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If you just want a single speed and are fine with building it up, pick up any old frame and go nuts.
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I could see $1,900 with quality name brand parts including rack and fenders. You could knock off a few hundred by going with cheaper parts or trawling ebay, but it's not likely to get down to the cost of a high volume complete like the All City.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 08:08 |
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Isn't the steamroller frame $500? $1400 for parts sounds like a lot unless you picked expensive wheels.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 10:26 |
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Building up with msrp parts always seems to cost at least $1000 more than a comparable complete bike. Part of that is OEM pricing on parts, part of that is the complete build cheaping out on parts that you wouldn't when buying it yourself.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 17:00 |
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It adds up pretty quick: Frame & fork: $500 Wheels, skewers, tires, tubes/tubeless: $400 Headset, stem, bars, tape: $200 Chainset, pedals, bb, chain, cog: $300 Levers, cables, brakes $150 Saddle, seatpost, clamp: $150 Rack, fenders: $200 You can quibble here and there but that's how a $500 frameset becomes a $1900 complete build.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 18:26 |
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Okay, thanks! Yeah my first instinct was that it seemed high for the frame, but then I read through the invoice and there’s just a few more components that go into even a single speed than I accounted for. If only I still lived above the the bike mechanic who knew lots of people who owned too many bikes. Now I need to decide if I can justify the cost. Which shouldn’t be hard because not having a bike is lame as hell.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 19:10 |
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Yeah complete bikes are always a better deal unless you already have the parts lying around. I've got a Litespeed Firenze with a SRAM Rival groupset that I like. Two problems - 1) It's an early 2000's bike so the clearances for tires are built for like 23-25c tops which makes it a rough ride and 2) the wheel spacing makes it extremely squirrelly. I want to get a new bike, so my question is: can I keep the group set and slap it o n any modern frame? How do I know what's compatible. I would also like to switch to a disc brake with a riser bar. Also what's the state of bike materials. I hear Aluminum is coming back with hydro-formed frames? Are they now outpacing steel? Is TI still relevant?
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 19:17 |
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What is a good floor pump recommendation that has both a digital gauge and a good fuss free chuck? I've been using a lezyne road drive or such but it's gauge is kinda crap (especially with my mtb) that I'm always needing to use a separate gauge post fact to dial in the right pressure, I'd like to eliminate that extra step.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 19:45 |
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What’s your budget, if it’s approaching anything over $100 just get a compressor.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 19:57 |
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I live in an apartment and want something compact that I can also take in the car to trails.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 21:00 |
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paberu posted:What is a good floor pump recommendation that has both a digital gauge and a good fuss free chuck? I'm not a specialized fanboy but the specialized floor pump is just about perfect. https://www.specialized.com/us/en/air-tool-comp-floor-pump/p/174143?color=277400-174143&searchText=47220-2100
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 21:08 |
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paberu posted:What is a good floor pump recommendation that has both a digital gauge and a good fuss free chuck? If you're going to be doing presta and schrader I would pick one with 2 chucks. I avoid the combo ones because I've had issues with them especially on my bikes that take schrader @ 100PSI. As far as a digital gauge I don't think they're more accurate, just more of a pain in the rear end to maintain. If you need high accuracy, especially at low pressures I would get a separate gauge instead of an integrated one. I have a slime brand dial gauge for that; one for low pressure that does 0-30PSI and one for high pressure that does 30-200 PSI. I don't think most gauges are going to be super accurate for both very high and very low ranges.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 21:13 |
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DevCore posted:Yeah complete bikes are always a better deal unless you already have the parts lying around. You probably could slap the group on any modern rim brake frame, BUT: it'll be impossible to sell that bike as frame only if you scavenge the parts off it - better to sell it complete and get a complete new bike. If you're looking at going disc you should be going hydro disc, which means you need most of a new groupset anyway. All materials can be good and can also be lovely. Cheap aluminum is better than cheap steel. Good aluminum is just as nice to ride as good steel, but obviously has different characteristics that may or may not make it the right choice for you. Ti is relevant in so far as dentists still exist. Carbon is good but there's a floor of pricepoint that's worth considering, and some applications where it really doesn't make sense.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 21:15 |
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e.pilot posted:
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 21:19 |
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Salt Fish posted:If you're going to be doing presta and schrader I would pick one with 2 chucks. I avoid the combo ones because I've had issues with them especially on my bikes that take schrader @ 100PSI. As far as a digital gauge I don't think they're more accurate, just more of a pain in the rear end to maintain. If you need high accuracy, especially at low pressures I would get a separate gauge instead of an integrated one. I have a slime brand dial gauge for that; one for low pressure that does 0-30PSI and one for high pressure that does 30-200 PSI. I don't think most gauges are going to be super accurate for both very high and very low ranges. I currently use a smartgauge D2, but it's really annoying over pumping both tires and then bleeding them out with it. I'm hoping to remove that need by getting an easy to read digital gauge so I can just quickly get the tires where needed and head out. My current pump's range is 0 - 220 psi and that's just waaay too big for a mtb that needs something in low 20's and a road bike that sits around low 80's. The D2 gauge is kinda fiddly to use too so I don't mind spending some money to remove the annoyance.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 21:32 |
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JHomer722 posted:Okay, thanks! Yeah my first instinct was that it seemed high for the frame, but then I read through the invoice and there’s just a few more components that go into even a single speed than I accounted for. If only I still lived above the the bike mechanic who knew lots of people who owned too many bikes. Not sure if this was relevant to your move, but packing and shipping a bike might only run you 150-250, depending on how much a shop charges to pack, and then to ship through BikeFlights (intermediary using Fedex).
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 21:58 |
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My bad, I didn't read closely enough and glossed over that you're looking for a digital gauge. I agree with prior takes that a digital gauge isn't inherently more accurate than anything else, but if you really want one, I'd probably go for the digital Topeak JoeBlow. All the lezynes put the readout all the way at the bottom, harder to see, and also their chuck loves to unscrew valve cores. Silca puts it at the top but is irrationally expensive.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 22:02 |
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kimbo305 posted:Not sure if this was relevant to your move, but packing and shipping a bike might only run you 150-250, depending on how much a shop charges to pack, and then to ship through BikeFlights (intermediary using Fedex). That’s good info, but the bottom bracket is loctited in so I don’t think it can be disassembled, easily at least. I bought the bike used and rode it through 7 Boston winters, so it was nearing retirement anyway. I was thankfully able to stash it at my parents place, so at least I’ll have something to ride when I go back to visit.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 22:22 |
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bicievino posted:I agree with prior takes that a digital gauge isn't inherently more accurate than anything else, but if you really want one, I'd probably go for the digital Topeak JoeBlow. All the lezynes put the readout all the way at the bottom, harder to see, and also their chuck loves to unscrew valve cores. Silca puts it at the top but is irrationally expensive. Joeblow Pro Digital looks to fit the bill, seems availability is non existent atm on it.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 22:50 |
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bicievino posted:You probably could slap the group on any modern rim brake frame, BUT: Thanks, yeah that was my guess. I'd have a slapdash of individual components that I'd have trouble selling and would need to buy the remaining pieces. I was wanting too going with hybrid disc brakes (cable actuated - hydro powered and localized at the caliper housing). So Ti isn't much of a player anymore? Is there a reason? I thought it was a "best of" aluminum/steel/carbon material.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 22:53 |
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DevCore posted:Thanks, yeah that was my guess. I'd have a slapdash of individual components that I'd have trouble selling and would need to buy the remaining pieces. I mean, it's fine? You can make a really nice custom bike with it. You can make a really nice stock bike with it. It's fallen out of favor for roadies because you can't make a stiff, light, and aero bike with it, the way you can with carbon or (kinda) hydroformed alu (hard to get all three with alu). The big issue is aero since it's harder to do shaped tubes. But it's great for gravel and cx and other things where aerodynamics aren't such a big deal. There's no getting around the fact that it's much more expensive than aluminum and steel with only relatively small improvements in function (durability, theoretically, weight - maybe a tad), and is usually slightly more expensive and at best a side-grade to a carbon frame for the same application.
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 00:03 |
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For anyone thinking about doing a century: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS4GZCUWgcA
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 01:25 |
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I'm sliding into a "european cycling documentary" phase. Anyone have recommendations? Here's what I've watched so far: The Stars and the Water Carriers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUIr9LG1juw A Sunday in Hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxBTVU9JDrA I'll accept suggestions where every single man doesn't have huge sideburns and Eddie Merckx, but both are appreciated.
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 03:09 |
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Anyone else scroll through facebook marketplace from time to time to see what ridiculous bike stuff comes up? I was struck by the discrepancy between these two listings: Free: About an hours drive away on a farm somewhere. No mention of what size or other photos, or any other information other than that the tires are flat. Tempting to ask/ just go get it, but I don't really need it. New! Never used!
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 03:54 |
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Oldsrocket_27 posted:
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 04:02 |
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Salt Fish posted:For anyone thinking about doing a century: I’ve put a huge seatpost on a BMX to try to pedal it seated. It felt pretty wrong, possibly because it still wasn’t high enough. I would not do that for 100mi; that’s for sure.
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 04:25 |
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bicievino posted:I mean, it's fine? It's great (but expensive) for gravel, hardtail and commuting bikes.
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 11:20 |
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Weembles posted:I'll accept suggestions where every single man doesn't have huge sideburns and Eddie Merckx, but both are appreciated. Not all are what you are looking for, but I liked these: Sunday in hell Hell on wheels Slaying the Badger Icarus Wonderful Losers Lance Rising from ashes Bicycle dreams Pantani: The Accidental Death of a Cyclist Chasing legends My italian secret Also a good short series on Netflix: El dia menos pensado
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 14:07 |
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El Laucha posted:Not all are what you are looking for, but I liked these: This is awesome. Thanks!
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 16:58 |
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Weembles posted:I'm sliding into a "european cycling documentary" phase. Anyone have recommendations? The 'De Ronde' behind the scenes mini-docs about the Tour of Flanders are great. They did one for editions #100 - 103 and they're all enthralling. Lots of footage showing how the race is put on and raced. The DS in-car footage is great, and even knowing the outcomes of all the races, I was on the edge of my seat watching it all unfold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFqfqO6CQko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNpvsJ3_OJo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8iHLADDMKQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpiFLhmMFNk
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tylertfb posted:The 'De Ronde' behind the scenes mini-docs about the Tour of Flanders are great. They did one for editions #100 - 103 and they're all enthralling. Lots of footage showing how the race is put on and raced. The DS in-car footage is great, and even knowing the outcomes of all the races, I was on the edge of my seat watching it all unfold: Those are SO GOOD.
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 18:55 |
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I like the long-form videos from GCN as good background noise. The Dirty Kanza was very enjoyable. Ymmv! EDIT: I was totally wrong! It was this group: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgBYSXh3V0Q
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Cannon_Fodder posted:I like the long-form videos from GCN as good background noise. The EF films are well made and have been my first foray into cycling films. Lachlan Morton seems like a cool dude. Anza Borrego fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Nov 17, 2020 |
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tylertfb posted:The 'De Ronde' behind the scenes mini-docs about the Tour of Flanders are great. They did one for editions #100 - 103 and they're all enthralling. Lots of footage showing how the race is put on and raced. The DS in-car footage is great, and even knowing the outcomes of all the races, I was on the edge of my seat watching it all unfold:
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 22:42 |
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bicievino posted:I mean, it's fine? Thanks again! Aero isn't a huge concern for me. This is primarily going to be a town traveler (1-10 mile trips) and occasionally some longer joy rides (30-100 miles). My biggest concerns are comfort (in both fit - has always been difficult for me and longevity), weight and diversity.
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Anza Borrego posted:The EF films are well made and have been my first foray into cycling films. Lachlan Morton seems like a cool dude. The only thing that bothers me with Lachlan is the amount of times he says "like" in every sentence. Dude is a monster though. His Badlands race time is unbelievable compared to anyone else.
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# ? Nov 17, 2020 23:26 |
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Been wanting to do this ride for a while, feels good to have it done. A whopping 938ft of elevation, all from bridges or levees- lots of these roads are below sea level, particularly Old Highway 51 on the west side of the lake. Luckily we didn't have to ride through any flooding over there or in the Rigolets. In the end it actually felt easier than I was expecting. Wore the trash kit, ate lots of trash, rode not-very-fast. Salt Fish posted:For anyone thinking about doing a century: I haven't checked his channel in years, awesome to see him going for it. That 15 to 100 mile ramp sounds pretty brutal. a loathsome bird fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Nov 18, 2020 |
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a loathsome bird posted:Been wanting to do this ride for a while, feels good to have it done. A whopping 938ft of elevation, all from bridges or levees- lots of these roads are below sea level, particularly Old Highway 51 on the west side of the lake. Luckily we didn't have to ride through any flooding over there or in the Rigolets. Wow, awesome ride.
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a loathsome bird posted:Been wanting to do this ride for a while, feels good to have it done. A whopping 938ft of elevation, all from bridges or levees- lots of these roads are below sea level, particularly Old Highway 51 on the west side of the lake. Luckily we didn't have to ride through any flooding over there or in the Rigolets. I’m grew up in Baton Rouge, this seems like a cool ride. Definitely the right time of year for it. Nice work!
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:Hook me up with some favs, pretty please https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KPJ2jAW3yA2Y-YK9IQoSFB2l5e0N02Oq?usp=sharing does this work????
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