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Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Ferrule posted:

Just showed my kids Ghostbusters for the first time and my boy noticed something I never did.

When the three are in the hotel going after Slimer, the housekeeper comes around the corner and they turn around and blast her cart. There's a bunch of rolls of toilet paper on fire. While the 'busters discuss splitting up, etc, you can see the housekeeper in the background on her hands and knees with a spray bottle trying to put out the little flames.

I live for Egon looking down to find his mark while they're shooting their commercial.

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God Hole
Mar 2, 2016

Tumble posted:

The settings are just vehicles for the stories, sure, but Cameron is a turbosperg so he's probably thought about this stuff as much as his fans. He's fun to listen to, lots of little things have untold stories to him. Michael Mann is similar, if you listen to his commentary he shares a lot of character backstory that never comes up on screen. Like when you think of an actor saying "What's my motivation?" Mann'll have some.

Anyways... apart from the aliens that lay their babies in your body and then the babies pop out of your stomach, were the conditions all that terrible on the colony? I mean we don't see most of it but parents were willing to bring their kids there. It's a big place, we just see the industrial part. In one of the cuts they show the whole family going on a lovely ride as well as other stuff going on before the aliens hug everybody to death and it looked alright, I'd assume they have a decent living area too. There's even a kid that's got a Big Wheel. A Big Wheel!

(Also, there's a part in that scene that kind of cracks me up. When they first find that alien ship the dad says "Oh we scored big this time!" which sort of implies that they have some sort of salvage rule or something on planets too. Like, Weyland owns all the ships man, how you gonna get that alien thing off the planet; they just gonna let you keep that thing? Maybe they have a reward system in place or something, I dunno.)

Even if it's kind of the "Same poo poo, different day", what's shown in Aliens is still not bad at all. That powerloader is pretty sweet, it's blue-collar but there's nothing wrong with that and it's actually not a bad thing that their society still has value for it, really. The rest of the spaceships facilities are spacious and decent as well, so while Weyland is obviously a greedy and somewhat irresponsible corporation they also at least don't seem to treat their employees like poo poo. Most of the time.

pretty sure weyland-yutani sent that family to investigate the ship after hearing ripley's account of the aliens that kill you by laying eggs in your tummy.

so already the status quo for everyone on that planet is that the corporation that owns everything necessary for you and your family to live (as well as the means by which you could ever leave, an incredible power imbalance) is willing to expose 100% of the colonist-employees on that planet (unknowingly!) to what is by firsthand account an incredibly deadly alien species that wiped out all of the employees on another, different vessel that they also owned.

cool, cool. i would love to live this way. i love you elon.

God Hole has a new favorite as of 04:33 on Nov 16, 2020

Flint_Paper
Jun 7, 2004

This isn't cool at all Looshkin! These are dark forces you're titting about with!

Tumble posted:

Weyland is [...] a [...] somewhat irresponsible corporation

Lmao

minato
Jun 7, 2004

cutty cain't hang, say 7-up.
Taco Defender

God Hole posted:

cool, cool. i would love to live this way. i love you elon.
There's precedent for car tycoons trying to setup their vision of an ideal society in a hostile environment, so we know how Elon's Mars city will play out.

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!
I think it was Red Mars that got into the physical complexities of living on Mars and according to that book, you'd have to live several feet underground in order to avoid constant exposure to stellar radiation due to the lack of a magnetosphere. No thank you.

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001

Jestery posted:

Another subtle moment is that at one point Dan Ackroyd received fellatio from a ghost

Is this what actually happens in the movie though?

I know at one point it was written and shot to be clear that he’s getting a BJ from a ghost. But they cut it way down in the movie, to the point where I always thought Ray was having a wet dream about a ghost, rather than a ghost actually blowing him.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

OldSenileGuy posted:

Is this what actually happens in the movie though?

I know at one point it was written and shot to be clear that he’s getting a BJ from a ghost. But they cut it way down in the movie, to the point where I always thought Ray was having a wet dream about a ghost, rather than a ghost actually blowing him.

His pants unzip and then he makes a face that has a pretty universal meaning, not much ambiguity.

Karma Tornado
Dec 21, 2007

The worst kind of tornado.

is there a tremendous difference between "is physically getting his dick sucked by a spectre" and "is dreaming about getting his dick sucked by a spectre so good that he's jizzing into the waking world," really? like enough of one to quibble over

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Could've been a handy. A very cold handy.

plainswalker75
Feb 22, 2003

Pigs are smarter than Bears, but they can't ride motorcycles
Hair Elf

Basebf555 posted:

His pants unzip and then he makes a face that has a pretty universal meaning, not much ambiguity.

The original scene as written and shot has him getting blown by a ghost in an old civil war fort (if you look closely, he's wearing an outfit with giant epaulettes) but the movie clearly shows them sleeping at the firehouse and then uses a classic wavy dream sequence fade so the "canon" interpretation is that it's just a dream.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

Escobarbarian posted:

Imagine still being mad about Random Access Memories in 2020

Were people pissed about it? I picked it up when it came out and really enjoyed the whole funk angle they were going for. OP is correct the Contact is the best song on the album, but I will entertain dissent there.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Warbird posted:

Were people pissed about it? I picked it up when it came out and really enjoyed the whole funk angle they were going for. OP is correct the Contact is the best song on the album, but I will entertain dissent there.

electronica dweebs wanted it to be electronica

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

plainswalker75 posted:

The original scene as written and shot has him getting blown by a ghost in an old civil war fort (if you look closely, he's wearing an outfit with giant epaulettes) but the movie clearly shows them sleeping at the firehouse and then uses a classic wavy dream sequence fade so the "canon" interpretation is that it's just a dream.

My only question years ago was whether it WAS a blowjob, or just *ghost does thing that causes an orgasm*, but before disappearing, she does move her head down to be level with it, so, y'know...

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
The subtle thing is, that ghost hummer is actually a subtle clue about the happy mood slime in ghostbusters 2.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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The mood slime is literally entirely Akroyd's jizz. A river of it.

edit both in the film it is his character's jizz and the prop used on-set is entirely Dan Akroyd, the actor's, jizz

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




The biohazard waste cleanup effort is still ongoing today, that's why you can't go up into the statue of liberty's hand anymore. For some reason that's what turned him on the most

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

You're not sleeping with it, are you, Ray?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
A lot of things worse than the Stay-Puff marshmallow man could have popped into Ray's head.





Ok...so she's a dog.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

Rev. Bleech_ posted:

I live for Egon looking down to find his mark while they're shooting their commercial.

The commercial bit is great for all three of them. Egon is super focused on being technically correct, naturally. Ray has obviously been practicing because he's an enthusiastic man child. And Peter doesn't give a gently caress at all.

Actors train to be naturalistic and ignore the camera, so it can be interesting to see them playing their characters being unnatural in front of one.

Tumble
Jun 24, 2003
I'm not thinking of anything!

plainswalker75 posted:

The original scene as written and shot has him getting blown by a ghost in an old civil war fort (if you look closely, he's wearing an outfit with giant epaulettes) but the movie clearly shows them sleeping at the firehouse and then uses a classic wavy dream sequence fade so the "canon" interpretation is that it's just a dream.

yea but they're obviously just trying to retcon that because it's less PC now to get a ghost BJ, although it seemed consensual so it should be ok. In the movie it's in the middle of a montage that doesn't allude to any other dream-related stuff or any fakery. Or at least, it doesn't insinuate that it didn't happen at all, since the series has other people who's minds get controlled/visited by other ghosts as well. So even if the ghost was in his dream it doesn't mean that it wasn't real, it would mean that the ghost really was in his head giving him head.


God Hole posted:

pretty sure weyland-yutani sent that family to investigate the ship after hearing ripley's account of the aliens that kill you by laying eggs in your tummy.

so already the status quo for everyone on that planet is that the corporation that owns everything necessary for you and your family to live (as well as the means by which you could ever leave, an incredible power imbalance) is willing to expose 100% of the colonist-employees on that planet (unknowingly!) to what is by firsthand account an incredibly deadly alien species that wiped out all of the employees on another, different vessel that they also owned.

cool, cool. i would love to live this way. i love you elon.

It was Burke who ordered the colonist to go check it out. I'm not actually to sure how involved Weyland was in the Hadley's Hope oopsie, since they were quite skeptical of Ripley when they're talking to her in the beginning. It's more Burke who set the whole thing in motion, the rest of the company had no interest in what she was saying, they were just upset she destroyed the ship. Which seems callous and horrible, but from their perspective she's talking nonsense about a creature they've got no record of existing, and they'd been exploring for another 57 years while she was napping.

I'm not too sure if there is as big a power imbalance as you're saying, it seems more like regular corporate bureaucratic bullshit, which is of course capable of creating power imbalances but it's also not like there is anybody (besides Burke) acting out of malice. In the directors cut the family that finds the alien first radios in and wants reassurance that their claim will be honored for finding it, and they get that reassurance. That doesn't sound like the kind of place that would shut the air off for getting mouthy or demanding raises.

As long as I didn't have to work with Burke's slimey rear end, I could see taking a job with Weyland, is what I'm saying.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



When did they retcon Weyland-Yutani to "The corporation has always known about Xenomorphs and always wanted to try to tame the untameable killing machines for fun and profit stupid-rear end unexplained reasons? Was that just the AvP movies or did it happen earlier and I just blissfully forgot?

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
Wow I guess people will bootlick even fictional corporations.

Astounding.

Tumble
Jun 24, 2003
I'm not thinking of anything!
you just mad because you thought it was like "ahah! but the REAL MONSTER is actually mankind!" but it turns out the real monster is the xenomorph after all

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

plainswalker75 posted:

The original scene as written and shot has him getting blown by a ghost in an old civil war fort (if you look closely, he's wearing an outfit with giant epaulettes) but the movie clearly shows them sleeping at the firehouse and then uses a classic wavy dream sequence fade so the "canon" interpretation is that it's just a dream.

Fort Detmerring! A lot of the missing footage got released last year


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPdA3NBt_EU

There was a whole subplot about Ray getting a ghost girlfriend that was cut out

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Randalor posted:

When did they retcon Weyland-Yutani to "The corporation has always known about Xenomorphs and always wanted to try to tame the untameable killing machines for fun and profit stupid-rear end unexplained reasons? Was that just the AvP movies or did it happen earlier and I just blissfully forgot?

In the first Alien movie the whole plot is that Ash is required to bring an alien back to Earth so the corporation can study it / profit from it. I don't think it's explicit that they knew it was out there, but they diverted the Nostromo to go pick it up.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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HopperUK posted:

In the first Alien movie the whole plot is that Ash is required to bring an alien back to Earth so the corporation can study it / profit from it. I don't think it's explicit that they knew it was out there, but they diverted the Nostromo to go pick it up.

It wasn't a standing order, the Company explicitly knew there was an alien lifeform on LV-426. The evidence is that they replaced the Nostromo's science officer with Ash two days before it set off on its last voyage.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Dunno if it helps or hinders anything, but the listing for the ghost who may or may not have given a hummer is called "Dream Ghost".

So, either he was asleep, or she was a dream girl (and surprisingly, turns out she was a playboy model).

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Warbird posted:

Were people pissed about it? I picked it up when it came out and really enjoyed the whole funk angle they were going for. OP is correct the Contact is the best song on the album, but I will entertain dissent there.

Ah HA! vindicated at last!

Although I was and evidentially still annoyed because it came off the back of their amazing score for Tron Legacy. As an old meme described "what we expected (exploding transformers), and what we got (sad robot from hitchhikers guide to galaxy)"

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Humphreys posted:

Ah HA! vindicated at last!

Although I was and evidentially still annoyed because it came off the back of their amazing score for Tron Legacy. As an old meme described "what we expected (exploding transformers), and what we got (sad robot from hitchhikers guide to galaxy)"

The TRON Legacy OST is the only good thing Daft Punk ever did. Air were much better.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Jedit posted:

It wasn't a standing order, the Company explicitly knew there was an alien lifeform on LV-426. The evidence is that they replaced the Nostromo's science officer with Ash two days before it set off on its last voyage.

Ah thanks I had forgotten that detail.

Sand Monster
Apr 13, 2008

Krispy Wafer posted:

A lot of things worse than the Stay-Puff marshmallow man could have popped into Ray's head.

I just want to know why it didn't turn into J. Edgar Hoover, because that's what Venkman thought of first.

Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011

A friendly little mouse!

Jedit posted:

The TRON Legacy OST is the only good thing Daft Punk ever did. Air were much better.

You just don't get the power of Funk.

MichiganCubbie
Dec 11, 2008

I love that I have an erection...

...that doesn't involve homeless people.

Random Access Memories is a great album. We need more new Disco.

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




Sand Monster posted:

I just want to know why it didn't turn into J. Edgar Hoover, because that's what Venkman thought of first.

The whole point of Peter Venkman's character is that he can say something without ever thinking about it

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen
:lol: dreaming about getting fellatio from a beautiful ghost lady instead of Slimer, who could easily swallow your dick & balls simultaneously & tongue you to an intense ectoplasmic orgasm.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Android Apocalypse posted:

:lol: dreaming about getting fellatio from a beautiful ghost lady instead of Slimer, who could easily swallow your dick & balls simultaneously & tongue you to an intense ectoplasmic orgasm.

Probably a bad plan, that’s not a mouthful of hotdogs at the end of the movie.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
So that nice man had a hot dog cart full of severed penises?

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen
I mean, I don't have regular genitals but a bunch of small penises that can easily be mistaken for a bunch of hot dogs.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Pope Corky the IX posted:

So that nice man had a hot dog cart full of severed penises?

New York in ‘84 was a land of contrasts.

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Jan 24, 2005

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Android Apocalypse posted:

I mean, I don't have regular genitals but a bunch of small penises that can easily be mistaken for a bunch of hot dogs.

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