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Despite paying (ostensibly) too much attention to Apple news, and being a former App developer, I didn't realize my game was going to be auto-published to the Mac App Store until I was reading this thread last night. Whoops. Kind of a bold move, as far as defaults go. I guess I will opt-out because I have no idea how it will run, and don't plan to shell out for first generation Apple Silicon. Unless there's another way of testing it? I mean, most of the testing I ever did was in the Unity editor, and it works okay with the mouse, but  ?
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Escape Goat posted:Despite paying (ostensibly) too much attention to Apple news, and being a former App developer, I didn't realize my game was going to be auto-published to the Mac App Store until I was reading this thread last night. Whoops. Kind of a bold move, as far as defaults go. Maybe see if an AS-owning goon will test it for you?
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Nov 18, 2020 04:29
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That lack of testing, more than deeply-considered opposition to the prospect, is likely why a lot of major apps aren’t available at this point.
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Nov 18, 2020 04:30
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Mister Facetious posted:The Verge review covered that, and they're hit or miss in their usability on a non-touchscreen laptop. Hell, Apple programmed an entire accessibility suite for them. There's some ChromeOS-style teething problems. They are 100% going to be making touch screen Macs holy poo poo. Make a 12inch mini touch screen MacBook plz.
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Nov 18, 2020 04:49
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How much will I regret not going 16gb of RAM with the MBA? Went with the 8 core GPU and the 512 SSD but having second thoughts. I don't do much with my computer besides browsing and some random games of civ / dota. First laptop in years so will I see a huge difference with 16 rather than 8?
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Nov 18, 2020 04:51
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Escape Goat posted:Despite paying (ostensibly) too much attention to Apple news, and being a former App developer, I didn't realize my game was going to be auto-published to the Mac App Store until I was reading this thread last night. Whoops. Kind of a bold move, as far as defaults go. This is easy for me to say since you're the one who has to deal with angry reviews if poo poo doesn't work, but please don't opt-out for no reason.
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Nov 18, 2020 04:57
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Having tons of displayport problems on the m1 mini. The recommended moshi cable wouldn’t even connect until I updated the os, and now it disconnects periodically & won’t wake back up until dis/reconnected. Direct usb-c seemed fine, but that doesn’t help a kvm switch user like myself. Otherwise, feels just like the early x86 days so far. Fast as hell, but no native software and nothing compiles either. Bullshit like vs code being blocked because node won’t build in any flavor that is valid for yarn...
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Nov 18, 2020 04:59
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~Coxy posted:This is easy for me to say since you're the one who has to deal with angry reviews if poo poo doesn't work, but please don't opt-out for no reason. They literally just gave a great reason to opt out.
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Nov 18, 2020 05:09
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OMGzKakaniz posted:How much will I regret not going 16gb of RAM with the MBA? Went with the 8 core GPU and the 512 SSD but having second thoughts. I don't do much with my computer besides browsing and some random games of civ / dota. First laptop in years so will I see a huge difference with 16 rather than 8? For light use it's (should be) a non-issue. If you wind up doing something down the line that uses more than 8gb of ram it'll start paging which is never fun, but unless you're a serious tab horder that's not something that'll come up just browsing. Im not familiar with the needs of civ or dota but I'd be very surprised if 8gb was an issue. Personally I'd have trouble being locked in to 8gb, but my laptop only had 8gb and it's perfectly fine for browsing.
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Nov 18, 2020 05:20
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Please don’t distribute your software for a platform if you don’t have high confidence that it works on that platform, at least without signifiers to that effect. Pretty please.
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Nov 18, 2020 05:20
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Some Goon posted:For light use it's (should be) a non-issue. If you wind up doing something down the line that uses more than 8gb of ram it'll start paging which is never fun, but unless you're a serious tab horder that's not something that'll come up just browsing. Im not familiar with the needs of civ or dota but I'd be very surprised if 8gb was an issue. Personally I'd have trouble being locked in to 8gb, but my laptop only had 8gb and it's perfectly fine for browsing. Tbh on mac I only ever hit hard memory limits in photoshop at 8gb and never get memory issues at 16. I bet it’s fine for a huge majority of uses (which is not to say there aren’t going to be big cases for more ofc). I personally wouldn’t go below 16 for me but I think 8 will be fine for most people.
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Nov 18, 2020 05:30
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mediaphage posted:Tbh on mac I only ever hit hard memory limits in photoshop at 8gb and never get memory issues at 16. I bet it’s fine for a huge majority of uses (which is not to say there aren’t going to be big cases for more ofc). I personally wouldn’t go below 16 for me but I think 8 will be fine for most people. yeah 8 is bad, 16 is enough that it's not an issue for me. I wouldn't buy anything below 16, particularly now it's impossible to upgrade. Assuming that the M1 doesn't change how much RAM is utilized.
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Nov 18, 2020 05:36
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Thanks for the info folks. May consider getting a different model before cracking this one open once the fruit stand gets some in.
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Nov 18, 2020 05:44
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mediaphage posted:They literally just gave a great reason to opt out. I have no idea what the app is but it will probably work usably fine. It's very annoying for the user when the developer disables a feature.
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Nov 18, 2020 05:59
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~Coxy posted:I have no idea what the app is but it will probably work usably fine. They don’t owe you jack or poo poo, though. It’s much worse for them to let an app out and have it work poorly, then get swamped with negative reviews. They don’t have the capability to test it, so the smart bet is to disable it from being released.
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Nov 18, 2020 06:05
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Can someone who knows more about this than me explain why the end game for a M-family of chips wouldn't be an iPad style device that can dual-boot iOS and MacOS?
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Nov 18, 2020 06:05
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illcendiary posted:Can someone who knows more about this than me explain why the end game for a M-family of chips wouldn't be an iPad style device that can dual-boot iOS and MacOS? If you can run iOS apps on mac why would you ever need to dual boot? That’s just going to add complexity for end users which Apple tends not to do. Imo I bet they hate dealing with boot camp. I don’t see them converging on a single device like that anytime soon. The closest you might get is a touchscreen Mac although they have been super vocally against that multiple times (not that they haven’t pulled 180s before, ofc). mediaphage fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Nov 18, 2020 |
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Nov 18, 2020 06:09
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Presumably when you want the convenience of a tablet and don’t want to deal with a PC-centric windows manager
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Nov 18, 2020 06:12
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shrike82 posted:Presumably when you want the convenience of a tablet and don’t want to deal with a PC-centric windows manager But they have the iPad for you to use in those cases. Why sell you one device when they can sell you two?
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Nov 18, 2020 06:13
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illcendiary posted:Can someone who knows more about this than me explain why the end game for a M-family of chips wouldn't be an iPad style device that can dual-boot iOS and MacOS? They can get a lot of people to buy both a Mac and an iPad.
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Nov 18, 2020 06:13
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From a business standpoint sure but I’d love to switch out my MBP and IPP with a single device
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Nov 18, 2020 06:14
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illcendiary posted:Can someone who knows more about this than me explain why the end game for a M-family of chips wouldn't be an iPad style device that can dual-boot iOS and MacOS? The same reason a single company sells six kinds of pasta sauce; you want to cover the customers that want X and say they don't need Y.
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Nov 18, 2020 06:19
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Apple would never endorse dual-booting for their own software; it’s thr antithesis of good UI.
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Nov 18, 2020 06:34
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Mixing iOS apps with macOS apps is also bad design on some abstract level so them supporting it at all indicates a recognition that there’s some net benefit in doing so. The current UI of ugly floating app windows strikes me as a placeholder until they can get something better in place.
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Nov 18, 2020 06:38
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Is it too soon to hop on the M1 train if I’m a safari browsing, discord chatting, MS Word typing, YouTube watching prole? Reviews make it seem like a slam dunk if you aren’t using it for productivity/money making endeavors. I was debating getting an iPad Air with Smart Keyboard & trackpad because of that sweet, sweet battery life. With the M1 it looks like I can just go with a MacBook instead.
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Nov 18, 2020 06:56
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buglord posted:Is it too soon to hop on the M1 train if I’m a safari browsing, discord chatting, MS Word typing, YouTube watching prole? Reviews make it seem like a slam dunk if you aren’t using it for productivity/money making endeavors. I was debating getting an iPad Air with Smart Keyboard & trackpad because of that sweet, sweet battery life. With the M1 it looks like I can just go with a MacBook instead. Nah, seems like the air would be perfect for your situation
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Nov 18, 2020 07:06
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They'd just need a "touch" launcher and a "desktop" launcher you can switch between on the fly as desired, not a dual boot/OS device.
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Nov 18, 2020 07:19
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mediaphage posted:They don’t owe you jack or poo poo, though. Maybe, maybe not. mediaphage posted:It’s much worse for them to let an app out and have it work poorly, then get swamped with negative reviews. They don’t have the capability to test it, so the smart bet is to disable it from being released. Assuming the reviews show up on the MAS then the smart bet would be to allow Apple to make your app available, and only to take it down if the users report some catastrophic error.
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Nov 18, 2020 07:25
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The bigger question to me is whether they’ll ever provide a touch interface on their laptops. That’d go against their historical stance about touch on computers.
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Nov 18, 2020 07:31
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Turn the trackpad into a second little display
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Nov 18, 2020 08:34
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FuturePastNow posted:Turn the trackpad into a second little display Use a Magic Trackpad 2 as a controller 
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Nov 18, 2020 08:36
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FuturePastNow posted:Turn the trackpad into a second little display There’s Windows laptops that do this now and it works about as well as you’d expect it
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Nov 18, 2020 08:39
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Fame Douglas posted:Good news for World of Warcraft fans: Wow they ported it that quickly to ARM? I wonder if it would be possible to run WoW on a iPad with keyboard + mouse support
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Nov 18, 2020 08:47
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So let me get this straight, the M1 chip has to run Intel based software through an emulator, but the chip is so fast there's no real drop in performance or quality in using those Intel-based Software through the emulator? so if I get an M1 mac I can still run the software I want fine? Also does the Pro even have a GPU anymore wouldnt the lack of a GPU mean big trouble for heavy creative use? hmmmmm it's very risky proposition for creative workers.....
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Nov 18, 2020 09:29
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American McGay posted:Only in the Mac Hardware thread can someone post a video of World of Warcraft running at 40fps and people get impressed. It has no fan. On max settings. ...how? Edit: on second thought seems like a very ideal situation for the laptop as far as where they are in game and what was going on it’s a boat Show me a character standing in an actual zone. spunkshui fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Nov 18, 2020 |
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Nov 18, 2020 10:06
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spunkshui posted:It has no fan. MBP - WoW @ 03:12 (1080p, Ultra preset, claims ~45fps in the beginner zone): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu8gEq-Os_E
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Al-Saqr posted:So let me get this straight, the M1 chip has to run Intel based software through an emulator, but the chip is so fast there's no real drop in performance or quality in using those Intel-based Software through the emulator? so if I get an M1 mac I can still run the software I want fine? Also does the Pro even have a GPU anymore wouldnt the lack of a GPU mean big trouble for heavy creative use? hmmmmm it's very risky proposition for creative workers..... They only released the smaller MacBook Pro with the new Processor so far. We don’t know how they will handle the larger Pro, which is the one that had the option for a dedicated GPU.
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Apple sells more iPhones in one year than the Playstation 4 and Xbox lifetime sales combined. I think they just see gaming as small potatoes.
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Nov 18, 2020 10:35
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So a dude on this other forum I frequent has the new Macbook Air with M1 and he says he was able to hook up two external displays! One USB-C cable to a dock which connected two displayport monitors! It's the top message on this page but it's in Dutch: https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/2030476/9 He uses this dock: https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/1310274/lenovo-thinkpad-hybrid-usb-c-with-usb-a-dock/specificaties/ and had to install some DisplayLink software?
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~Coxy posted:Maybe, maybe not. No. Dude. You literally are owed nothing, no maybe about it. It’s dumb as poo poo to throw apps out with no testing and if the dev doesn’t feel comfortable doing it then they shouldn’t do it. You’re being entitled. FCKGW posted:There’s Windows laptops that do this now and it works about as well as you’d expect it Yeah these are always awful but Apple has black magic trackpads so who knows. They definitely have a patent about something like this tho.
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