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What was the lowest point of the Simpson
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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



The gently caress kind of name is Yeardley anyway, sounds like a 19th-century British lord

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spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

https://twitter.com/HosseinDibaArt/status/1327652851410210816

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

PostNouveau posted:

Just not an Ivy League school you hear getting poo poo on often. Obviously Harvard and Yale get most of the shots taken at them, and Princeton and Brown get their fair share, but you don't often hear shots at Cornell, Penn, Columbia or Dartmouth

No more Vassar bashing either

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

some poor loving korean animator got paid like $20 an hour to plan out the body movement that burns would need to make in order to have the nipple tassels spin

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

AHH F/UGH posted:

some poor loving korean animator got paid like $20 a day to plan out the body movement that burns would need to make in order to have the nipple tassels spin

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

AHH F/UGH posted:

some poor loving korean animator got paid like $20 an hour to plan out the body movement that burns would need to make in order to have the nipple tassels spin

And they did it poorly it looks like poo poo why are the tassels so long?

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

PostNouveau posted:

And they did it poorly it looks like poo poo why are the tassels so long?

If they were small, all the old geezers with poo poo eyesight that were watching would just think they're his saggy nipples and be grossed out

InsensitiveSeaBass
Apr 1, 2008

You're entering a realm which is unusual. Maybe it's magic, or contains some kind of monster... The second one. Prepare to enter The Scary Door.
Nap Ghost

muscles like this! posted:

They've officially run out of ideas as an upcoming episode will have Yeardley Smith guest star as herself. Apparently one of her side projects is a true crime podcast and that's what brings her to Springfield.
Dan Castellaneta has apparently done this not once, not twice, but thrice:

https://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/Dan_Castellaneta_(character)

Pennsylvanian
May 23, 2010

Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky Independent Presidential Regiment
Western Liberal Democracy or Death!

PostNouveau posted:

She comes off pretty bad in all the commentaries she's on. A lot of the time she explains the jokes as if she's only just now getting them for the first time.

The voice cast was on In the Actor's Studio, and James asked them why they thought the Simpsons was such a success. Yeardley gave some kind of answer like "Well, we go after everyone, nothing is sacred." Then the room was kind of quiet until Harry talked more about how James L. Brooks didn't allow the network to give the writers notes, and it kind of just steamrolled her.

Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time
more like Lisa Simpleton

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
The Simpsons came on when football turned off, so I guess I'll watch it live.

Lisa is disturbed by true crimes podcasts freaking her out about how awful the world is. Marge listens to them to find out what's going on and becomes as obsessed as Lisa. They go to a live taping of "Intermitable", a "Serial" parody. Kent Brockman wanders in and is disappointed by the huge crowd that doesn't care about him, confirmed by his family at home listening to podcasts rather than him too.

Bart and Homer go to visit Abe and find him making out with some lady who turns out to be a famous actress (Morgan Fairchild voices).

The actress goes missing on a cruise and Abe is the prime suspect. Kent Brockman announces he's going to investigate by launching a new podcast. It's a big hit. Kent runs into Yeardley Smith at a meeting of podcasters where she recommends he tone it back a bit. The podcast has whipped Springfield into a mob. Abe can't remember what happened but listens to the podcast and becomes convinced of his own guilt and pleads guilty.

Anyway it turns out the actress just faked her death and ran off to Mexico. Abe was supposed to follow with insurance money but was too senile to remember.

Also, Stellan Skarsgård and Bill Simmons were in this for some reason.

Actually some good jokes in this one and the plot hung together, so ... not the lowest point of the Simpsons.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

https://twitter.com/TheSimpsons/status/1328145268093673473

emgeejay
Dec 8, 2007

PostNouveau posted:

“Intermitable", a "Serial" parody
https://twitter.com/thesimpsons/status/1328142735359012865?s=21

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Kill me

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
I had a bunch of Dimetap to get to sleep and rolled out of bed looking at this thread thinking the title was "What was the point of the Simpsons" and went on this whole thing about

"Well we all know The Flintstones was just The Honeymooners set to some dumb caveman tropes that represented the push towards modernity from the 50s on, with things like dishwashers, vacuums and laundry machines revolutionizing the home life and portraying blue-collar America as hard-working but well off... And The Jetsons is really apologia for the upper middle class/white collar worker, as well as anxiety about the effect of domestics and mass-technology innovations on the health of the atomic family and overall culture... poo poo, there's like a 7 year age difference between Jane and George and she had Judy when she was fuckin 18 so maybe there's a lot of underlying cultural weird poo poo that new technology is just pampering over you know...

So I think The Simpsons is this mix of both, where you realize a total idiot can luck their way into a stable job, but be completely outclassed in being able to deal with the rigors of family life, is jealous of the neighbors with less-prestigious/technical jobs but more material and spiritual wealth yet does little to improve either, achieves the cultural markers of prosperity but really isn't much, but on occasion can rise to the needs of his loved ones and be a flawed but present father. Basically a whole thing on Reagan's America selling us a bill of goods based on Small Town Americana that is busted rear end broken and leading to more estranged interpersonal and familial relationships as everything continues to atomize.

Though Married with Children probably did it a little better.

Yeah toss in a Jumbo Krustyburger and a Sideshow Shake while you're at it.

Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time
My cat's breath smells like cat food

Filthy Haiku
Oct 22, 2010

i am shattering like glass


but at least
i have

springy ride

PostNouveau posted:

The Simpsons came on when football turned off, so I guess I'll watch it live.

Lisa is disturbed by true crimes podcasts freaking her out about how awful the world is. Marge listens to them to find out what's going on and becomes as obsessed as Lisa. They go to a live taping of "Intermitable", a "Serial" parody. Kent Brockman wanders in and is disappointed by the huge crowd that doesn't care about him, confirmed by his family at home listening to podcasts rather than him too.

Bart and Homer go to visit Abe and find him making out with some lady who turns out to be a famous actress (Morgan Fairchild voices).

The actress goes missing on a cruise and Abe is the prime suspect. Kent Brockman announces he's going to investigate by launching a new podcast. It's a big hit. Kent runs into Yeardley Smith at a meeting of podcasters where she recommends he tone it back a bit. The podcast has whipped Springfield into a mob. Abe can't remember what happened but listens to the podcast and becomes convinced of his own guilt and pleads guilty.

Anyway it turns out the actress just faked her death and ran off to Mexico. Abe was supposed to follow with insurance money but was too senile to remember.

Also, Stellan Skarsgård and Bill Simmons were in this for some reason.

Actually some good jokes in this one and the plot hung together, so ... not the lowest point of the Simpsons.

A Kent Brockman episode, jesus christ.

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
I don't say evasion, I say avoision.

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs

no introduction needed?
no, introduction needed

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Filthy Haiku posted:

A Kent Brockman episode, jesus christ.

Yeah it was a weird choice. Especially when Dr. Hibbret shows up with evidence of Abe's innocence near the end (out of the blue) and the climax of the episode is Brockman relearning his ethics and exonerating Abe in front of a crowd instead of continuing to use Abe's case to fuel his podcast fame.

The better episode is obviously Marge and Lisa use their knowledge of the true crime genre to crack the case. Instead Hibbert just shows up out of the blue to swat down the central mystery. Marge and Lisa's arc ends like 2/3rds of the way through the episode when they realize that they think Abe is guilty because everything they've learned from podcasts steer them in that direction. And then they learn not to trust salcious podcasts. It feels like the whole back half of the episode was written to deliver Yeardley Smith's views on ethics in podcasting.

PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Nov 16, 2020

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

That was the first new ep I've watched in more than a decade, wanted to see if Doughboys cameo had a speaking line (it didn't).

I know it's been said before, but holy cow Julie Kavner needs to step down. Get a replacement or retire the character. Hibbert sounded off too.

I did chuckle at the climate change joke where Homer looks out one window at a blizzard and then out another window where a firestorm is taking place.

Of course we have a Springfield angry mob, Sideshow Mel yelling, and the Yeardley Smith cameo stops the ep dead. Like when Stephen King showed up in Sons of Anarchy to signal it was time to stop watching.

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


The simpsons still has new episodes actually airing? loving weird.

pooch516
Mar 10, 2010

Hyrax Attack! posted:


Get a replacement or retire the character. Hibbert sounded off too.


Did they get a new voice actor for him? I saw some clips of the new voice this Carl, but haven't heard what they were doing with other black characters.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



pooch516 posted:

Did they get a new voice actor for him? I saw some clips of the new voice this Carl, but haven't heard what they were doing with other black characters.

Looks like Alex Désert, Carl's new voice actor, also does Hibbert.

quote:

Alex Désert (pronounced Dez-air) is the new and current voice actor of Carl Carlson, Roy Snyder, & Julius Hibbert. He made his debut in the Season 32 premiere episode, "Undercover Burns" replacing Hank Azaria.


I'm mostly surprised at seeing a Bodega Boys reference in that clip from the latest episode.

Skeletome
Feb 4, 2011

Tell them about the tournament!

PostNouveau posted:

It feels like the whole back half of the episode was written to deliver Yeardley Smith's views on ethics in podcasting.

oof

bus hustler
Mar 14, 2019

Ha Ha Ha... YES!

this is... not bad, as someone who watches way too much true crime whenever i'm at my mom's

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

bus hustler posted:

this is... not bad, as someone who watches way too much true crime whenever i'm at my mom's

It’s an ok bit but it def goes on way too long.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Lies.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
It bugs me they spelled out the same joke 3 times in that clip.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
I hate that in that clip and most modern clips you can feel how much they think they're being ultra hip and witty. If you actually watch an episode it flip flops between that unearned smugness and seeming like they put absolutely no effort or thought into it at all and an algorithm wrote it. I think the no effort-ness wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't also mixed with them all but looking into the camera saying "We are very funny and clever writers. This is very funny and clever."

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Das Boo posted:

It bugs me they spelled out the same joke 3 times in that clip.

There's jokes?

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

There's jokes?

Sorry, you're right: processed joke product.

Lemon
May 22, 2003

Also jokes about female vocal fry in podcasts are about 4, 5 years old by now?

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Lemon posted:

Also jokes about female vocal fry in podcasts are about 4, 5 years old by now?

Yeah, even Serial feels like a stale reference point. I'll admit, the name of the podcast got a mildly amused exhalation through my nose, but that's not much.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
I've been thinking about how the lowest point of good Simpsons was the extremely violent child abuse played as a joke

nah
Mar 16, 2009

That’s because it was a joke

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Haha, now I get it. An adult man is strangling a 9 year old, but it's funny because he deserves it!

It was a bad running ... Gag... And it aged even worse

womb with a view
Sep 8, 2007

I watched a clip from the casino episode where Lisa is crying over her lovely costume, and Homer tears up in empathy then wipes it away as he resolves to get Marge back. Just such a little detail that you'd take for granted, he's upset because his daughter is sad and he cares about her. It felt like they were a family even if Homer was sometimes crappy at it.

nah
Mar 16, 2009

ikanreed posted:

Haha, now I get it. An adult man is strangling a 9 year old, but it's funny because he deserves it!

It was a bad running ... Gag... And it aged even worse

Maybe comedy isn’t for you OP

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bus hustler
Mar 14, 2019

Ha Ha Ha... YES!
I think in some levels the gag has to be seen as the evolution of the "why I aughta" and "one of these days, pow!" family TV sitcom gag (which is also a bad gag) and not seen from modern sensibilities as someone deciding "ha ha child abuse is funny." It was very much "this isn't your parents family sitcom!" as much as anything else

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