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Hedenius posted:My bet is a bunch of new “recommendations” that will do nothing to help.
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teen witch posted:on the other hand, Jul is going to be interesting
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evil_bunnY posted:It's going to be more of the same, with the local equivalent of thanksgiving. oh that’s fairly damning
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Lars Sjunnesson seems to have gone off the deep end and is now full internet edgy racist. His recent work is awful.
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Yeah I noticed. Real shame. Åke Jävel remains a cultural icon though.
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Also, going to the gym (while dousing everything I touch in disinfectant) and the library have been the only two things keeping my broken brain going since covid started. This is going to be rough.
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a general lockdown is unconstitutional (clashes with the guarantee of freedom of movement) so idk what people are expecting, really the only exception i'm aware of is if the country is at war or at imminent risk of war, so i guess technically we could start a phony war against denmark to get around it. the swedish consitution is pretty interesting in this regard actually - there are no general provisions for emergency powers or martial law, but rather there's a huge number of specific regulations and special laws that are automatically activated in case of war. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Nov 16, 2020 |
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TheFluff posted:a general lockdown is unconstitutional (clashes with the guarantee of freedom of movement) so idk what people are expecting, really Perhaps it's time to
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TheFluff posted:a general lockdown is unconstitutional (clashes with the guarantee of freedom of movement) so idk what people are expecting, really All we get from conquering Denmark is Corona 2.0 We should invade Norway instead and steal their oil.
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Is it impossible to change the constitution?
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Baudolino posted:Is it impossible to change the constitution? No, but you have to vote through an amendment, have a general election and then vote for the same amendment again to make it pass. Sweden has one of the worlds weakest constitutions tbh. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Nov 17, 2020 |
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MiddleOne posted:No, but you have to vote through an amendment, have a general election and then vote for the same amendment again to make it pass. Weakest in terms of what it does or weakest in terms of how easy it is to change?
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TheFluff posted:Weakest in terms of what it does or weakest in terms of how easy it is to change? Easy to change. Lots of countries put higher requirements for adjusting their constitution, especially more than a simple majority (the US requires a two-thirds majority vote in both HoR and Senate, for example, making it close to impossible when it comes to issues that are even remotely contested). Requiring two separate votes with an election inbetween is not that hard, but it's still a significant hurdle if you're suddenly in the middle of a pandemic and you realize that your consitution makes it really hard to quarantine more than, say, a block of houses. Or to shut down gyms etc. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Nov 17, 2020 |
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Change is good, tbh Except when it's bad change, then it's bad tbh
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Zzulu posted:Change is good, tbh The only US amendment the last 50 years has been regarding salaries for congressmen. Too many restrictions on constitutional amendments is a really bad idea and will handicap societal progress and give an unreasonable boost to conservatism. That proposal was introduced... 1789, signed in 1992 lol. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Nov 17, 2020 |
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TheFluff posted:a general lockdown is unconstitutional (clashes with the guarantee of freedom of movement) so idk what people are expecting, really quote:Art. 8. Everyone shall be protected in their relations with the public institutions against deprivations of personal liberty. All Swedish citizens shall Keeping people from dying to a pandemic is a "purpose acceptable in a democratic society". It is a perfectly viable target of legislature.
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TheFluff posted:Weakest in terms of what it does or weakest in terms of how easy it is to change? Weakest as in you could politically scrap the whole thing in less than 2 years.
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PederP posted:Keeping people from dying to a pandemic is a "purpose acceptable in a democratic society". It is a perfectly viable target of legislature. of course freedom of movement can be regulated in general or it would not be possible to arrest people for example. smittskyddslagen also has provisions for putting people in quarantine, but this only extends to individual households and such things. it may be possible to write a law with provisions for more extensive restrictions that could pass muster as constitutional, but the reason i said it was unconstitutional was that i read a law professor quoted as saying that in an interview a while back, so it's not my own internet lawyer claim. i did some reading though and the 1968 version of smittskyddslagen (that is the one predating the 1974 constitutional reform) was significantly more powerful than the one we have today (rewritten completely twice since then). in addition to provisions for forced quarantine it also had provisions for forced testing and forced treatment, as well as an article that granted the cabinet extremely wide-reaching powers to isolate any geographical region in order to prevent epidemic spread. most of this was dropped when the law was rewritten after the constitutional reform, and reading the proposal there was significant concern about proportional use of force and a desire to avoid authoritarian measures. for example forced isolation/quarantine for more than 4 days now requires a court decision (and still does to this day).
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I had no idea Sweden had an American style "war on Christmas" being pushed by right wingers. https://twitter.com/globalcrash2020/status/1328044658237317121?s=20 Liked this reply. 
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Katt posted:I had no idea Sweden had an American style "war on Christmas" being pushed by right wingers. Last year Apotekarnes sold must under two different names julmust and vintermust and that got a lot of people mad for some reason
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Precis som mina traditioner så importerar jag alla mina åsikter från utlandet också.
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I’ve never been prouder of my adopted hometown Also why and how the gently caress was he allowed to travel, why was there an event, why didn’t I get to pie the moron (I know, the answer is all money)
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teen witch posted:I’ve never been prouder of my adopted hometown Yeah, my rich as gently caress aquaintance travels the world like it's 2019. As long as you own the boat/plane you can go spread the E: There was a party because the US Ambassador to Sweden is this big brained motherfucker. Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Nov 18, 2020 |
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teen witch posted:I’ve never been prouder of my adopted hometown lmao what would the american equivalent of eskilstuna be? like, cleveland? TheFluff fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Nov 18, 2020 |
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TheFluff posted:lmao Having lived in both, a hundred times yes.
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Katt posted:I had no idea Sweden had an American style "war on Christmas" being pushed by right wingers. 
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Groda posted:Having lived in both, a hundred times yes. At least it’s not Detroit! We’re not Detroit!
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Katt posted:I had no idea Sweden had an American style "war on Christmas" being pushed by right wingers. Trying to explain Kalle Ankas julafton to foreign coworkers is an interesting experience. “Yes, the Swedish Christmas TV highlight is to watch 40 year old censored Disney short films at 15 on Christmas Eve. Where one episodes details Kalle Ankas adventure in a jungle. If you are lucky you also get a commercial for the latest Disney movie included.“  Note : with censored I don’t mean the recent change of Santa’s workshop but rather Kalle Ankas use of a heavy machine gun to shoot the bird in the jungle episode which exists in the original episode. Growing up in the 80s without cable was an interesting experience in terms of TV. teen witch posted:At least it’s not Detroit! Your claim to fame is Kent. Make what you want out of that statement.
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Kalle Anka på julafton suger. Det är så värdelöst But some people just gotta do it. They gotta senselessly watch it because it is tradition. Like, ok if you have toddlers around who want to watch it. But otherwise? It's nuts to sit there and stare at those cartoons year after year.
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Karl-Bertil Jonsson however..
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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While I do not like Kalle Ankas Julafton, I like Kan du vissla Johanna even less though. Get some new material Svt! This is a good video on the subject of Donald Duck on Christmas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvyo03sSUvE
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I'd still watch Kalle Ankas Julafton over Ivanhoe.
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what the gently caress is wrong with your people you gotta watch the mickey mouse christmas variety hour on christmas! it contains the ducks' snowball fight and chip and dale's christmas tree adventure shorts!
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:what the gently caress is wrong with your people One Christmas he'll win that snowball fight. He's way more creative about it than his indecipherable scumbag nephews.
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Get ready for that lovely mask study to fertilise the ground for more OPEN 'ER UP.
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Kalle ankas jul owns bones. I kinda like that its always the same stuff on tv on christmas, its relaxing.
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Norway does the same thing more or less. I think our "Disneys Julekavalkade" (IIRC it's called that) is the exact same Christmas specias as Kalle Ankas Jul. There's also the East German/Czecho Slovak Cinderella movie from the 80s, with the one guy dubbing the whole thing Russian/Polish style, that's delightful, and "Reisen til Julestjernen" which I think is an awful movie, but still it's always there. A couple of others here and there as well (some have been added and some shorter/smaller ones have slipped away over the years) You just turn on the TV and let it roll for however long it takes, meanwhile you do preparations for Christmas dinner, get the last of the presents delivered or whatever and just pop in for a look every now and then, maybe deciding to catch one of the programs in its entirety or close to it. It works and doesn't really need changing, it being the same every single time is the point.
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