Asia, - people with unlimited LTE as their only internet service,    - kids who don't have a hand me down pc/tablet/smart tv (don't even suggest consoles, they're all way too unresponsive with their inbuilt browsers), - C-levels that never use a computer because they don't have any real responsibilities outside of taking meetings, calls, emails, and texts, - people traveling, - the hospitalized, - people addicted to youtube/tiktok/mobile games/twitter/etc. - if you charge every other day on an iPhone 11, you can do that with normal 3-3.5 hours a day use - people that spend long periods on deployment (army, navy, sea shipping, commercial fishing, etc.) without necessarily having private quarters Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Nov 10, 2020 |
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Nov 10, 2020 13:12
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Generic Monk posted:i honestly think that reviewers use their phones way way more often than most normal people. which is fair enough for putting the thing through its paces but these people are spending 6+ hours with the screen on. who does that in normal use? 😬 
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Generic Monk posted:i honestly think that reviewers use their phones way way more often than most normal people. which is fair enough for putting the thing through its paces but these people are spending 6+ hours with the screen on. who does that in normal use? I do, I use mine all day at work.
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Nov 10, 2020 13:51
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Mister Facetious posted:- The unemployed, yeah true enough; i guess as the likelihood of it being your only device increases the benefits of an oversized screen and battery become more apparent. i try to use my phone less and use 'the right tool for the job' (e.g. a kindle) which tickles my patrician nerd sense but isn't remotely mainstream
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Back when I used to work a blue collar job operating an extrusion line in a cable factory, I easily spent up to 6-7 hours on my phone most days, because of sufficient semi-automation.
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SlowBloke posted:FYI if you had issues with optimized charging on your phone after iOS 14, i've solved it on mine with these steps  I turned it off, and did a reboot, and it was automatically turned on again. I've tried it a few times and rebooting the device automatically turns it back on.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:
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When you get a new iPhone direct from Apple, at what point does it become active on your phone number, as soon as you turn it on, or do you have to get a little bit into the setup process?
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Nov 10, 2020 18:27
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On my xr optimized charge wasn't switched on if i disabled it and rebooted so 🤷♂️
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frogbs posted:When you get a new iPhone direct from Apple, at what point does it become active on your phone number, as soon as you turn it on, or do you have to get a little bit into the setup process? You activate it during the setup process.
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I got my black leather 12PM case today. A lot of these reviews make it seem like the phone is a behemoth to handle, but it's really not that much bigger than my 11 Pro Max in its leather case. The sides are more blocky, obviously, but the difference in size is barely noticeable. Off raw numbers, this is what I expected, but every review touts it as this phone that's too almost too big or definitely too big.
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Weedle posted:all this grousing about batteries from early reviewers has me second-guessing my 12 mini preorder. it's already "preparing to ship" so i guess i may as well try it when it gets here. i might send it back and get the regular 12 though unless i totally fall in love with the size. it does look very cute i must say I think it should be fine. My experience with battery life on the regular 11 and regular 12 has been stellar, to the point where I can almost go three days without charging so long as I don't play games. Just light web browsing, texting, etc. If the mini has worse battery life it should still be pretty drat good.
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Some of these pro max camera reviews show a shocking level of ignorance of photography and the camera app itself. I'm genuinely curious why some of the more "camera focused" youtube channels are saying there are genuine differences in pro max and pro cameras, while the general tech reviewers are posting incompetent, washed out photos as a basis for comparison. Seeing reviewers take photos without even tapping for focus/light, or do any kind of rudimentary post processing for portraits. I get it, a lot of people will be snapping photos without ever touching anything but the shutter button, but it's been the most curious review season ever watching these people come to completely disparate conclusions.
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Shammypants posted:Some of these pro max camera reviews show a shocking level of ignorance of photography and the camera app itself. I'm genuinely curious why some of the more "camera focused" youtube channels are saying there are genuine differences in pro max and pro cameras, while the general tech reviewers are posting incompetent, washed out photos as a basis for comparison. Seeing reviewers take photos without even tapping for focus/light, or do any kind of rudimentary post processing for portraits. I get it, a lot of people will be snapping photos without ever touching anything but the shutter button, but it's been the most curious review season ever watching these people come to completely disparate conclusions. I don't understand how it's curious at all, it's explained by the difference in how much reviewers focus on photography that you already brought up, including the kinds of scenarios they use for test shots.
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Shammypants posted:Some of these pro max camera reviews show a shocking level of ignorance of photography and the camera app itself. I'm genuinely curious why some of the more "camera focused" youtube channels are saying there are genuine differences in pro max and pro cameras, while the general tech reviewers are posting incompetent, washed out photos as a basis for comparison. Seeing reviewers take photos without even tapping for focus/light, or do any kind of rudimentary post processing for portraits. I get it, a lot of people will be snapping photos without ever touching anything but the shutter button, but it's been the most curious review season ever watching these people come to completely disparate conclusions. Idk, I feel like the general consensus is, "yes the camera is better, but you won't notice it in most cases." It's a slightly better iPhone camera, but it's still an iPhone camera, and realistically all of the iPhone cameras this year can accomplish very similar (if not impossible-to-tell-apart) results under typical lighting conditions. I think the obvious takeaway is it's not worth getting the bigger phone just for the camera (unless you also want the biggest phone). I think part of the difference in the reviews is that people who take photos or video "professionally" know that nice-looking low light photos rely on good lighting, while people who are a less experienced are spending more time zooming in on a lovely photo of a stuffed animal in a dark room and showing it has less noise. That's great — and technically it's an improvement — but the photo sucks, and if the lighting was good any recent iPhone would do a fine job (relative to iPhone photo quality).
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the 12 camera using nightmode in a dimly lit room (afternoon sun and blinds closed so some light leakage) took a photo that was less grainy/noisy than an iphone XS in overcast outdoor light. its a pretty big jump in processing capability. I think Im gonna miss 2x zoom though. Laserface fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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Laserface posted:the 12 camera using nightmode in a dimly rit room (afternoon sun and blinds closed so some light leakage) took a photo that was less grainy/noisy than an iphone XS in overcast outdoor light. you spin me rit room, baby rit room like a record, baby
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ruh roh, Raggy
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Ok Comboomer posted:ruh roh, Raggy christ alive is that Fivey Fox
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Almost all tech reviewers are people who have no technical knowledge, just product knowledge, who basically just had a first mover advantage. And yes, that includes MKBHD.
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buglord posted:christ alive is that Fivey Fox that’s his eyes and glasses, yes
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