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Sagebrush posted:ironically, it's probably one of the safer planes out there now, assuming they fixed everything correctly; few other aircraft designs will have been gone over in as much detail as the MAX. I've mulled it over for years whether to call this the Odwalla effect or the Jack In The Box effect. I never realized those were both regional (Washington/Seattle centric) though.
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The JT15 uses an electric starter/generator, and I don't think the S-211 has an APU. What it DOES have is a vapor-cycle pack for pressurization and heating/cooling. Safe money is that duct leads to the heat exchanger(s) for the pack(s?).
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MrYenko posted:The JT15 uses an electric starter/generator, and I don't think the S-211 has an APU. What it DOES have is a vapor-cycle pack for pressurization and heating/cooling. Safe money is that duct leads to the heat exchanger(s) for the pack(s?). Vapor cycle for heating, too? That's interesting. Is it still using bleed air for pressurization?
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slidebite posted:A cruise is still a good way to have a chance of seeing a green flash sunset though. Is this actually a thing, or is this the joke?
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Nov 20, 2020 20:50
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMq3cqO__Yw I've tried looking for it many times, never seen it.
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I always presumed a flight deck would have too many lights to be able to get a proper impression of the stars and milky way. I'm lucky enough to live in a dark sky area and it's so beautiful, you can see messier clusters with your naked eye and even andromeda if you know what to look for. The biggest thing people struggle with is that they have to let their eyes adjust for at least 30 minutes with no artificial light...and well people STRUGGLE hard to not look at their phone for that long ruining their vision. 
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Nov 20, 2020 21:08
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This is an unusual way to hunt for mountain goats. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8djWfNmJlKo
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Nov 20, 2020 21:29
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helno posted:This is an unusual way to hunt for mountain goats. Jesus spray making GBS threads christ. I forgot what you said about mountain goats, I was just enjoying a nice gliding video which I do from time to time. Then suddenly they were on death's door. Really shows how it can sneak up on you, but they did walk into it on purpose. Looks like the ol' "if you dive fast through it, it doesn't count".
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Nov 20, 2020 21:42
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Turning into the mountains in clouds was a real mistake, I think they might have hit sink and gotten slow trying to fight it, but I didn't pay attention to all their instruments.
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Nov 20, 2020 22:11
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Flying a glider around clouds seems dumb to begin with, throwing in mountains as well is even more dumb.
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shame on an IGA posted:no that's real Literally a blink and you miss it though.
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helno posted:This is an unusual way to hunt for mountain goats. This is illegal as well as against common sense, right?
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I have never considered whether gliders can be flown IFR, but it's certainly missing most of the equipment that would be required to do so in the USA at least. It hasn't even got an attitude indicator. Jeeeeesus christ that guy though. Incredibly stupid decision to get into the clouds, but he doesn't even seem to be watching his loving instruments. Pay attention from about 2:30 and you can see he's got at least three indications that he's in a dive: the variometer is blooping, you can see his airspeed rapidly increasing, and of course the altimeter is winding down. But he doesn't appear to realize what is going on. Unbelievable Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Nov 20, 2020 |
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helno posted:This is an unusual way to hunt for mountain goats. the suggested videos lead to another clip of some idiot flying a glider pass 6" over the runway and then attempting the 180 of death, with predictable results
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Sagebrush posted:I have never considered whether gliders can be flown IFR, but it's certainly missing most of the equipment that would be required to do so in the USA at least. It hasn't even got an attitude indicator. Apparently the answer is yes, gliders absolutely can fly IFR, you need to be an instrument rated private pilot of course. Theres a lot of racing/soaring/other special stuff going on up in class A airspace after all. In looking for this I found a more fun question, can balloons fly IFR? https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/balloon-ifr.90058/
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Sagebrush posted:I have never considered whether gliders can be flown IFR, but it's certainly missing most of the equipment that would be required to do so in the USA at least. It hasn't even got an attitude indicator. The more typical way to fly a glider inside the instrument system is to be over 18,000 feet. In areas where that's possible, you often have glider boxes that get opened when someone wants to go for altitude, but no one is exactly flying IFR in those conditions.
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I should have been more precise in my wording; I could see how there are safe and legal situations where you would fly a glider IFR, but flying one in IMC seems much sketchier. How do you do a missed approach?
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Sagebrush posted:I should have been more precise in my wording; I could see how there are safe and legal situations where you would fly a glider IFR, but flying one in IMC seems much sketchier. How do you do a missed approach? RATO
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Sagebrush posted:I should have been more precise in my wording; I could see how there are safe and legal situations where you would fly a glider IFR, but flying one in IMC seems much sketchier. How do you do a missed approach? Very carefully?
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There is some weird regulation stuff with gliders, they're basically allowed to fly in cloud (which is not equivalent to flying IFR and/or in controlled airspace). But that doesn't mean they should. It's not like the biggest problem of IMC is that the law comes and infringes upon your freedoms, it's mostly the mountain that does it.
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Nov 20, 2020 22:59
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Aeronautical Insanity: It is not the air law you should worry about, it is the mountain law
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Letmebefrank posted:Aeronautical Insanity: It is not the air law you should worry about, it is the mountain law "found cumulogranite instead" (from the linked reddit post)
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Nov 20, 2020 23:25
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Neither air law or alternate law yields to Newton's law.
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Letmebefrank posted:Aeronautical Insanity: It is not alternate law you should worry about, it is the mountain law
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Love the part where there’s essentially a Y in the road and one way has visibility and the other is complete cloud cover over mountains and they choose the latter. Ffffuuuuuuuck that.
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helno posted:This is an unusual way to hunt for mountain goats. I though they crashed when the camera flipped backwards
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I've never flown a glider but I feel like you're just poking around in clouds up high and would only do visual approaches to airports.
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Sagebrush posted:I should have been more precise in my wording; I could see how there are safe and legal situations where you would fly a glider IFR, but flying one in IMC seems much sketchier. How do you do a missed approach? I don't think missing is an option.
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Godholio posted:I don't think missing is an option. Yeah at some point you are going to hit something, question is do you get to choose what you are hitting and how.
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Oh like you all don't needlessly go IIMC in mountainous terrain just to spice things up a lil' gimme a break.
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Sagebrush posted:I should have been more precise in my wording; I could see how there are safe and legal situations where you would fly a glider IFR, but flying one in IMC seems much sketchier. How do you do a missed approach? Gliders don't do missed approaches
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The "missed" approach procedure is lining up on whatever seems like it will hurt the least while you experience a sense of longing for your airfield.
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Pro-click article: https://taskandpurpose.com/.amp/news/air-force-nuke-sniffer-retirement-lucifers-chariot
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Pro-click article: https://taskandpurpose.com/.amp/news/air-force-nuke-sniffer-retirement-lucifers-chariot quote:But the planes replacing them, three renovated KC-135R tankers that once belonged to the National Guard, are no spring chickens either. In fact, they’re nearly as old as 582, the Omaha-World reported. 
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Yeah, but maybe these were built on a Wednesday!
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And no plans to procure a proper (ie not built during the Kennedy Administration) replacement (I assume)...at least until someone comes up with a way to enrich the Congresscritters involved
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:And no plans to procure a proper (ie not built during the Kennedy Administration) replacement (I assume)...at least until someone comes up with a way to enrich the Congresscritters involved General dynamics sniffer kit on a 737 max, raytheon systems design, a lockmart as primary contractor, work done at a ng facility.
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