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Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!

Anonymous Robot posted:

Eagle Rare is rumored to be a select pick of Buffalo Trace, so grab that when you see it.

Edit: it’s usually around $40 though

It's not rumored - it is
It's the same liquid, but aged for 10 years instead of 7-8, and aged in different sections of the warehouse
Same thing with EH Taylor

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Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





I nabbed a bottle of Eagle Rare a few months back for about $30 and while it was good I didn't like it any better than BT.

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

It's also basically single barrel, except they have some carry over when they swap barrels so some bottles contain a splash from a prior barrel preventing them from uniformly calling it "single barrel."

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!
Maybe try henry mckenna or larceny? Both should be pretty inexpensive, and larceny is wheated which would probably be something new. Henry McKennas availability seems to have gone to poo poo since it suddenly became popular of the last year or so

Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!

gwrtheyrn posted:

Maybe try henry mckenna or larceny? Both should be pretty inexpensive, and larceny is wheated which would probably be something new. Henry McKennas availability seems to have gone to poo poo since it suddenly became popular of the last year or so

I just poured some McKenna and was thinking this. It used to be everywhere for $35. Now it's uncommon and usually 45-50
Also Old Forester is close in profile to Buffalo Trace. 86, 100, and 1897 in increasing order of price

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

make's u think

Old forester 1920 just went up from $55 to $60 at my liquor store. Dammit.

CleverHans
Apr 25, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Anonymous Robot posted:

Eagle Rare is rumored to be a select pick of Buffalo Trace, so grab that when you see it.

Edit: it’s usually around $40 though

Was just about to recommend this as well. A perennial favorite of mine.

CleverHans
Apr 25, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

DoctaFun posted:

I don’t want this to come off as snobby either, but I don’t know that I’ve ever met someone who is ‘in to Canadian whisky’. It’s always either bourbon, scotch, or rye, and if a Canadian bottle gets suggested it’s always a ‘it’s really good for a Canadian whisky’.

There’s probably a lot of good Canadian whisky out there too, but it’s almost always at the bottom of the list prestige/hype wise.

That said, the crown Royal noble collection from two years ago, 13 year bourbon mash, was fantastic. The release for this year is a 16 year rye, which I’m excited to try. Not a lot of 15+ year old rye whisky out there to try, especially for $60ish!!!

Ya, Canadian whiskey is the Rodney Dangerfield of brown spirits.

That said, Forty Creek is a very tasty tipple if you can find it.

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

McKenna BiB won a couple of awards somehow and became unobtanium overnight.

Forty Creek is pretty good as far as Canadian whiskey goes. For me it was a gateway to bourbon and I haven't looked back, but drink what you like.

Quidthulhu
Dec 17, 2003

Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

My friend brought a bottle of maple Canadian whisky back from Canada and it was really good mixed in poo poo. Banging af in hot toddy's.

Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!
Holy crap, a store I bought Booker's at less than 2 months ago for $70 just put the latest batch up for $120

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

It feels like bourbon prices are going crazy lately cuz everyone is stocking up to be the lord of whiskeytown after covidpocalypse. The couple bourbon groups I'm in are full of posts showing off huge hauls with multiple of each bottle type.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Seagrams is basically vodka improved and I imagine anyone drinking it is an alcoholic. My experience with buying good whiskey for people who drink cheap whiskey is that it doesn't work out. Someone told me once they don't want to know what they're missing, another told me he doesn't want to develop a taste for prime rib on a hamburger budget. I believe both of them ended up giving away the bottles so from then on I stopped buying good booze for alkies.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
Got my hands on a bottle of Henry Mckenna 10 yr bottled in bond for Thanksgiving and had myself a taste.

It’s very nice. This particular bottle is sweet and smooth, but still has a nice, lasting warmth to it. There’s a prominent grassy note, and a phenomenally long tail to the flavor. Rich oak taste.

For the money, I would save ten bucks and go for Knob Creek single barrel reserve, which is my current favorite for its full, rich flavor and formidable heat, but there’s nothing wrong with Mckenna by any stretch. It’s a little mellower, but still a great bourbon. It’ll be more shareable at the table for that reason.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Is the Game of Thrones Lagavulin 9 any good?

Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!

Anonymous Robot posted:

For the money, I would save ten bucks and go for Knob Creek single barrel reserve, which is my current favorite for its full, rich flavor and formidable heat, but there’s nothing wrong with Mckenna by any stretch. It’s a little mellower, but still a great bourbon. It’ll be more shareable at the table for that reason.

You either paid too much for the McKenna or found a place that has a really good price for KC SiB
You usually can't go wrong with Knob Creek SiB especially if you find it under $50

That said McKenna next to regular old Knob Creek 9 year punches much higher and is worth the $5-10 premium

If you can find Elijah Craig barrel proof ($60-70 depending on location), its a good next step from those two, and a completely different beast from the regular Elijah Craig.
In the alternative you could grab Old Forester 1920 (I don't know where exactly you are, but you said New England, I know a few stores that have it for $45 - but most places its $55-60ish)

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
I paid $50 for the McKenna and I tend to find the Knob Creek bonded single barrel for around $40 (when I find it at all.) Maybe I overpaid for the former, I wouldn’t know.

Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!

Anonymous Robot posted:

I paid $50 for the McKenna and I tend to find the Knob Creek bonded single barrel for around $40 (when I find it at all.) Maybe I overpaid for the former, I wouldn’t know.

if it's the 120 proof "reserve" or "select" KC then yeah, it's a great price

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I

Deceptive Thinker posted:

if it's the 120 proof "reserve" or "select" KC then yeah, it's a great price

That’s the one, yeah. I get confused about how to refer to it because I’ve found it labeled both ways.

Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!

Anonymous Robot posted:

That’s the one, yeah. I get confused about how to refer to it because I’ve found it labeled both ways.
It's somewhat a product of them changing their labeling 3 times in 4 years
All of the SiB used to be "Single Barrel Reserve" - even the store picks

Since they dropped the age statement from the small batch in 2016 they changed it though

Now there's a new label because they returned the 9 year age statement to the small batch. So the 9 on the single barrel reserve is big again and they changed the label shape and design so the whole line is cohesive again.

Generally:
Single Barrel Select is a store barrel pick (and will list the barreled and bottled dates on it - can be anywhere from 9 years up to 15 years old)
Single Barrel Reserve is the regular offering (and I believe doesn't disclose the information other than it is over 9 years)
You may still find pre-2016 labeling bottles of both, and these were always "Single Barrel Reserve" but the store picks would have a metal sticker on them with the store information

Of course there's bottles from all 3 eras on the shelf and probably will be for a while

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Anonymous Robot posted:

I paid $50 for the McKenna and I tend to find the Knob Creek bonded single barrel for around $40 (when I find it at all.) Maybe I overpaid for the former, I wouldn’t know.

$50 for McKenna seems insane but given that it's always sold out where I used to see it, I'm not really surprised. It's also not nearly as unreasonable as a lot of the prices out there these days. I still haven't bothered with buying any since it went from being a fun, highly variable little single barrel unknown to try on occasion into hype juice.

Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!

Vox Nihili posted:

$50 for McKenna seems insane but given that it's always sold out where I used to see it, I'm not really surprised. It's also not nearly as unreasonable as a lot of the prices out there these days. I still haven't bothered with buying any since it went from being a fun, highly variable little single barrel unknown to try on occasion into hype juice.

McKenna is just watered down ECBP taken out of the barrels 2 years too early unblended

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Deceptive Thinker posted:

McKenna is just watered down ECBP taken out of the barrels 2 years too early unblended

I mean, ECBP does cost more and is even harder to find. But yeah, that's pretty much why I have five or six bottles of ECBP and zero bottles of McKenna sitting around these days.

Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!

Vox Nihili posted:

I mean, ECBP does cost more and is even harder to find.

It's actually easier to find around here (incredibly so, I've heard ECBP and Larceny BP aren't even technically "allocated bottles" in RI)
I could walk into nearly any store around here and see 3-5 bottles on the shelf of one or more of the 2020 releases for $65-70 and know some stores that will often have it at $60

That's also why I only have 3 bottles of it in my cabinet right now, but it's the only whiskey I regularly keep more than 2 of other than my Four Roses privaye recipe collection

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





Bought a bottle of Black Velvet in my ongoing quest to try garbage, and it isn't actually that bad. Very one note, just some caramel and not much else but it's really chewy and doesn't have any weird or off flavors. Seems like it'd be good for slipping in coffee or cocoa in the winter.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






It smells like nail polish remover and tastes like rubbing alcohol to me, tbh.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Deceptive Thinker posted:

It's actually easier to find around here (incredibly so, I've heard ECBP and Larceny BP aren't even technically "allocated bottles" in RI)
I could walk into nearly any store around here and see 3-5 bottles on the shelf of one or more of the 2020 releases for $65-70 and know some stores that will often have it at $60

That's also why I only have 3 bottles of it in my cabinet right now, but it's the only whiskey I regularly keep more than 2 of other than my Four Roses privaye recipe collection

That's absolutely insane. I can still bump into some by chance if I'm actively looking around here but it's approaching the same unobtainium tier as Stagg Jr. at this point.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


This week’s “stuff on sale” purchases. For the first time I’ll simultaneously have Laphroaig, Ardbeg, and Lagavulin. The Macallan 12 Sherry Oak I’ve not had but it was $65 so I figured worth a try. The Port Charlotte is also new to me but I’ll probably like it.

The Calvert Woodley Springbank 23 was $190. I really don’t know if I’ll like it but in terms of age vs price, it seems worth the experiment.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009




I got the Russell’s Reserve and High West for election night and the Willet last week.

The High West has some nice spice up front but a quick finish.

The Willet has a slightly slower but fuller arrival. I’d say it’s strictly better than the High West but there’s something off about the finish, like a cheap bourbon.

The Russell’s Reserve has the slowest arrival of all 3, not as full as the Willet, but the best finish. It also has the best nose. I like it the most of the 3 but it definitely has flaws.

I think I might try some less popular ryes next round. I also need to get a bottle of Bulleit to have as a reference point.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


I decided to break open the Port Charlotte and Macallan 12 Sherry Oak. Still not sure if I want to keep the independent Springbank 23 since it was $210 after tax and I’m not sure it’ll suit my palette.

Port Charlotte 10 has a very nice nose. Flavor is well-balanced, but I would call it Islay-light. If you wanted to get someone into peat, this would be an easy introduction, but as a peat fan, it leaves a bit to be desired.

Macallan 12 Sherry Oak has a nice nose. Pleasant and sweet taste but even at 43% abv it tastes watered down, almost like a dessert wine. It tastes like something you could pound which, fair enough, but definitely not for the price.

Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Nov 22, 2020

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Quiet Feet posted:

Bought a bottle of Black Velvet in my ongoing quest to try garbage, and it isn't actually that bad. Very one note, just some caramel and not much else but it's really chewy and doesn't have any weird or off flavors. Seems like it'd be good for slipping in coffee or cocoa in the winter.


My first (only) exposure was at a hillbilly party I stumbled across while looking for someone, it was surprisingly inoffensive. Both, to the inevitable question. I had about half a red solo cup of BV, haven't had it since. For just a little more you could get Evan Williams or Ancient Ancient Age.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
Anybody recommend a good white corn whiskey? I enjoyed a bottle of George Dickel White #1 I got at their distillery, but I killed it and the state agency that controls all liquour distribution in our (anti-government, socialist hating) state doesn't stock it. I'm not making out of state trips while the world is burning, so are there any other brands out there worth it?

https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/white-whiskeymoonshine/george-dickel-white-1/p/137871750

Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!

GD_American posted:

Anybody recommend a good white corn whiskey? I enjoyed a bottle of George Dickel White #1 I got at their distillery, but I killed it and the state agency that controls all liquour distribution in our (anti-government, socialist hating) state doesn't stock it. I'm not making out of state trips while the world is burning, so are there any other brands out there worth it?

https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/white-whiskeymoonshine/george-dickel-white-1/p/137871750

The only things remotely similar I know that is somewhat widely available and decent is buffalo trace mash #1 white dog, but that only comes in 375ml and is like $20 for that.
Other than that, some small craft distilleries often release white dog and unaged whiskeys but those products are often also only available at the distillery itself

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette
Found a store that was selling Old Tub. Wow, if you’re a Old Grand Dad BiB fan then you should pick this up. It’s a different flavor profile, but same in spirit.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





wormil posted:

My first (only) exposure was at a hillbilly party I stumbled across while looking for someone, it was surprisingly inoffensive. Both, to the inevitable question. I had about half a red solo cup of BV, haven't had it since. For just a little more you could get Evan Williams or Ancient Ancient Age.

Yeah I'm definitely not going to spend a ton of time defending it but for bottom shelf it exceeds expectations.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


I want a little crazy today. The Evan William Single Barrel was matured to 7 yr 10 mo and the Elijah Craig is a store pick single barrel. I’m not much of a bourbon guy but they were $24 and $26 respectively so I figured worth trying.

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


Josh Lyman posted:

I want a little crazy today. The Evan William Single Barrel was matured to 7 yr 10 mo and the Elijah Craig is a store pick single barrel. I’m not much of a bourbon guy but they were $24 and $26 respectively so I figured worth trying.



And are you just trying to be coy about your huge supply of clorox wipes, Mr. McDuck?

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Nth Doctor posted:

And are you just trying to be coy about your huge supply of clorox wipes, Mr. McDuck?
Truly the most valuable item in the photo.

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

Nth Doctor posted:

And are you just trying to be coy about your huge supply of clorox wipes, Mr. McDuck?

fuckin this, man. It's the only thing that I still can't reliably find around here.

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DoctaFun
Dec 12, 2005

Dammit Francis!

Josh Lyman posted:

I want a little crazy today. The Evan William Single Barrel was matured to 7 yr 10 mo and the Elijah Craig is a store pick single barrel. I’m not much of a bourbon guy but they were $24 and $26 respectively so I figured worth trying.



I love EW single barrel, for the price it’s tough to beat!

I just traded for a B520 batch of EC barrel proof, it’s been getting great reviews(even relative to other batches) on Reddit so I figured what the heck. I’ll try to remember to stop back and post a review.

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