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Nobody asked, but in my non-anglo sphere part of the world, there's restaurants, where they can range from super fancy places where they have waitstaff and you pick from a menu, to dinky places where the only staff besides the kitchen is the owner sitting in the till, and the food is buffet-style charged by the kilo. Excepting really fancy or specialized places, the food is basically what you would find in your kitchen, for the most part. Then we have "eateries" where it can range from shopping mall food court kiosks to places with seating. You usually order from a preset menu, and it's things like burgers, mexican food, pastries or whatever the house specializes in. And then there's bars where the place usually revolves around being social. For the most part they still serve food, but it's mostly booze, finger foods and whatnot. Space Kablooey fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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Phlegmish posted:[gibbering poststructurally] anything can be a restaurant if you say it hard enough Man, you're really trying to die on this hill.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Man, you're really trying to die on this hill. Yes I'm being extremely serious, it is very important to me that no one call McDonald's a restaurant. I will kill your entire family if you do. Now I'm off to my
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Nov 12, 2020 18:48
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PittTheElder posted:I still struggle to see a meaningful differences. Some local examples (both of why I would consider restaurants) from near my house: All of those are restaurants. I would say that a soup kitchen or military quarter master isn't though
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Nov 12, 2020 18:56
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those all sound like places where people go out to eat, as opposed to bread doles
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Nov 12, 2020 18:56
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SlothfulCobra posted:Man, you're really trying to die on this hill. I know this thread is in D&D but I think jokes are still allowed
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Nov 12, 2020 19:03
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God this discussion is dumb. quote:Restaurant: Yes, a McDonalds is a restaurant. Yes, a taqueria is a restaurant. Yes, restaurants have existed long before 18th c. France, though a distinctive type of restaurant emerged at that time. There are restaurants older than the 18th c., though in reality very few that have operated continuously.
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Nov 12, 2020 20:46
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I know the discussion died out but pages back someone posted about the Japanese typewriter that had like 70 characters on it, and I just want to point out that Chinese typewriters had thousands of characters on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDkR87zHdXk
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Nov 12, 2020 20:55
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MeinPanzer posted:God this discussion is dumb. Then also yes, most bars/cafés are restaurants, raising the question of why you would make a distinction at all, instead of just calling everything a restaurant. Which I suppose is a valid option. Anyway, now it's my turn to declare the discussion dumb while continuing to engage in it. Ain't no one got time for this pedantry, I have to pick up my date, we're eating out at a restaurant. [next frame is me sitting in a McDonald's with a Realdoll]
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Nov 12, 2020 20:58
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cebrail posted:People call fast food places restaurants? When someone says "We're going to a restaurant tonight", they could mean McDonalds? No the proper term is "organization". As in, "Popeyes organization": https://youtu.be/Aul2Zf-1qwo
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Nov 12, 2020 21:01
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Mantis42 posted:I know the discussion died out but pages back someone posted about the Japanese typewriter that had like 70 characters on it, and I just want to point out that Chinese typewriters had thousands of characters on it. I don't find this clever at all, I thought it was gonna use some kind of combo system, like if you press 3 different keys and you get a character. This is just slowly moving the arm around, there's no way you can do fast typing on this, I'm sure some people got really good at it at could do it faster than others but still.
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Nov 12, 2020 21:05
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lol
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Nov 12, 2020 21:08
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Kamrat posted:I don't find this clever at all, I thought it was gonna use some kind of combo system, like if you press 3 different keys and you get a character. If the characters are grouped by usage then I could see a well trained secretary maaaaybe getting quick-ish with it but for most people there's no way it beat writing by hand - especially once the characters were simplified.
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Nov 12, 2020 21:11
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MeinPanzer posted:God this discussion is dumb. By this definition my home is a restaurant every time I invite my friends for dinner
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Nov 12, 2020 21:14
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Deltasquid posted:By this definition my home is a restaurant every time I invite my friends for dinner You charge your friends for dinner?
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Nov 12, 2020 21:16
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Deltasquid posted:By this definition my home is a restaurant every time I invite my friends for dinner If you charge them yes.
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MeinPanzer posted:God this discussion is dumb. So you believe my high school cafeteria was a resteraunt
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Nov 12, 2020 21:17
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sebzilla posted:You charge your friends for dinner? Rumda posted:If you charge them yes. You guys don't?
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Nov 12, 2020 21:22
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Any place that food is prepared, purchased, and eaten is a restaurant. gently caress, a pop tart is basically a restaurant.
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Nov 12, 2020 21:24
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mandatory lesbian posted:So you believe my high school cafeteria was a resteraunt again that adds new elements to the matter A restaurant is a business that primarily prepares and sells food mostly for consumption on the premises which exists as a standalone business or attached to another hospitality establishment
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Nov 12, 2020 21:27
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Rumda posted:again that adds new elements to the matter Read the definition posted, half of what you say isnt in it
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Nov 12, 2020 21:28
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Phlegmish posted:Yes I'm being extremely serious, it is very important to me that no one call McDonald's a restaurant. I will kill your entire family if you do. In 2000, a Breton terrorist group (the Armée Revolutionnaire Bretonne) blew up a bomb in a restaurant Ravachol style and managed to kill one worker there, a 27 year old woman of Breton birth. This brilliant protest against a symbol of french imperialism happened at a MACDONALD restaurant. Breton people loving share your hatred.
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mandatory lesbian posted:Read the definition posted, half of what you say isnt in it
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We need a sandwich alignment chart but for restaurants. I'm a structure rebel. Eating a sandwich out of the garbage is a restaurant.
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Nov 12, 2020 21:35
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Mantis42 posted:We need a sandwich alignment chart but for restaurants. When this conversation started I went looking for a chart I had seen in a report on the rise and fall of Howard Johnson's. 
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Nov 12, 2020 21:43
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Rumda posted:again that adds new elements to the matter There is a KPMG office near me that has a restaurant attached to it (as in you can get to the restaurant through the lobby) does that mean the restaurant isn't actually a restaurant?
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Nov 12, 2020 21:44
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I've also been to workplaces that had cafeterias for the employees; high quality food, rotating menu items, and chefs that would whip up custom stuff for you at off-peak hours. Restaurant Y/N?
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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MeinPanzer posted:God this discussion is dumb. Rebel against the prescriptivism of so called "dictionaries".
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Nov 12, 2020 21:51
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A restaurant is any place where you can buy food to go along with your beer Full size: https://i.imgur.com/j0JhtUS.jpg
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Nov 12, 2020 21:56
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The_Other posted:When this conversation started I went looking for a chart I had seen in a report on the rise and fall of Howard Johnson's. This needs a 3rd dimension for portion sizes.
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Nov 12, 2020 21:58
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Is a seven eleven a restaurant? How about a food truck? A casino buffet? A delivery-only place? A persistent tailgating party with a buy in?
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ASAPRockySituation posted:Is a seven eleven a restaurant? How about a food truck? A casino buffet? A delivery-only place? A persistent tailgating party with a buy in? No, No, Yes, No, No
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Deltasquid posted:By this definition my home is a restaurant every time I invite my friends for dinner mandatory lesbian posted:So you believe my high school cafeteria was a resteraunt steinrokkan posted:Rebel against the prescriptivism of so called "dictionaries". lol
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Y'all need Wittgenstein.
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shitcocks
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Sir, this is
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The_Other posted:When this conversation started I went looking for a chart I had seen in a report on the rise and fall of Howard Johnson's. This is a pretty good chart, but when I think of "fine dining" I don't usually think "high variety" because I think of like steakhouses and stuff where stuff is really expensive and they only do a handful of things, but they do them really well. Also, any place with like a "chef's tasting menu" where you can only order one thing, but it's amazing. When I think "high variety", I think of poo poo like Cheesecake Factory where the menu is like 30 pages and none of it is particularly good.
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I feel like these discussions are a lot more enjoyable when people are just earnestly interested to learn how others define terms without implying or explicitly stating that someone else's definition is bad.CellBlock posted:This is a pretty good chart, but when I think of "fine dining" I don't usually think "high variety" because I think of like steakhouses and stuff where stuff is really expensive and they only do a handful of things, but they do them really well. Also, any place with like a "chef's tasting menu" where you can only order one thing, but it's amazing. I'm not certain what the chart means by "concept restaurant" but it does strike me that "steakhouse" or "chef decides what you're eating" could both potentially fit in that category.
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a steak could be a concept
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