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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The Great Autismo! posted:

speaking as someone who weird goons have bought like four or five avatars for: why do you care. Look at my avatar. Someone bought it for me. Who cares. You clowns, you buffoons, you utter children

it’s a tiny picture next to my name. Who gives a poo poo

yeah but you have brian blessed

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Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

BrainDance posted:

Do we really give clenbuterol to pigs? Does that get in the meat?

Knew a guy (actually the guy who got me on SA) who lost a ton of weight taking that stuff, but it didn't sound like a fun drug at all.



It's saying, oppose Tsai liberalizing imports. American pigs have drugs to make them lean (which I guess is clenbuterol, I had to look up 瘦肉精) and it's killing Taiwanese people.

This reminds me of the crazy US meat import protests in Korea claiming US exporters were intentionally sending tainted mad cow meat or something.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

BrainDance posted:

It's saying, oppose Tsai liberalizing imports. American pigs have drugs to make them lean (which I guess is clenbuterol, I had to look up 瘦肉精) and it's killing Taiwanese people.

Doubt it was clenbuterol, that'd be a huge scandal in the US if it was true.

Do you have any articles about tainted meat killingTtaiwanese people? In English, if possible, but I could always try google translate.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Look at this pig's huge balls - obviously 100% steroid free!

LOL if anyone is still getting caught dead with Clen near their food chain. Even idiot bodybuilders and fighters know better than to touch it.

mikerock
Oct 29, 2005

oohhboy posted:

Hypothetical. Assuming such a suit exists, still exists, and I am honest, how much would the thread collectively pledge to said organizations? Would there be a way to verify should a claim of donation by naming the donor Hong Kong Suit?

Hypothetically.

I'd donate $50 CAD to DWB, I don't even care if the suit is real and you make and wear carboard parts of your own design.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012


It's cheaper if you make the centimeters smaller.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
I was never important enough to have mine changed :(

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Hypothetical Terms and conditions.

The going rate for loving with may avatar is how much? $20-25?. 10x so $200-250 (Which ever is higher) That whether it is from one person or preferably multiple posters.

1: $200-250: You get a picture of this suit displayed on a hanger. All identifiers removed.

2: $1000 with get you see me wear said suit. All identifiers removed of course. Alternate is me in a cardboard box as suggested earlier. $2000 gets you both(:lol:).

3: If at least one of you send a sternly worded gently caress China to your local Representative/MP/senator/Minster of Foreign affairs/State and condition 1# is met, you will get a second photo with said suit laid out on the ground.

4: A sternly worded letter gently caress China is worth half a donation toward the $1000 goal. This will allow those with fewer means to participate.

5: It must not be a form letter. Minimum of one paragraph with 3 sentences. Email/handwritten* (Handwritten gets you a most awesome of greetings ever put to film as thanks.) is ok and some sort of verification provided like letter going into post box or auto-email acknowledgement. While obviously barbarous rude and KILLING if the letter is simply gently caress CHINA as well as standard letter that counts as 0.75 donations. Participation must be a letter, no change.org or any other online/offline petition.

Verification of hypothetical suit photo will include in the picture the words: HK SUIT.

Options are HK Free Press, Doctors without Borders and Reporters without Borders. A US bail fund is also acceptable however I don't know that much about them so agree among yourself which one is best.

All values are in USD

Amendment:
*Handwritten will also be worth 0.75 of a donation.

End Hypothetical.

hf, gl, gg.

oohhboy fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Nov 15, 2020

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

GoutPatrol posted:

Presented without comment



Unironically I agree. Instead of importing American food, import Japanese food. They take way better care of their livestock and feed them more than just corn.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

oohhboy posted:

Hypothetical Terms and conditions.

The going rate for loving with may avatar is how much? $20-25?. 10x so $200-250 (Which ever is higher) That whether it is from one person or preferably multiple posters.

1: $200-250: You get a picture of this suit displayed on a hanger. All identifiers removed.

2: $1000 with get you see me wear said suit. All identifiers removed of course. Alternate is me in a cardboard box as suggested earlier. $2000 gets you both(:lol:).

3: If at least one of you send a sternly worded gently caress China to your local Representative/MP/senator/Minster of Foreign affairs/State and condition 1# is met, you will get a second photo with said suit laid out on the ground.

4: A sternly worded letter gently caress China is worth half a donation toward the $1000 goal. This will allow those with fewer means to participate.

5: It must not be a form letter. Minimum of one paragraph with 3 sentences. Email/handwritten* (Handwritten gets you a most awesome of greetings ever put to film as thanks.) is ok and some sort of verification provided like letter going into post box or auto-email acknowledgement. While obviously barbarous rude and KILLING if the letter is simply gently caress CHINA as well as standard letter that counts as 0.75 donations. Participation must be a letter, no change.org or any other online/offline petition.

Verification of hypothetical suit photo will include in the picture the words: HK SUIT.

Options are HK Free Press, Doctors without Borders and Reporters without Borders. A US bail fund is also acceptable however I don't know that much about them so agree among yourself which one is best.

All values are in USD

Amendment:
*Handwritten will also be worth 0.75 of a donation.

End Hypothetical.

hf, gl, gg.

i can send you proof of my past years of HKFP donations if it makes people shut the gently caress up about the suit

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Im glad oohhboy is no longer naked

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
The suit was made in China years ago. It has long crumbled into dust.

I don’t know what good donations to a hk free press will do when the ccp doesn’t seem to care about law or lawyers or legal funds when shutting things down.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

I donated to the HK free press in exile.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
You don't see me whine how poo poo is hopeless in HK, I will do what I can. Maybe they will get kicked out, but until then they are still in the fight, and they have contingencies to operate outside HK. I am not going to roll over for NAZI scum.

If you want the suit, or are angry for HK, fight NAZI Jackboots put your money where you post is. You want to buy, I want to sell, that is the price.

Devils Affricate posted:

I will donate 100 American Trump Dollars to HKFP for photographic evidence of the suit

edit: But I assume this is not nearly enough. Who else is with me?

mikerock posted:

I'd donate $50 CAD to DWB, I don't even care if the suit is real and you make and wear carboard parts of your own design.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
I do hate Nazi jackboots. I’m down for $50. What’s the running total? I do wanna see the suit.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
I just want to die.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

WarpedNaba posted:

I just want to die.

Your money before you die please.

:rip: your mortgage

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
What's the quality of a school like Beijing Normal University like?

Good luck on your quest ohh boy, may as well make the hunger for the suit pay.

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
p sure this is the defacto nz thread now

mikerock
Oct 29, 2005

My offer is real and I'll adjust it to $50 USD as part of a group buy to support some charities and see oohhboy come up with some hilarious suit.


Edit:
For context $50 USD is like $12,000 CAD.

mikerock fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Nov 17, 2020

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Between the 3 of you we are now at $200 in pledges. Not far to go!

mikerock posted:

For context $50 USD is like $12,000 CAD.

:rip: Your mortgage if you have one. Who are we kidding, no one can afford a house.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

BrainDance posted:

Do we really give clenbuterol to pigs? Does that get in the meat?
Knew a guy (actually the guy who got me on SA) who lost a ton of weight taking that stuff, but it didn't sound like a fun drug at all.

What does your heart tell you?

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/04/amidst-scandal-china-expands-food-additive-blacklist/#.UDTUVKCdjRQ

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Booty Pageant posted:

p sure this is the defacto nz thread now

Does anybody have anything insightful to say about RCEP? I just found out about this poo poo yesterday.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It's started pre-Xi, back 2012, obviously they are playing it up as a Xi thing. Signed by two genocidal criminals. India bailed due to their protectionist stance. I haven't read deeply into it but the impression is it's pretty meh, 0.2% over 10 years. It's pretty much just mild tariffs cuts and reduced paper work with some product labelling/regulatory streamlining. It barely touches IP. Nothing on environment or worker protection or standards no doubt courtesy of China.

It is a large, but it isn't anywhere near the likes of EU or existing bi-trade agreements. It's very flashy once you look where the numbers are. It's like the US declaring it made the biggest trade deal in America which is technically true but it's 90% US.

I wonder how Xinjiang will impact Rules of Origin.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54949260

quote:

The RCEP is expected to eliminate a range of tariffs on imports within 20 years.

It also includes provisions on intellectual property, telecommunications, financial services, e-commerce and professional services.

But it's possible the new "rules of origin" - which officially define where a product comes from - will have the biggest impact.

Already many member states have free trade agreements (FTA) with each other, but there are limitations.

"The existing FTAs can be very complicated to use compared to RCEP," said Deborah Elms from the Asian Trade Centre.

Businesses with global supply chains might face tariffs even within an FTA because their products contain components that are made elsewhere.

A product made in Indonesia that contains Australian parts, for example, might face tariffs elsewhere in the Asean free trade zone.

Under RCEP, parts from any member nation would be treated equally, which might give companies in RCEP countries an incentive to look within the trade region for suppliers.

:lol:

quote:

"Under the current global circumstances, the fact the RCEP has been signed after eight years of negotiations brings a ray of light and hope amid the clouds," said Chinese Premier Li Keqiang.

Longer-term, Mr Li described the agreement as "a victory of multilateralism and free trade".

All that said, governments still have to ratify this on the national level so it might die down the line. Australia would be in a position to tank it. iirc Turnbull has already shown some displeasure with it. Also the whole wolf diplomacy and the cold war.

TPP has far greater impact but had serious flaws which would have tanked it. The revised version is far more agreeable and has a door for US when it wants back in.

The war on Huawei is starting to bite. It hasn't taken long.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54970003

quote:

Huawei said Honor had been under "tremendous pressure" due to "a persistent unavailability of technical elements".

US government sanctions have restricted supplies to Huawei on the grounds that the firm is a national security threat.

Huawei said it would not hold any shares or be involved in managing the new Honor company.

"This sale will help Honor's channel sellers and suppliers make it through this difficult time," the Chinese telecommunications giant said in a statement.

It comes down to the lack of chips which is something the US could have done a long time ago as an easy win and might have crippled China outright without tariffs, but you know t****.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

oohhboy posted:

Your money before you die please.

:rip: your mortgage

that’s why it’s called mort-gage

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Finally caught up, sad feeling binging threads and finally having no more to read.

This has been crazy interesting to read. Also kinda surprising to find out my high school history teacher apparently was actually pretty knowledgeable on China, seeing as basically anytime 19th/early 20th century Chinese history came up in this thread, yall and the stuff you recommended seem to largely have agreed with what he taught. Always interesting finding out which teachers were actually on the ball. Or all of you are full of poo poo I guess.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
We're all full of poo poo here in GBS.

It just so happens that reality is also full of poo poo, and thus there is a great deal of alignment.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Mother in law just left the Covid Hotel and is heading back to Jilin. She's been tested approximately 8 times since arriving in China (all negative) and when she gets home she's going to have to self-quarantine for another two weeks. After that last stretch, she_ll be tested one last time.

gently caress the CCP and their ways. . . but Covid didn't stand a chance there.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Blistex posted:

Mother in law just left the Covid Hotel and is heading back to Jilin. She's been tested approximately 8 times since arriving in China (all negative) and when she gets home she's going to have to self-quarantine for another two weeks. After that last stretch, she_ll be tested one last time.

gently caress the CCP and their ways. . . but Covid didn't stand a chance there.

Considering the months of November 2019 to March 2020 I'd say it stood and likely still stands an extremely good chance there

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Just literally found out that something has changed*, and she is going to have to spend an additiona 14 days quarantining in a hotel in Jilin when she arrives. She will then have to quarantine for another 7 at her home. She's expected to have another 4 tests at the new hotel and then two more for her home quarantine. She's lost count of how many times she's been tested.

*apparently the fact that Canadians are pants-on-head stupid, and are too loving dense to not catch and spread Covid means that China has instituted measures where people returning from nations where Covid is out of control have to undergo additional measures which means moving from a two stage quarantine (gov -> self) to a three stage quarantine (gov -> gov -> self).

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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It's because their new covid narrative is "Covid only comes from dirty foreigners"

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


Fojar38 posted:

It's because their new covid narrative is "Covid only comes from dirty foreigners"

It's this. Given how draconian their measures (now) are with suspected cases I can believe COVID is basically under control within China. The story there has now shifted to near-daily reports of coronavirus being detected on the exterior packaging of cold/frozen food shipments arriving from overseas. And with the exception of the (still unexplained) outbreak at an Acme Totally Not Uighur Forced Labor Industries factory in Xinjiang, almost all of the recent mini-clusters of COVID cases they've reported have been connected to warehouse workers that handled imported cold-chain products.

The science is still out, but based on what's known about the virus's ability to survive on cold surfaces it's entirely possible they're telling the truth about all this. What's dangerous is that now the narrative is becoming, "well, maybe the original outbreak in Wuhan caused by contaminated imports too and not our own disastrous incompetence. I mean, who's to say, really? But it definitely could have been the fault of those dirty foreigns" :iiam:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Also there are definitely regular local outbreaks that nobody hears about because it's China, and a portal to Hell could open in Bumfuck Hunan and a complex combination of censorship and cronyism would make it so we didn't hear about it until Ba'al is shoving pokers up our asses

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Homer Simpson in a Mao suit: "Chinese Communist Party: the cause of, and solution to, horrible viral pandemics!"

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The "Cold food" hypothesis showed up in New Zealand but got dismissed pretty quickly. Had it been true it would have been :lol: as the source would have been from China after they so called "Beaten" the virus. Remember the original "Cold food" idea was from China when they blamed Salmon coming in from Denmark(?) or was it Holland.

We never did find the source of that outbreak.

Their narrative no matter what it is has always been dangerous. What makes frozen food any different? They have already engaged in t**** level misinformation at the beginning of the year, and they haven't stopped. Those motherfuckers tried to throw NZ under the virus bus for $$$ by implying we were racist and citing WHO BS about not closing borders.

Is the virus under control in China? :shrug:, I am inclined not to believe them as they always lie. Would you trust t****? If they said the sky is blue I would fact-check it and look for additional context. Lets not forget they are still throwing the citizen reporters in prison for reporting on the initial outbreak. If there are new reports they are going to get shut down real quick or blame it on dirty foreigners or some other poo poo out of luck minority.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-54969682

quote:

A Chinese citizen journalist who covered Wuhan's virus outbreak is facing up to five years in jail, according to newly released documents.

Zhang Zhan, a 37-year-old former lawyer, has been held in detention since she was arrested in May.

She is accused of "picking quarrels and provoking trouble" - a charge often used against activists in China.

Ms Zhang is not the first citizen journalist who has run into trouble for reporting on the then virus-hit Wuhan.

At least three disappeared in February. One, Li Zehua, reappeared in April saying he had been "quarantining".

It later emerged the second, Chen Qiushi, had been placed under government supervision, while the whereabouts of the third journalist, Fang Bin, is still unknown.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

I am less interested in the "cause" of the outbreak. (Whilst I have never tried it, I bet Bat soup with Pandolin scales roasted in Koala blood is tasty. gently caress y'all.)

What China, (more accurately the CCP), is responsible for however is intentionally withholding information about the outbreak from everyone, within and without. They are guilty of intentionally harrassing, threatening, and suppressing the doctor who discovered it, and only wanted to help. They are responsible for allowing it to spread so far and so quickly. They are responsible for closing the gate after the horse had already bolted. And they only closed the gate, not because people were dying, but instead because they were in danger of looking bad.

So whilst you can argue about whether the disease came from a Wuhan bat, or a CIA lab, or even from the alien lizard person in the human skin suit posing as the Queen of England. If the CCP had acted like a responsible government that cared about it's citizens when they first heard about COVID-19, then none of what is happening today would be happening. Instead it would have been contained and dealt with by professionals. You know the professionals that got official government letters to shut up and allow possibly infected people to infect their family on the other side of the country/world.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

BrigadierSensible posted:

I am less interested in the "cause" of the outbreak. (Whilst I have never tried it, I bet Bat soup with Pandolin scales roasted in Koala blood is tasty. gently caress y'all.)

What China, (more accurately the CCP), is responsible for however is intentionally withholding information about the outbreak from everyone, within and without. They are guilty of intentionally harrassing, threatening, and suppressing the doctor who discovered it, and only wanted to help. They are responsible for allowing it to spread so far and so quickly. They are responsible for closing the gate after the horse had already bolted. And they only closed the gate, not because people were dying, but instead because they were in danger of looking bad.

So whilst you can argue about whether the disease came from a Wuhan bat, or a CIA lab, or even from the alien lizard person in the human skin suit posing as the Queen of England. If the CCP had acted like a responsible government that cared about it's citizens when they first heard about COVID-19, then none of what is happening today would be happening. Instead it would have been contained and dealt with by professionals. You know the professionals that got official government letters to shut up and allow possibly infected people to infect their family on the other side of the country/world.

This is why an indemnity needs to be imposed on china for it.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

BrigadierSensible posted:

(Whilst I have never tried it, I bet Bat soup with Pandolin scales roasted in Koala blood is tasty. gently caress y'all.)

honestly it's probably pretty disgusting. if you've ever eaten things that are outside of the common domesticated diet you find out pretty quickly that the further you get from safe foods like venison and bovine-adjacent animals, the flavor of the meat gets gross quickly. remember, you aren't eating bat because it's good; you're eating bat because it will give you the lost virility, maybe

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Terry Pratchett posted:

Genuan cooking, like the best cooking everywhere in the multiverse, has been evolved by people who had to make desperate use of ingredients their masters didn’t want. No-one would even try a bird’s nest unless they had to. Only hunger would make a man taste his first alligator. No-one would eat a shark’s fin if they were allowed to eat the rest of the shark.

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vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

the more you hear food is good for healthy, the worse it's gonna taste

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