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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



One 1x1 foot interior starship thingy done, eight more to go.


Next up berthing and bunks for the crew and stormies, complete with someplace to practice marksmanship:

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hoiyes
May 17, 2007
That's rad. One way or another I'll have an ender 5 by the end of the year, are you selling them somewhere?

I reckon inteiror maps would make for a great melee grinder skirmish.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



hoiyes posted:

That's rad. One way or another I'll have an ender 5 by the end of the year, are you selling them somewhere?

I reckon inteiror maps would make for a great melee grinder skirmish.

Not my STLs, but you can pick them up for a very reasonable tenbuxx at https://blacksitestudio.com/product/the-orbital/

The scatter and detail stuff like generators and terminals bunks and terlets and medbay beds and poo poo is just random stuff from my STL collection.

They print up easy peasy with no supports.

For the hangar instead of printing I'm going to use some 1 foot by 1 foot high gloss black plexiglass.

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer
Finished up this bad boy over the weekend. Super fun to build & paint.






The paint scheme was based off the landspeeder that's at Galaxy's Edge



Also got & painted up Luke:


Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Nice! love the subtle weathering job on the speeder.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
That's a good job on Luke too!

Also, this:

Changes afoot?

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Asmodee has been doing some weird restructuring, like they moved their RPGs to some spanish subsidiary and now these are being moved to Atomic (Who makes the excellent Marvel: Crisis Protocol). It's possible they decided that having FFG do everything was a mistake and want them to focus on card games and moved other stuff to more specialized houses. I think its a decision I'm all for because FFG has been dogged by slow releases and poor distribution for ages.

RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Nov 17, 2020

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

God only knows when I'll get the chance to play again, but how are folks finding the Clan Wren troops?

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING

RagnarokAngel posted:

Asmodee has been doing some weird restructuring, like they moved their RPGs to some spanish subsidiary and now these are being moved to Atomic (Who makes the excellent Marvel: Crisis Protocol). It's possible they decided that having FFG do everything was a mistake and want them to focus on card games and moved other stuff to more specialized houses. I think its a decision I'm all for because FFG has been dogged by slow releases and poor distribution for ages.

Pretty much where I'm at. It feels like FFG has too much stuff going on and that they have been lacking focus. As they are moving people along with projects hopefully that means stuff happens more smoothly.

Legion would be a much bigger game if it was reliably in stock I think. I don't hear of MCP being perpetually sold out but then I don't really look.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Dawgstar posted:

God only knows when I'll get the chance to play again, but how are folks finding the Clan Wren troops?

Having played against them, they’re a unit you absolutely have to deal with. Surges on both sets of dice can make them death trooper-levels of nasty/durable, and they’re mobile enough to be slippery as well.

Gumdrop Larry
Jul 30, 2006

Over the last couple years of Legion existing I've been really impressed by Alex Davy and Luke Eddy. Davy in particular, being the creator and more on the spot for interviews and questions, came across as genuinely caring about the game and demonstrated a pretty deep appreciation for good design and balance with his citation of other specific board games and other wargames. I've always maintained that while the IP is obviously a big draw for a lot of people, Legion legitimately encompasses a lot of components of elegant and modern design that leads to a fairly clean game that's very tactical and satisfying to play. With the transition I'm hinging a lot of my expectations on confirmation as to whether or not those guys are part of the group of "key members involved in the creation and evolution" of the game moving studios. Basically if Davy's going along with his game I'm optimistic, and if he's axed then I'm extremely worried. There's a really brilliant game underneath the surface here that was gaining a lot of momentum pre-pandemic, and I want it to stick around.

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer
Well it’s being reported that Alex Davy was let go.

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


As well as Gernes and Holland.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I was pretty neutral on the news, since the only downstream effect I saw of them restructuring the RPG was the core books and screens went OOP less frequently, but dumping Davy kind of sucks hog balls.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
Honestly, I think Davy was kinda being wasted on Legion. He's a creative. You can see the dude has a million ideas entering his brain every second and has that drive to chase down any one of them. With Disney and LFL approvals, and Asomdee probably weighing into, or taking more interest in, the release schedules would be a little fixed. They're already drawing from canon and would've plotted out desired releases years in advance. Very limiting. If the rumours are true, I'd love to see him take on a project that he owns wholly. All games designers have their side/dream project -- and with a sizeable crowd of fans, name recognition, kickstarter and time -- he's got all the tools to get a truly interesting passion project over the line.

I think losing the lead developer is probably a bigger hit in terms of worrying about game balance continuity, as they deal with the nitty-gritty rules specifics and points values tweaks etc. And I sure hope that doesn't mean they're going to start looking for new playtesters because the most recent releases were actually dead in the sweet spot of 'very competitive, not oppressive'. And Holland too would be a big loss, as I don't think FFG had a community-facing employee who knew more about their games, and could comment on them with competitive insight, as him. Also he posts (posted?) here occasionally.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?





So I'm going to add some gantries and a bit more clutter but also a third ship. Which do you think would pop better on the 1x3 hangar section: A bomber or interceptor? It's a couple hundred grams of FDM filament either way.


E: Alex Davy confirms he was unceremoniously shitcanned. :\

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Nov 18, 2020

HebrewMagic
Jul 19, 2012

Police Assault In Progress
I've always been partial to the Bomber look imo

Gumdrop Larry
Jul 30, 2006

Yeah, gonna go ahead and take that pessimistic stance. Obviously it's a pretty cold and sterile bullshit capitalist move you'd expect from Asmodee for short-term profit and more importantly for people's well being, but that initial AMG Q&A letter didn't exactly inspire confidence either. It may be that pessimism tinting the lens on it, but it reads less to me like they're saying "we intend to adhere to the design ethos and system that's been handed to us faithfully," and more like "well we've got this now and are gonna do whatever we feel like with it." Moreover I may just be reading too much into a hastily made fairly generic statement that they had to rush out.

Either way, I hope Davy stays within the realm of creating minis games and will absolutely be on the ground floor for anything new he spearheads.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Private Equity firms, man.

I tell myself that even if they gently caress it up and kill it I still have hundreds of dollies and a complete game, but tabletop games are nothing without a network of people actively playing, which is why when it was decent and when it's been bad, motherfuckers have always played 40k. It's like the lingua franca of space wargame dollies.




On the printer now:
The indoor range.



"Okay, I can do this. Feet firmly planted shoulder-width apart. Aggressive lean. Elbow out. Support hand forward on the handguard. Just breathe."

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
I mean, if you want cold objectivity, Legion has been doing well despite itself. It's spent about half its life in a lovely NPE meta with Tauns/Shores first and then Clone standbys/ARCs which is far more egregious than say, the triple upsilon poo poo from Xwing that got hot fixed. They've had two cracks at designing Darth Vader, the most iconic character in Star Wars, and he's still garbage, of the 10 core units in the game only 3 are regarded as competitive. Han Solo is total garbage. Rebel Heavy vehicles are junk.

The game is fun as heck thanks to excellent core rules (which took a lot of inspiration from Bolt Action) but the unit design has been extremely uneven, with the notable exception of the most recent wave.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
I think in short there's not enough info to really know yet.

But my gut says either second edition or a 1.5 rebalancing in the summer. They won't rock the boat until after Lando/Kallus are out which is probably march. Maybe even a bit after that depending on what they already have queued up for production.

The biggest thing they could do to kick legion up a notch in popularity though is to invest in proper stock levels so that you can actually buy core units like B2 droids or phase 2 clones. If you can't buy the minis, you don't buy into the game.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


This certainly dashes my hopes for an eventual Ewok mini-faction to go with the Endor rebels. I just want Chewie on an ATST, an Ewok glider, and paploo with some rebs on bikes

Gumdrop Larry
Jul 30, 2006

In lighter news the fresh out of the oven RRG update seems to be essentially nothing but positive. The expected clone standby sharing nerf alongside tons of basic rule tweaks and points reductions at first blush seems to make a lot of older stuff newly viable. There's a lot to parse here.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2020/11/19/updated-mission-parameters/

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



They need to give up on cards and give us an app with the option to print everything on a sheet or display it on a tablet with all this hard errata.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
They know that the community will do it near instantly so why bother.

Fifth trooper already have a breakdown article with points changes table and their associated Legion HQ army builder has the points changes done already.

Lots of small sensible changes and mostly predictable points changes here.

Some cool rules stuff include units being able to shoot from Open transports and are now separately targetable with heavy cover, instead of auto wounds if you wound the vehicle. GAV with an Eweb gonna be really hilarious.

Also Field Commanders (only Aayla and Tseries droid) can count as Commanders for list building, and have a courage 2 bubble.

hoiyes fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Nov 20, 2020

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



hoiyes posted:

Some cool rules stuff include units being able to shoot from Open transports and are now separately targetable with heavy cover, instead of auto wounds if you wound the vehicle. GAV with an Eweb gonna be really hilarious.

Space Technical.

Also looking forward to doing a Saber tank Secura skirmish list.

E: What I'd really like is one that can spit out a hard copy of the list as it would appear with erattaed cards with the rules text, but none of the major ones seem to do that.

E2: I found out that Battlescribe has the output I want.

LOL, "Skirmish"

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Nov 20, 2020

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer
I don't know why but apparently at some point I thought I needed 5 units of Rebel Troopers.



This is what's next for my painting queue! Got some more stuff arriving today for them as well.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Nice Hoth Luke.

IMO do some head swaps before you start painting. It will really break up the monotony of 5 units of rebel troops on the table.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Lol I’ve got 5 as well. 2 cores worth, plus bought another.

I cannibalized soldiers from there, the vet squads, the trooper upgrade box, and the rebel specialist box to get what I’ve got now (a random mix and humans and aliens spread through 4 squads that are whatever unit I want them to be in that game).

Funzo
Dec 6, 2002



I've got 5 squads of Rebel troopers too. Must be a thing. I've also got a Snowspeeder, which I used once and realized that it's terrible and will never earn it's points back in a game before getting shot down by the average squad of Stormtroopers.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Last update had snowspeeders come down again (to 130 points), gave them surge->crit, and they get the harpoon for free now. I’ve been joking about running a list with 2 of them for a while now, but at that cost I may actually do it :v:

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Might be time to dust off the one I hobbied up with the almost perfect scale model with lighted canopy.

Funzo
Dec 6, 2002



I am also, just now, assembling my Stormtroopers from the two core boxes I got at launch.

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer
I ordered a T-47 which just got delivered today. I'm not expecting it to do well, but I love the model and I'm bad at this game anyway.

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008

Icon Of Sin posted:

Last update had snowspeeders come down again (to 130 points), gave them surge->crit, and they get the harpoon for free now. I’ve been joking about running a list with 2 of them for a while now, but at that cost I may actually do it :v:

Don't forget that they can now opt to perform their compulsory move at the end of their activation.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Another 1x1 foot section printed: barracks berths and refresher, small arms locker and shooting range.









So once the 'rona is under control, I plan to put all the cool tables I'm working on into action running a weekly casual escalation skirmish league at the FLGS.

Thoughts about this structure?

Play casual, match yourselves and have fun.

Play a game: 2 points
Win a game: 1 point
Play against an opponent you have not yet played this season: 1 point

Feats of grandeur (1 point each):
Come and take it!- Defeat a Force unit with an attack from a trooper unit.
They told me they fixed it- Roll a blank result with a pool of 6 or more dice.
All too easy- Hold your opponent to 0 objective points a winning game.
Secret Mission? What Secret mission? - Win a game where you score either a Secret Mission or Bounty objective point.
Duel of the fates - Defeat a force unit with another force unit
Not a scratch - Suffer 0 wounds from an attack where 6 or more hits/crits were rolled.
(more suggestions along these lines welcome)

Rewards (3d printed by the organizer, will revise to include Asmodee support as well)
5 Points: Trooper unit LOS silhouette tool.
10 points- 6 sided ehicle Resilliance disabled/destroyed/damaged marker die.
20 points- Alternate sculpt printed figure.
30 points- Medium terrain piece.

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer
Started working on threepio


Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



The beauty of Threepio is you're drat near done with him too, save for an ink wash, if you're fussy a highlight, and detailing the tummy wires.

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer
I put a ton of work into him and you can barely tell! Haha.

I primed him glossy black then did an overall coat of Scale 75 Decayed Metal. That was followed up with Dwarven Gold with a couple drops of sepia ink from an upper angle. To push the highlights I sprayed the under bits with just a direct application of Sepia ink. Final highlight was Elven gold from the highest angle.

For the silver I applied it by hand, but it was Heavy Metal, Speed Metal & White Alchemy.

I used Tamiya panel liner dark brown for the gold and black for the silver.

The eyes are lamenter yellow over white.

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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Aw man I didn't mean to crap on your work. Sometimes the camera takes a lot away. Hugs, my main man.

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