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Darchangel posted:One of the replies on Twitter: Unfinished (and wrong) 6R4  
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Only reason I want BMW to continue to exist at this point is to ensure a steady supply of spare parts for my E34 and E39 And maybe to buy an M2 with good consciousness when they have gotten cheap.
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Nov 16, 2020 18:12
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The important question about the BMW is how many of those horrible no tactile feel buttons have subscription requirements to use them.
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Nov 16, 2020 18:18
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xzzy posted:The important question about the BMW is how many of those horrible no tactile feel buttons have subscription requirements to use them. Well we already know for a fact no BMW owner is ever going to use the indicators so we can scratch that off the list already.
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Darchangel posted:One of the replies on Twitter: Olympic Mathlete posted:Unfinished (and wrong) 6R4 More like BADMAN
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Uthor posted:I mean, death per mile hasn't exactly been all that great for most of the last 120 years, kinda hard to learn from your mistakes if you don't survive them. For aircraft, the regulatory bodies take the position that crashes aren't inevitable, and every one represents at least one issue that can be fixed. As a result, there's been work on crazy specific subjects, like what typefaces to use for gauges to maximize readability in a high vibration environment, and where to put the page breaks in checklists to minimize the chance of certain steps being skipped. I've read about hospitals taking that approach with infections following surgery, and succeeding in drastically reducing risks. You'd think that something that kills as many people as cars would get some kind of attention, but lol America. Airline level of safety probably isn't attainable for cars, but it's absurd how there can be ongoing, obvious, low hanging fruit type issues like always-lit dashboards disguising whether you actually have your headlights on and yet nothing is done about it.
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Nov 16, 2020 19:02
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Airline-level safety for cars is impossible for a variety of reasons. But a nice first step would be to mandate that drivers pass regular tests and maintain currency, as is required for airline pilots. Even private pilots have to do a flight review every two years, which is officially not a test in that there are no explicit standards, but it might as well be because if the instructor you do it with doesn't like your flying and refuses to sign you off, you're grounded. I say we retest every licensed driver every 5 years (every 3 when you're above 70) -- just have them do the exact same driving test as a new driver, with the same standards. If you fail, your license is revoked until you can come back and pass. If you score in the bottom 25% based on last year's scores, you have to attend a weekend driver's ed course to keep your license (but don't have to repeat the test). Sagebrush for president 2024
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madeintaipei posted:Muppet skin interior. Colors like that remind me of old candy & bubblegum from childhood, especially the watermelon variants. Always had a bright green outside & red or pink in the middle.
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Combat Theory posted:Only reason I want BMW to continue to exist at this point is to ensure a steady supply of spare parts for my E34 and E39 Hell yeah the M2 is one of the few BMWs I really long for. tuo fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Nov 16, 2020 |
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Nov 16, 2020 20:31
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Sagebrush posted:I say we retest every licensed driver every 5 years (every 3 when you're above 70) [...] If you score in the bottom 25% based on last year's scores, you have to attend a weekend driver's ed course to keep your license (but don't have to repeat the test). So you're saying that every year, we're going to put 5% of every existing driver on the road in a weekend course? Apparently there's about 230 million drivers in the US so we're looking at 10 million people in the course every year. According to https://hedgescompany.com/blog/2018/10/number-of-licensed-drivers-usa/, the 2010s have seen about 1% growth in driver population each year, so we'd have 10 times as many people taking remedial driver's ed as we would first-timers (now, as a driver in America, god knows they could probably use it).
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Nov 16, 2020 20:47
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My platform goes in the other direction, we make an amendment to the Constitution that guarantees the right to drive cars like your right to own a gun. Let Stevie Wonder finally take his Rolls-Royce on public roads. Just like you can legally shoot in national forests and on BLM land, you can now do powerslides and burnouts in them too. Things like monster trucks and killdozers require a special permit of course.
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Ror posted:Things like monster trucks and killdozers require a special permit of course. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!
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Nov 16, 2020 21:11
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High-capacity minivans
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Pham Nuwen posted:So you're saying that every year, we're going to put 5% of every existing driver on the road in a weekend course? Apparently there's about 230 million drivers in the US so we're looking at 10 million people in the course every year. According to https://hedgescompany.com/blog/2018/10/number-of-licensed-drivers-usa/, the 2010s have seen about 1% growth in driver population each year, so we'd have 10 times as many people taking remedial driver's ed as we would first-timers (now, as a driver in America, god knows they could probably use it). Sounds like a good jobs program.
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Nov 16, 2020 21:37
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Pham Nuwen posted:High-capacity minivans 
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Pham Nuwen posted:High-capacity magwheels
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Nov 16, 2020 22:32
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Sagebrush posted:Airline-level safety for cars is impossible for a variety of reasons. But a nice first step would be to mandate that drivers pass regular tests and maintain currency, as is required for airline pilots. Even private pilots have to do a flight review every two years, which is officially not a test in that there are no explicit standards, but it might as well be because if the instructor you do it with doesn't like your flying and refuses to sign you off, you're grounded. If the test for a pilot's license was like the test for a driver's license it'd be like "ok, we're gonna taxi around a bit, ok wiggle your control surfaces and talk to the tower, great and we're done, be safe flying out there!"
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Pham Nuwen posted:So you're saying that every year, we're going to put 5% of every existing driver on the road in a weekend course? Apparently there's about 230 million drivers in the US so we're looking at 10 million people in the course every year. According to https://hedgescompany.com/blog/2018/10/number-of-licensed-drivers-usa/, the 2010s have seen about 1% growth in driver population each year, so we'd have 10 times as many people taking remedial driver's ed as we would first-timers (now, as a driver in America, god knows they could probably use it). Growth in driver population isn’t the same as number of new drivers; otherwise what would it mean for the driver population to decrease? People stop driving for various reasons, including but not limited to death by driving.
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Wasabi the J posted:More like BADMAN No, sir. This is Badman: 
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Darchangel posted:One of the replies on Twitter: Did he cover up the gas cap with the extra fenders?
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Ror posted:My platform goes in the other direction, we make an amendment to the Constitution that guarantees the right to drive cars like your right to own a gun. Let Stevie Wonder finally take his Rolls-Royce on public roads. Just like you can legally shoot in national forests and on BLM land, you can now do powerslides and burnouts in them too. Things like monster trucks and killdozers require a special permit of course. Muffler sales will plummet when they take a year, finger prints, and a $200 tax stamp. We do already have people sawing cars in half then welding them back together here though so were ready on that front.
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Pham Nuwen posted:So you're saying that every year, we're going to put 5% of every existing driver on the road in a weekend course? Apparently there's about 230 million drivers in the US so we're looking at 10 million people in the course every year. According to https://hedgescompany.com/blog/2018/10/number-of-licensed-drivers-usa/, the 2010s have seen about 1% growth in driver population each year, so we'd have 10 times as many people taking remedial driver's ed as we would first-timers (now, as a driver in America, god knows they could probably use it). yes. we could fund it in perpetuity by cancelling one or two aircraft carriers and putting the money into a "safer roads forever" trust fund
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Sagebrush posted:yes. The real beauty of the FAA model is that the tests, instructors, training, and examiners are all private individuals. Only the designated examiners are ever directly in contact with the regulatory body, unless there is an incident. The FAA doesn’t have to organize flight training, or pay instructors, or any of that. They just need to come down off the FSDO hill once in awhile and strike the fear of god into the local instructors via certificate action, and the system self-regulates. What I’m saying, is everyone is vastly overestimating what a proper drivers education/testing/continuing education program would directly cost the government. Most of the cost would be (and should be) borne by license holders.
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MrYenko posted:Most of the cost would be (and should be) borne by license holders. And then we’ve created yet another regressive tax because a lot of poor people have to drive to get to work. Government will have to pay, either to support the licensing regime or for infrastructure (cheap or free public transport) to reduce demand for licenses.
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That's my biggest criticism with the idea of more testing. America built its infrastructure on easy access to driving and now one needs easy access to being able to drive to work and buy food and get to school, etc.
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One hour-long test every five years is not an undue burden even for the very poor. Christ's sake. Schedule it six months in advance; you know when it's due. "People shouldn't have to demonstrate that they are capable of safely operating one of the most lethal machines in the country because they might find it inconvenient" is not an acceptable position to take
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That’s ignoring a lot about availability of time and access to facilities, but also:MrYenko posted:Most of the cost would be (and should be) borne by license holders.
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Sagebrush posted:One hour-long test every five years is not an undue burden even for the very poor. Christ's sake. Schedule it six months in advance; you know when it's due. I think if we're tackling all of America's problems, of which there are a lot, this ranks pretty low, so if you want it badly there's going to be some compromise to make it work with the current cobbled together pile of regulations we call a society.
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Sagebrush posted:One hour-long test every five years is not an undue burden even for the very poor. Christ's sake. Schedule it six months in advance; you know when it's due. Maybe we should work on having an initial training and licensing scheme that isn't a joke before doing some sort of exorbitant refresher scheme? I have to do a five year refresher with the MSA to keep riding motorcycles, but that's at least a somewhat valuable skills course "stop at stop signs, back around a corner, navigate a traffic light, parallel park" is not.
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Sagebrush posted:One hour-long test every five years is not an undue burden even for the very poor. Christ's sake. Schedule it six months in advance; you know when it's due. You say this in the middle of a pandemic when people are probably not very into the idea of spending an hour in a car with a stranger. Getting time off in business hours on a weekday is extremely difficult for many people, look at what a demonstrable barrier it is for voting. Sagebrush posted:"People shouldn't have to demonstrate that they are capable of safely operating one of the most lethal machines in the country because they might find it inconvenient" is not an acceptable position to take What is the purpose? Do you think people who drive the most miles of any population in the world forget to drive because they get too much practice? Are their bad habits going to be erased by an hour of very obvious head movements to show they're looking in their mirrors? The reality is that we can't raise standards for driving until there's a reasonable alternative for most of the population, anything else and we're telling huge sections of the country to go gently caress themselves.
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On licenses, I would really really like a little pamphlet with my renewal notice (and also with my registration renewal) showing all the changes to laws/rules and fines. The debates on multilane roundabouts still stirs up a hornets nest occasionally on FB groups. It's a simple idea that would help a lot of people with basic esoteric stuff they missed or forgotten.... but lol that means less fines being handed out by pigs so that won't happen.
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Sagebrush posted:Airline-level safety for cars is impossible for a variety of reasons. But a nice first step would be to mandate that drivers pass regular tests and maintain currency, as is required for airline pilots. Even private pilots have to do a flight review every two years, which is officially not a test in that there are no explicit standards, but it might as well be because if the instructor you do it with doesn't like your flying and refuses to sign you off, you're grounded. The problem with this proposal is that unlike the FAA, there is no federal level driving standards agency, it's down to the state/province (who, in America, is more likely than not to be so broke they can't even fix the roads, let alone justify a vastly expanded DMV bureacracy.) The places where strict licensing and testing regimens exist are all generally single state countries with a strong, centralized federal government. That kind of system isn't tenable if Alberta decides that their driving test standard is going to be "can you get your pickup out of the ditch without spilling your beer", and Ontario decides their test is going to be "did you manage to not kill any pedestrians".
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I'd like to see PSA's become a thing again, good 'ol government identifying stuff that people frequently do wrong and running ads for it on tv (and I suppose social media too). They're usually extremely cheesy but also tend to get stuck in people's brains.
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Well there's this account making a game attempt at being all 2020 about it https://twitter.com/USCPSC/status/1328134708132245509?s=20
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xzzy posted:I'd like to see PSA's become a thing again, good 'ol government identifying stuff that people frequently do wrong and running ads for it on tv (and I suppose social media too). The podcast I listen to does a brief NHTSA seatbelt/drunk driving one before every episode.
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Data Graham posted:Well there's this account making a game attempt at being all 2020 about it Did... did a government agency actually make a Discworld reference?
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Data Graham posted:Well there's this account making a game attempt at being all 2020 about it o7
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Darchangel posted:Did... did a government agency actually make a Discworld reference? USCPSC's twitter account is a trip, and worth reading. They hired some very creative funny people, and their just given free reign, because no one cares about the USCPSC.
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Elviscat posted:USCPSC's twitter account is a trip, and worth reading. Wrong. I care about the USCPSC. Because they hired some very creative funny people with free reign.
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https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/bmw-zieht-bau-von-verbrenner-motoren-aus-deutschland-ab-a-e43cd825-636b-4487-a427-03486ba425ba BMW, the Bayerische Motoren Werke, will stop werking on Motoren in Bayern by 2024. Sad trombone. 
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