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I saw this adaptor that allows non-Tesla EV's to charge at Tesla Level 2 chargers: https://www.evwest.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=471 This is an adaptor that allows a Telsa AC powering charging station to recharge any car with a J1772 inlet. You can charge your converted car at any of the Tesla destination charging stations, many of which offer free charging. Not compatible in Europe. Plug any modern EV in North American or Japan into any Alternating Current (AC) powered Tesla UMC / mobile connector / HPWC / wall connector. There are thousands of these throughout North America and Japan. Alternating Current (AC) is the type of electricity in your house or business. Since Level 2 Tesla Chargers are EVERYWHERE in SoCal, does this make sense to get? Here's a cheaper one: https://www.homedepot.com/p/LECTRON..._-313326034-_-N VideoGameVet fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Nov 17, 2020 |
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I'm pretty sure I saw one that was under $200, maybe there are more. Just to be clear it would not work with a Supercharger. Otherwise if you're having trouble finding a charge, could be worth it??
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Charles posted:I'm pretty sure I saw one that was under $200, maybe there are more. Just to be clear it would not work with a Supercharger. Otherwise if you're having trouble finding a charge, could be worth it?? There's a bunch of Tesla Level 2 chargers in Malibu (near work) and in La Costa (where I live). Have to think about that. VideoGameVet fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Nov 17, 2020 |
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Yeah the main reason I want one is if I'm ever at a hotel with destination charging, I could take advantage of that
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VideoGameVet posted:There's a bunch of Tesla Level 2 chargers in Malibu (near work) and in La Costa (where I live). Have to think about that. You drive over 2 hours up the coast and back every day?
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LibCrusher posted:You drive over 2 hours up the coast and back every day? iirc he does a M-R consultant style schedule
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Interesting... http://www.setec-power.com/ccs-adapter/. Doing what Tesla won't/hasn't yet. There have been videos posted on /r/teslamotors and also on TMC of adapters looking just like this charging on CCS Type 1 stations.
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stevewm posted:Interesting... What are the chances of turning your Tesla into a fireball with this?
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Westy543 posted:What are the chances of turning your Tesla into a fireball with this? Not zero, but it's probably just as fine as the CHAdeMO adapter. I'd like to see someone else test it first though. A Model 3/Y (and I guess the newest S/X) can suck a lot of amps from the fastest CCS chargers. If there's a flaw somewhere, 500A will find it.
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I need to give this thread a break. Last night I had a dream about using one of those universal plug adapters to charge my EV out on the road on some kind of road trip and it was a real lifesaver. I don't even own an EV.
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Looks like Tesla's discontinuing the $35k Model 3. https://www.engadget.com/tesla-35k-model-3-sales-done-194908853.html Was it ever really a thing? I'm guessing their next $25k car will actually be $35k for the first few years before the SR/2wd gets axed too lol.
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VideoGameVet posted:I saw this adaptor that allows non-Tesla EV's to charge at Tesla Level 2 chargers: I have one of these and have been charging a Chevy Spark and Kia Soul EV for a couple years now. It's been great, the only issue is it can expand and get really snug with weather fluctuations, and be really hard to put on all the way or pull off. I also got mine from this site if people want a third option: http://www.umc-j1772.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=50
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mobby_6kl posted:Looks like Tesla's discontinuing the $35k Model 3. It may have been briefly available online but in general you had to call or go in person and jump through hoops to get one. They're already exporting made in China Teslas to the EU, they could probably export a fairly cheap version to the US with a lower battery spec.
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MomJeans420 posted:It may have been briefly available online but in general you had to call or go in person and jump through hoops to get one. They're already exporting made in China Teslas to the EU, they could probably export a fairly cheap version to the US with a lower battery spec. Our import tariffs on Chinese goods are too high. Maybe that'll change with the new White House administration, we'll see.
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mobby_6kl posted:Looks like Tesla's discontinuing the $35k Model 3. Tesla probably saw almost no one was ordering it to start with even when it was easier to order.
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There's a lot of media focus every single time an EV catches fire especially if it's a Tesla. I saw this today about Chevy Bolts: https://www.engadget.com/gm-recalls-chevy-bolt-over-battery-fire-reports-230044311.html
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Tesla probably saw almost no one was ordering it to start with even when it was easier to order. More likely they don't want anyone to order it since it probably only exists so they can say they hit their price target of 35k.
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So over the weekend I got a raspberry pi 4 B and installed TeslaMate on it... wow these cars dump a lot of telemetry (and I'm guessing Tesla gets even more)! Highly recommend it (or if you aren't up to something as involved, there are commercial apps that do it all for you but they do require your tesla login to work).
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TeslaMate owns. I installed it in May, and logged 5,800 miles. My cost per 100 miles is $0.95.
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gwrtheyrn posted:More likely they don't want anyone to order it since it probably only exists so they can say they hit their price target of 35k. Well, yeah. And we all know to ignore any precise numbers coming from Tesla. But its not like they raised the price to a million dollars either. The starting price is now $38k.
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Bandire posted:Well, yeah. And we all know to ignore any precise numbers coming from Tesla. But its not like they raised the price to a million dollars either. The starting price is now $38k. This point was somehow always lost in the complaints about the $35k vapourcar
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Beffer posted:This point was somehow always lost in the complaints about the $35k vapourcar Well, that price cut only happened in May. The actual cheapest Tesla other than the vapourware car was $40k until then. $35k to $40k isn’t a trivial difference.
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Yo if you're in California, looks like almost every EV just got $1,500 cheaper? I only saw this today on a happen chance of looking at Tesla's configurator. https://cleanfuelreward.com/ $1,500 off the msrp, and it stacks with the $2,000 from cvrp. Seems kind of new? Scaling discount on same price from 5 kWh battery, up to full $1,500 at 16 kWh.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Well, that price cut only happened in May. The actual cheapest Tesla other than the vapourware car was $40k until then. $35k to $40k isn’t a trivial difference. Certainly those two decisions were connected though? And yeah, $5k isn't trivial to most people, but we are actually talking about $3k, which is objectively more trivial than $5k. Tesla deserves plenty of ire for the stupid poo poo they do, but too much is being made of this mostly ceremonious price increase. If anything they should have been shamed more for artificially maintaining this stupid faux $35k price tag by hiding it and then software-decontenting the car, all so they can hit an arbitrary price promise for PR reasons.
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I’d wager that the average transaction price for a new Model 3 is well north of $40k anyway. Given how tenuous Tesla’s ability to produce a $35k Model 3 ever was, I don’t understand the surprise that they’re giving up on the idea. They only just managed it in the first place, and then did just about everything in their power to discourage people from actually buying one at that price. (The software-locked Canadian versions remain hilarious to me.) It doesn’t change the fact that despite all of the fuss and drama and keyboard thrashing, they still sold over a half-million of the things in three years.
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I'm not mad about it since I was never going to buy it anyway. But they made a big deal of the 35k EV and are now doing the same with the 25k one so it's pretty funny.
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mobby_6kl posted:I'm not mad about it since I was never going to buy it anyway. But they made a big deal of the 35k EV and are now doing the same with the 25k one so it's pretty funny.
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mobby_6kl posted:I'm not mad about it since I was never going to buy it anyway. But they made a big deal of the 35k EV and are now doing the same with the 25k one so it's pretty funny. Their competition took the $35k price point seriously and built cars that were profitable at that price point. We'll see if the same price race happens again. Ford has already suggested that a $20k EV is in the pipeline but of course no details except the intended price.
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Westy543 posted:Yo if you're in California, looks like almost every EV just got $1,500 cheaper? I only saw this today on a happen chance of looking at Tesla's configurator. My Model S hasn't been registered yet but I don't see on their website a way to claim it other than going through the retailer. This rebate isn't limited by MSRP like the CVRP is.
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The Bolt is already down to starting at $28k, and hits 25k with the current Costco discount. I can't imagine it would be that difficult to hit sub 20k in the next few years if you really wanted to try. GM could probably get close today if they brought the spark EV back Jimong5 fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Nov 18, 2020 |
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LibCrusher posted:You drive over 2 hours up the coast and back every day? I drive up on Tuesday, back home Thursday. With the (finally!) carpool stickers it's 1:45 to go up from Carlsbad and about 2:00 to go back. Folding bike to get around during the week. The trip back was as long as 3 hours before I got the stickers, although "active cruising" at 75-80 mph in the car pool lane with stopped traffic to the right is a bit terrifying, but that's what the traffic is doing. I used to do this with Amtrak (2018-2020) and the bike but with COVID the wife and I agreed that the risk was too great. Hence leasing a Niro EV, which is a really nice car.
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Jimong5 posted:The Bolt is already down to starting at $28k, and hits 25k with the current Costco discount. I can't imagine it would be that difficult to hit sub 20k in the next few years if you really wanted to try.  Chevrolet discontinued the Spark EV because, when forced to make an EV, they accidentally made a good one, so they had to kill it and replace it with the Bolt.
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Just got a copy of the county permit from Tesla since I need it to file for my state solar rebate. The permit was issued mid-August. No idea what happened during the two months from mid-August thru mid-October when Tesla kept telling me that they were waiting on the permit to schedule the install.
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RZA Encryption posted:
I suspect it's because they only sell 20-30k Sparks per year, and in the entire run they didn't even make it to 7500 EVs. Compared to 15-20k Bolts per year.
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VideoGameVet posted:With the (finally!) carpool stickers it's 1:45 to go up from Carlsbad and about 2:00 to go back. Folding bike to get around during the week. How long did it take to get your stickers? I’ve been waiting forever!
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Honda is starting to aggressively campaign the e here, doing ads on amazon(which is a rarity for items outside the shop) https://www.honda.it/cars/new/honda-e/offers/honda-e.html 25k€ starting price without the battery rental bullshit(which was the zoe party trick to advertise a less than 30k price) is starting to look good even with the e anemic battery,
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Godholio posted:I suspect it's because they only sell 20-30k Sparks per year, and in the entire run they didn't even make it to 7500 EVs. Compared to 15-20k Bolts per year. They sold as many as they wanted to/were forced to. I promise this is the only baseless conspiracy theory I spread on the internet. It's a good car!! Buy one, they're cheap!
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SlowBloke posted:Honda is starting to aggressively campaign the e here, doing ads on amazon(which is a rarity for items outside the shop) What the gently caress? it starts at 40k CHF here which is €37k. It's so cute.
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Does anyone else find it strange that our EVs have onboard AC chargers? I know it probably sounds dumb but hear me out. It's not a matter of if but when most new cars will be electric. The high powered onboard chargers in EVs aren't cheap, especially 11kW+ ones. And you can bet the EV manufacturers will be looking at them when considering the bottom line. If we buy AC/DC chargers for our homes, they'll be more expensive, sure, but I bet the lower EV prices will offset that. We don't have AC chargers in our phones and laptops. And I bet our EVs in 15+ years won't either.
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