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Scut
Aug 26, 2008

Please remind me to draw more often.
Soiled Meat

SkunkDuster posted:

Anyway, I posted my first video on the new channel to get the ball rolling. I skip around a lot in the instructions when building models and save a lot of steps for the very end of the build to avoid breaking fragile parts. Then, I forget poo poo and wonder where all the leftover parts go. This video is about taking a methodical approach to building efficiently and not forgetting to go back and do those steps you skipped. I'd love to hear any feedback. Good, bad, ugly...it all helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw-IQWv8N5o

This is a nice method, I should try this, as it would also force me to start using a notebook for my models which I know will be helpful.

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Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!
When lockdown started, I began a friday night ritual with some friends. To get everyone to show up... I bought gundam for everyone, and we spent the first couple nights building stuff.

It was good. Gundam is easy, as all the colors a molded in. And all I had to do was make sure people had nippers to make the process go ok.

Now, I just ordered a bunch of kits from china. The kit parts are easy. The kit supplies.. are less easy. At $8 per bottle, it's less easy to get people model glue. This brings me to the question I have. What.. is the commercial name for styrene glue? Or what common household chemicals should I be looking at. I"m looking to give everyone some ~super thin~ solvent based glue so they can assemble these planes.

Research says MEK, or Laquer Thinner should do the job. But.. this is SA. I'm here because there's a damned good chance there's smarter people than me here. :-) What's the cheapest way I can get these people decent model glue?

Symetrique
Jan 2, 2013




Gewehr 43 posted:

Done at last!

Nice job! The weathering on the landing gear looks great

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something

Nerobro posted:

When lockdown started, I began a friday night ritual with some friends. To get everyone to show up... I bought gundam for everyone, and we spent the first couple nights building stuff.

It was good. Gundam is easy, as all the colors a molded in. And all I had to do was make sure people had nippers to make the process go ok.

Now, I just ordered a bunch of kits from china. The kit parts are easy. The kit supplies.. are less easy. At $8 per bottle, it's less easy to get people model glue. This brings me to the question I have. What.. is the commercial name for styrene glue? Or what common household chemicals should I be looking at. I"m looking to give everyone some ~super thin~ solvent based glue so they can assemble these planes.

Research says MEK, or Laquer Thinner should do the job. But.. this is SA. I'm here because there's a damned good chance there's smarter people than me here. :-) What's the cheapest way I can get these people decent model glue?

The closest thing you can buy to "official" styrene cement is Methylene Chloride. You can find it at sign-making shops, science supply shops, or shops that cater to the movie/fx industry. A liter can be had for less than $20, and that's pretty much enough for a lifetime.

SciGrip/WeldOn #3 and #4 work well on styrene too, and are a bit easier to come by than pure Methylene Chloride. #3 and #4 are similar, #3 is just hotter and works faster and more aggressively.

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010

Nerobro posted:

When lockdown started, I began a friday night ritual with some friends. To get everyone to show up... I bought gundam for everyone, and we spent the first couple nights building stuff.

It was good. Gundam is easy, as all the colors a molded in. And all I had to do was make sure people had nippers to make the process go ok.

Now, I just ordered a bunch of kits from china. The kit parts are easy. The kit supplies.. are less easy. At $8 per bottle, it's less easy to get people model glue. This brings me to the question I have. What.. is the commercial name for styrene glue? Or what common household chemicals should I be looking at. I"m looking to give everyone some ~super thin~ solvent based glue so they can assemble these planes.

Research says MEK, or Laquer Thinner should do the job. But.. this is SA. I'm here because there's a damned good chance there's smarter people than me here. :-) What's the cheapest way I can get these people decent model glue?

Having looked at the sds for tamiya super thin it’s a 50/50 mix of acetone and butyl acetate. Acetone May do the job by itself but I can’t say as I haven’t tested it. Other options are things like weld on as it comes in a larger container but once again I don’t know how feasible this would be.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes
Adam Savage did a build with sheet styrene and he used Weld On #3

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
If your friends aren't regularly handling dangerous chemicals, they probably shouldn't gently caress around with MEK.

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003

grassy gnoll posted:

If your friends aren't regularly handling dangerous chemicals, they probably shouldn't gently caress around with MEK.

Truth. MEK is nasty nasty stuff.

Scut
Aug 26, 2008

Please remind me to draw more often.
Soiled Meat
As someone who used to use a lot of Methylene Chloride (MEK) in a previous job I would agree with posts above recommending you avoid it for amateurs. Weld-On comes in much larger quantities than specialist cement. Check art supply stores that cater to architects for what cement they carry.

Another option, if you can find it for your friends is Micro Weld by Microscale industries. I mostly know them for their decal setting solution but this cement is interesting stuff. It's not as 'hot' as most thin model cements but it's non-toxic, has no harsh odour, and is thin enough to wick itself in between most joints. Setting time is slower than the toxic cements.

https://www.sunwardhobbies.ca/microscale-micro-weld-mi-6/

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something
Methylene Chloride and MEK are two different things.

And when you start dealing with larger quantities of chemical, there's no real difference in danger level between MEK, Methylene Chloride, and Weld-On. All will mess you up if you don't treat them with respect.

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!
I bought a pint of weld-on and the correct dispenser bottles. $25 is a lot better than $60.

GuardianOfAsgaard
Feb 1, 2012

Their steel shines red
With enemy blood
It sings of victory
Granted by the Gods
Finished this today, AFV Club 1:35 FV107 Scimitar:








I'm normally a Warhammer guy and have only ever done a few scale models years ago (a couple 1:72 aircraft and some bandai star wars stuff), but recently got the urge to do some scale British armour. I'm pretty pleased with how it came out, it was a tricky kit compared to what I'm used to. Vinyl tracks suck, and painting multicam is a pain in the arse, but the helmet scrim on the soldiers came out well I think thanks to advice from this thread. Challenger 2 next.

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003
That looks really great. The vehicle, figures, and setting all mesh really well and are very convincing. Well done!

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Oh nice! I have a soft spot for the CVR(T) series ever since getting the Airfix 1/76 one as a waaaay too young kid for something that loving frustrating.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
I'm working on the MiniArt US Tractor D7, and it starts by building the engine. I'm 98 parts into the build and still haven't finished the engine. And looking forward, it appears each track link is 5 different parts.

This is... A bit much.

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003
But them details, yo.

Edit for content: A page back or so, someone mentioned David Parker's book "Crew School" that talks about painting, modifying, or sculpting figures from scratch. After completing the Avenger vignette, I decided the next thing I want to learn is how to customize figures and/or sculpt them from scratch. I've had a lot of diorama ideas floating around in my head for years that have been deep-sixed due to a lack of compatible figures. So, my next project is going to be a diorama that starts down the road of light figure customization, some tank crews and tank riders with some custom bits sculpted for effect. Certainly more practice is necessary, but for a first try, I'm tremendously happy with how things have turned out. I know the content of his book is intimidating, the techniques really aren't that hard. If I can do this crap in a remotely passable way, anyone can.

The head for the loader. His body was largely unaltered.


The commander. Both arms were done by cutting the hands off of kit parts and gluing them to an armature of copper wire. Despite looking like he's in the middle of a hula performance, he'll be leaning back in the tank's cupola with his arm resting on one of the hatch halves.


The gunner. One arm and a leg were done here. The pocket on his left leg was still soft and uncured in this pic and I later accidentally smashed it, so I had to resculpt it. Happily, the 2nd try turned out even better. If I can offer a tip, it's use a little extra hardener in the epoxy putty (Apoxie Sculpt in my case) and wait until one appendage is completely cured before attempting the next. Else, I always bump an uncured part while sculpting the next. Anyway, this guy will be leaning out of a hatch over the glacis plate of the tank.


I painted up the commander last night and, while not my best face painting job, overall the sculpting is very very convincing. :)

Chuck_D fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Oct 29, 2020

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Looks great! I'm still very much struggling with faces.

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003

Ensign Expendable posted:

Looks great! I'm still very much struggling with faces.

Thank you. And same. The guy above is a stand out. The other two I've done so far aren't as good. While I'm happy with the above, I haven't reached a point of consistency yet. More practice, I suppose.

Sadly, I think I'm approaching the point where I'll need an optivisor for figures. My eyes are straining pretty hard on the super fine details. drat middle age.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something
Hot drat! I got a hotwire foam cutting table, and this thing is dope. Needed some bricks for an upcoming project, and now I can turn them out for pennies. And another huge project germinating in my mind right now that will use a lot of foam substructure.

This was the one I got, works great.


https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07FPKTJ3D

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003
Nice! What did it cost you? There's no price at the Amazon link as it's currently unavailable. Been thinking about getting one as I drive into more groundwork and dioramas. I am absolutely running out of space in my workshop though, so I worry I wouldn't have anywhere to put something like that.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something

Gewehr 43 posted:

Nice! What did it cost you? There's no price at the Amazon link as it's currently unavailable. Been thinking about getting one as I drive into more groundwork and dioramas. I am absolutely running out of space in my workshop though, so I worry I wouldn't have anywhere to put something like that.

It was $119, with no tax for some reason. First time I think I've ever seen that.

If you're in the US, they have this one and several more in stock. The Proxxon one is supposed to be quite good as well, but it has a smaller cutter area, and less options for cutting angle.


https://www.amazon.com/s?k=hot+wire+cutter&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




Two days without any new posts, so here is some filler for you. A lot of people post their really great builds and hide the crappy ones which can be intimidating to new modelers, so here are some of my earlier models, warts and all. Hopefully you can learn from my mistakes so you don't make the same ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsnwyexoA9E

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010
Picked up a project that I bailed on a while ago cause the number of decals started to get me down. The decals are now done and the body is cleared so it's now time to let it sit for a bit till I polish it up. I ended up clear coating the chrome plated roof of the car to seal in the decals and by a happy coincidence the scratches that where intoduced during decalling are still visible but matches whats sitting on display in the museum atm.









That front grill needs a little more work but I'm happy with how its come out so far especially given I didn't have anything but normal cotton buds to lay down the decals in the narrow section at the top of the grill.

Scut
Aug 26, 2008

Please remind me to draw more often.
Soiled Meat
The carbon fibre pattern is a decal?

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010

Scut posted:

The carbon fibre pattern is a decal?

Yeah it is. Building as many race cars as I do means that I go through quite a lot of it.

Miss Broccoli
May 1, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Are gundams welcome here

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Sure. There's also a Gunpla thread where you will get more robot-focused feedback and advice.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes
That's good timing because I wanted to cross post this Gundam I made this week.

Gundam kits are always a pleasure to put together and I really enjoy painting them up like realish AFVs instead of fancy anime colors.

I used a new (to me) product for masking the camoflage called Parafilm. I was really impressed with it. It's a stretchy plastic flim that is covered with parafin wax, when you stretch it the wax becomes slightly tacky and it can be pressed against a surface to cling there.
There's no adhesive so it won't pull up your previous layers of paint, it's ultra thin so there's no paint buildup at the edges, it's flexible and can easily be cut with a hobby knife.
The only problem is that since it's so thin and the wax is so light that you have to be careful to spray slightly away from the edge or you'll blow paint under it.

Bucnasti posted:

I had the week off and put this boy together for the Grunt Build.'






I'm pretty happy with how he turned out. I glued the bazooka into his had and it's crooked so it limits how I pose him. I have some extra hands somewhere I might change them up on him later.

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003
Just a quick PSA here. If you build airplanes of any scale and don't own a jig, you're really missing out. I bought one from Victory Models during the Avenger build and I now don't know how I ever got by without one.

Suzaku
Feb 15, 2012

Bucnasti posted:

That's good timing because I wanted to cross post this Gundam I made this week.

Gundam kits are always a pleasure to put together and I really enjoy painting them up like realish AFVs instead of fancy anime colors.

I used a new (to me) product for masking the camoflage called Parafilm. I was really impressed with it. It's a stretchy plastic flim that is covered with parafin wax, when you stretch it the wax becomes slightly tacky and it can be pressed against a surface to cling there.
There's no adhesive so it won't pull up your previous layers of paint, it's ultra thin so there's no paint buildup at the edges, it's flexible and can easily be cut with a hobby knife.
The only problem is that since it's so thin and the wax is so light that you have to be careful to spray slightly away from the edge or you'll blow paint under it.

That's fantastic. Gundams are my main thing and I love seeing these kinds of paint jobs on them.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Bucnasti posted:

I used a new (to me) product for masking the camoflage called Parafilm. I was really impressed with it. It's a stretchy plastic flim that is covered with parafin wax, when you stretch it the wax becomes slightly tacky and it can be pressed against a surface to cling there.
There's no adhesive so it won't pull up your previous layers of paint, it's ultra thin so there's no paint buildup at the edges, it's flexible and can easily be cut with a hobby knife.
The only problem is that since it's so thin and the wax is so light that you have to be careful to spray slightly away from the edge or you'll blow paint under it.
If it's the stuff they use to cover test tubes and other lab glassware, I can confirm it's awesome. And thanks for the reminder, I need to find where I stashed it.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

Pierzak posted:

If it's the stuff they use to cover test tubes and other lab glassware, I can confirm it's awesome. And thanks for the reminder, I need to find where I stashed it.

Yeah it says "Laboratory Film" on the label. I got it from Micromark, but maybe there's a better source.

MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

Any lab supply place will have it, and probably for a lot less. Also good places for small mixing cups, pipettes, etc. without the "model tool markup".

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




MrUnderbridge posted:

Any lab supply place will have it, and probably for a lot less. Also good places for small mixing cups, pipettes, etc. without the "model tool markup".

Does it leave any residue on the model?


For mixing cups, the best deal I've found is bulk clear plastic condiment cups / portion cups with lids from Amazon or a restaurant supply store. I use the cups for mixing paints for airbrushing and thinning oils for washing and the lids when I only need a little bit of paint mixed or thinned. Not the most mucho ecological method, but it is cheap and convenient.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



SkunkDuster posted:

Does it leave any residue on the model?


For mixing cups, the best deal I've found is bulk clear plastic condiment cups / portion cups with lids from Amazon or a restaurant supply store. I use the cups for mixing paints for airbrushing and thinning oils for washing and the lids when I only need a little bit of paint mixed or thinned. Not the most mucho ecological method, but it is cheap and convenient.

Soufflé cups, you can get a few hundred for like :10bux:

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




Okay mister fancy pants. You just go ahead and have your butler fetch you some Soufflé cups and the rest of us will get by with regular condiment cups.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



SkunkDuster posted:

Okay mister fancy pants. You just go ahead and have your butler fetch you some Soufflé cups and the rest of us will get by with regular condiment cups.

“Condiment cups” actually works as a search term for them on Amazon now, when I was trying to buy them several years ago the right thing didn’t come up if you didn’t use the fancy word. :v:

MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

Just don't get the styrene cups. A little lacquer thinner and you have both a mess and an "intetesting" addition to your paint mix.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something
These are the the cups you want. Perfect size, good flex so they don't crack when mixing, and they come with lids if you need to store mixes for a week or two.



https://www.amazon.com/Reditainer-Plastic-Disposable-Portion-Perfect/dp/B009VSFZC0/ref=pd_bia_nav_t_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0CTH5507EDFVNMACZC1G

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Bloody Hedgehog posted:

These are the the cups you want. Perfect size, good flex so they don't crack when mixing, and they come with lids if you need to store mixes for a week or two.



https://www.amazon.com/Reditainer-Plastic-Disposable-Portion-Perfect/dp/B009VSFZC0/ref=pd_bia_nav_t_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0CTH5507EDFVNMACZC1G

exactly these

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