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Truga posted:iirc one billion americans is an insane rant about how china is gonna get ahead because they have so many people therefore amerika also needs many people, but maybe i've mixed something up Lebensraum to ensure the future american race. Literally virtue signalling Nazi germany with the one billion americans bullshit
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Lebensraum to ensure the future american race. It's actually boring zoning deregulation neolib poo poo from what I've read.
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Oct 31, 2020 20:24
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I watched an author interview. Key planks:
He also pitched the value of having big, optimistic ideas kicking around.
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Oct 31, 2020 20:46
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Accretionist posted:
Matty has channeled the neoliberal zeitgeist to distill an optimistic vision of the future, and it boils down to a population size variant of MAKE MORE CORES.
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Oct 31, 2020 20:51
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ubachung posted:lol that the guy building wind turbines gets continually probated while the one advocating for fracking continues to dribble all over the thread. It's pretty much a microcosm of the world at large, and a good reminder of why we're all hosed.
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Oct 31, 2020 21:00
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Accretionist posted:I watched an author interview. Just have big optimstic ideas and keep that economic growth machine going, hell yeah
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Oct 31, 2020 23:20
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galenanorth posted:yes, exactly I have only ever heard one of her speeches and it was in person and I was just there to hoot and holler at the government for being poo poo on climate change. 10/10 would hoot and holler again. It was a solid speech. Facts and figures and science and poo poo is all well and good but there's a lot to be said for the power of solidarity with people who know and understand that they are going to be just as screwed as you. She did a great job of directing the anger and frustration at those who hold the levers of power. Probably would have a bit more impactful if we had about 10x the number of attendees and we set a wendy's on fire instead of dispersing peacefully, but movements like these are the best we have. Of course that probably means we are doomed but that ain't nothing new.
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Nov 1, 2020 01:02
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Chinese parasites and yellow hordes Please stop posting this racist poo poo. I get that you are making accusations about someone else but that excuse falls a little flat when you are the one typing it out and not them.
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Nov 1, 2020 01:11
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Leroy Diplowski posted:Please stop posting this racist poo poo. I get that you are making accusations about someone else but that excuse falls a little flat when you are the one typing it out and not them. Sorry. I a merely trying to outline the level of racism displayed by Time. Saying 'i don't trust chinese to respect intellectual property" Is lukewarm whereas the comment I posted is pretty extreme in terms of xenophobia. Also I love your candy.
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Nov 1, 2020 02:35
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If he said it, you can quote it. If he didn't, you're just a guy who thinks accusations are a loophole for inappropriate public behavior.
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Nov 1, 2020 03:39
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Rime posted:If micro lofts like those hipster conversions down in Gastown were a lot more common, and renting for $300-$500 a month, I'd happily snap one up. Hell, I'd jump to buy one if they were less than $70k and I'm sure there's plenty of 20-something freespirited bachelors/ettes who feel the same.
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To add to WCG's quote...Rime posted:The problem enters when you are renting from Asian absentee landlords who are waiting to flip the wreck for land value. My poor (literally) mothers basement and roof are both flooding, and the squinty eyed motherfuckers are just trying to force her to move by refusing to fix anything. Also Rime posted:Gypsies are the worst. People who've never been to eastern europe go all bleeding heart when they hear locals talk about the gypsies but seriously. Still Rime posted:Fly all you want, peeps, because worthless lives in the tropics are emitting more carbon than the entire EU, purely through their rampant and unstoppable deforestation efforts. Guess who? posted:Nah. This is going to turn out like the debacle in the 80s where psychologists were convincing patients that their parents raped them. Or when we were castrating boys to turn them into girls at birth. Or any time we've meddled with the human psyche, really, our track record is garbage. And that's just the stuff he's been probated for. I remember a ton more of that poo poo, but I'm not going through his hosed-up posting history to get it.
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Nov 1, 2020 05:01
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yeah, anyone saying free Rime or whatever has either not read this thread or has read this thread and is onboard with the likes of what was posted by him. I get that a lot of his technical input was very interesting but his social thinking was really very simple and consequently horrific. The only thing that made it seem deep is that after being probated so many times, he took to talking sideways about what he really wanted for the worlds poor or unwanted.
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okay, let's stop this conversation right loving here this is the climate change thread, not a thread for discussing some threadbanned guy's posting history at length
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Nov 1, 2020 09:28
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are you saying you want us to change the climate in here?
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Nov 1, 2020 09:44
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Electric Wrigglies posted:are you saying you want us to change the climate in here? The thread’s climate changes regularly for no fracking rime or reason.
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Nov 1, 2020 10:19
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Right, back to cheering on for fracking.
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Sundae posted:The thread’s climate changes regularly for no fracking rime or reason. Climate Change: Fracking Rime or Reason
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Nov 1, 2020 11:55
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Climate Change: No frac'ing, Rime, or Reason
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Saki posted:Right, back to cheering on for fracking. Shouting “clean bridge fuel” as the asteroid looms larger in the sky. It’s ridiculous to frame any action concerning natural gas or fracking that isn’t completely stopping it as anything but climate change denialism. It sows cynicism as it treats the problem as if it isn’t the existential threat that needs radical change now. I think it may be even more harmful than Republicans flat out denying climate change as it steals the air out of the room and blocks one of the few possible lanes forward for legislation in the states. The democrats cronyism with industry insiders and martial stance concerning the military and China are effectively eliminating any future that isn’t just a fortress that keeps out the poors and continues to run up the score. Quotes about technocratic strategies from 10+ years ago are irrelevant as our position is so much more dire now.
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https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1323306979314589696?s=19
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30 years ago was loving 1990. None of this was even close to a secret back then. Like I agree with the sentiment, but it's more like 70 years by now that fossil fuel companies have been working with active malfeasance over the whole climate change issue, and it's been known about as an academic issue for like 150 years. We're so hosed.
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Nov 2, 2020 22:43
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This is a little shocking:Science Daily posted:Warming of 2°C would release billions of tons of soil carbon The absolute magnitude of the carbon release at just 2C warming is bad enough. The improved uncertainty estimate suggests this scale massive positive feedback isn't just speculation but a fairly plausible outcome for a level of warming we'll almost certainly surpass.
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Nov 3, 2020 01:32
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the best thing is that all the methane release gives us a potential ~6 degrees on top of 2 degrees oh also, at ~8 degrees cloud cover starts failing which will increase heat on the surface by another 12 degrees in the next couple hundred years
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Nov 3, 2020 01:40
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Listening to market place new renewable (solar or wind) + maintenance is cheaper than only nat gas maintenance now.
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Accretionist posted:What length and subjects did you have in mind? Accretionist posted:A prescient talk from 2010: Both of these were exactly the type I was looking for. Thank you.
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Truga posted:the best thing is that all the methane release gives us a potential ~6 degrees on top of 2 degrees i'm certain that if that increase were starting to happen we'd see some truly ridiculous measures being taken, like using massive solar shades to cut down on the sunlight that reaches earth. don't mistake this for my endorsement of a technocratic "solution" because it would be difficult for plants to, you know, thrive in such an environment and i still like plants
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I'm fascinated by governmental response to climate change in general, I'm fairly sure the first step will be 'keep those refugees out' but beyond that I dunno
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Walton Simons posted:I'm fascinated by governmental response to climate change in general, I'm fairly sure the first step will be 'keep those refugees out' but beyond that I dunno Don't be so sure. Look at the megafarms in Spain. There's always room for 
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mediaphage posted:i'm certain that if that increase were starting to happen we'd see some truly ridiculous measures being taken, like using massive solar shades to cut down on the sunlight that reaches earth. I used to think this but the international response to the covid pandemic demonstrated that we will in fact choose the worst option even in the face of total catastrophe. When we're firmly on the RCP8.5 pathway in 2040 we'll continue to operate the coal/natural gas plants being built today because they'll have another 20 years operational lifetime and investors need their returns. When the impacts of climate change become impossible to deny the excuse will shift seamlessly from "climate change isn't real" to "there's nothing to be done", similar to govts currently claiming that eliminating the coronavirus is impossible and we need to learn to live with it. Some regions might try to do the right thing but the vast majority of the world will not.
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Nocturtle posted:When we're firmly on the RCP8.5 pathway in 2040 we'll continue to operate the coal/natural gas plants being built today because they'll have another 20 years operational lifetime and investors need their returns. Investors are being told right now that they aren’t going to get 20 years out of new natural gas power plants. They’re nonviable for capital right now compared to solar/wind.
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Nocturtle posted:This is a little shocking: Errrr, gently caress. Trying hard to find holes in the original paper atm. Paper goes over my head unfortunately. Trying to figure out the timeframe for the release. Seems to be a decade? Saki fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Nov 3, 2020 |
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Nov 3, 2020 12:09
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There goes the last off ramp.
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Saki posted:Errrr, gently caress. Trying hard to find holes in the original paper atm. Paper goes over my head unfortunately. Trying to figure out the timeframe for the release. Seems to be a decade? its a log curve over 400 years, the vast majority of it will happen after 2100, by which point we'll have already been destroyed by several other things (or the vulcans will save us) same as sea level rise
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Arglebargle III posted:There goes the last off ramp. That was Bush-Gore. The rest is disaster mitigation
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MightyBigMinus posted:its a log curve over 400 years, the vast majority of it will happen after 2100, by which point we'll have already been destroyed by several other things (or the vulcans will save us) Yeah, a lot of it seems to be long-term at least. Bit of a relief. Still some release going on nearer the equator fairly rapidly but nowhere near as a bad as it seems initially.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:Investors are being told right now that they aren’t going to get 20 years out of new natural gas power plants. They’re nonviable for capital right now compared to solar/wind. Good news for once
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and only 30 years too late!
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redleader posted:and only 30 years too late!
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but can anyone help me understand what Gates meant by this? How do vaccines and healthcare reduce population? This is one of the key things the conspiracy theorists' argument boils down to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaF-fq2Zn7I
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