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I'm going through this book that my dad gave me after I asked him for something on Colombia's history and it's just been a trip. I never knew much about the country they ended up leaving in the late 1970's in their mid-20's and while they necessarily didn't live through the worst of it, being in Medellín, the history of violence in the country is just jaw-dropping. I understand better why my mom didn't bat an eye at 9/11, her response then being, it's awful and terrible, but this pales to the violence we have lived through in Colombia. I'm not yet done but I've just hit the chapters on the narcos and their eventual paramilitary groups, that they funded to fight the guerillas and also the just insane amount of daily assassination and terror they sowed to avoid extradition to the US. And like that's bad enough without even considering all the politically/economically driven violence from the previous centuries. It's left me reeling. The author doesn't sugar-coat anything and he seems to be fairly upright in his re-telling and his main guiding line is how this history of violence and disunion links all the way back to the way the Spanish ran the colony, and he makes a fair case for it, based on what we said earlier difficult centralization based on geography, interests, and infrastructure. --- Anyway I felt like bringing that up, because despite the relative good news coming out of the US, I'm pretty sure it won't do anyone south of the border any favors. I'm just hoping Biden will go a touch easier on migrants and democratically elected leftist governments, but considering the US public and traditional policy, I won't be holding my breath.
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I'd vote for Morales if he ran in America.
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Morales is not wrong about the big picture, but I live in a border city and I know a lot of people who would strongly disagree that nothing will change.
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At least in the original Spanish tweet, it says for Bolivian society
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There is a lot of racism against Bolivians in Argentina, to the point that when I was a teenager calling someone a Bolivian was pretty much the equivalent of using the N-word in the US. Not a lot of things give me hope or pride these days, but I feel that way about how my lovely country protected Evo and called the Dictatorship what it was from day 1.
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https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1325812107531735041?s=19 https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1325813230590185472?s=19 https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1325834960624898048?s=19 WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Nov 9, 2020 |
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GimmickMan posted:There is a lot of racism against Bolivians in Argentina, to the point that when I was a teenager calling someone a Bolivian was pretty much the equivalent of using the N-word in the US. Not a lot of things give me hope or pride these days, but I feel that way about how my lovely country protected Evo and called the Dictatorship what it was from day 1. dont get too excited https://twitter.com/ukigoni/status/1325826226704044040 https://twitter.com/gene_llerena/status/1325766451932913664
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https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/1325868311482163202 The times continues their sterling record.
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RPZip posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/1325868311482163202  What the gently caress
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https://twitter.com/elpais_america/status/1325959114036490245?s=20 So, uh, Vizcarra just got ousted by Congress in Peru I'm not knowledgeable enough about the general situation, but Vizcarra (who wasn't elected, he took over as VP of disgraced president PPK) appeared to have reasonable approval ratings as he tackled members of congress on overall issues of corruption and transparency (I'm not even sure if Congress is still dominated by the various Fujimorista factions at this point) and he appears to have gotten impeached for bribery charges from before he took office. The handling of the pandemic probably didn't help, either (Perú's been hit pretty hard, even by Latin American standards). e: Here's an AP piece on it with a quick summary. Since Vizcarra's reasonably popular but Congress is very much not, it's being reported as a naked power grab. SexyBlindfold fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Nov 10, 2020 |
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RPZip posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/1325868311482163202 I’m assuming they cut out the middle man and just decided to let some Langley freak write this one.
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RPZip posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/1325868311482163202 To be fair, it's not like people in the US have a contemporary example of what a failed attempt to keep power would look like? Lmao This is straight up projection.
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RPZip posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/1325868311482163202 There's kind of a reason why the american empire has completely fractured and there is no long any sense of shared reality, when the paper of record is running stories in support of a christo-fascist coup for the benefit of center-right oligarchs in the imperial core
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Elias_Maluco posted:People used to called this piracy, I think From the previous page, but does anyone have any more information on this? It doesn't sound legal under either international or maritime law. Where did the US seize the tankers? Did they threaten to sink the tankers and then board with marines? Anyone know the names of the tankers? Holy poo poo. I would think a tanker from Iran to Venezuela would go south from Iran and around South Africa before sailing NW towards Venezuela and not at any time be within US jurisdiction.
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Thlom posted:From the previous page, but does anyone have any more information on this? It doesn't sound legal under either international or maritime law. Where did the US seize the tankers? Did they threaten to sink the tankers and then board with marines? Anyone know the names of the tankers? Holy poo poo. They're actually Liberian ships and they were seized in the Gulf of Oman by 'foreign partners'. https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/266100703/us-says-foreign-partners-seized-iranian-fuel-from-4-liberian-ships
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https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/recent-actions/20201026_33 is what made the tanker seizure “legal”. Selling the cargo probably falls under some office of foreign asset control forfeiture clause in US code. Like the laws that let police take US citizens stuff and sell it, but for non citizens.
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Two people protesting the congress’ impeachment of Vizcarra in Peru got killed by police last night. Also a poo poo ton of ministers apparently resigned
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I have many Peruvian connections I've made over the years, so my social media has been focused on Peru for the past week. Things are...not good. This AP article seems to suggest that Merino's stepping down will quell the protests, but I think that will be challenging after the night of heavy policing that saw 2 young people killed - brutally - and dozens more missing: https://apnews.com/article/martin-vizcarra-peru-lima-coronavirus-pandemic-latin-america-e2820e2ad346e4aff87f824fec62f675 Near as I can tell, the ousted president (Vizcarra) was impeached by corrupt politicians for the crime of...being a corrupt politician. Sounds like those charges are trumped up, since the congress was pissed that he was trying to clean things up. At least, that's the story I see around. Interested to see if others are following this, because poo poo looks really bad and I'd prefer my friends not be in harm's way.
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Don't think it's going to end with the resignation. https://twitter.com/bitterillegal/status/1327830732190875648
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If the congress picked Merino, and they’re going to also pick his replacement, it’s hard to see why people would stop protesting. Until there are elections I’d imagine protests would continue (but I’m not in Peru so what do I know). Reading about all of this, I have the strangest combination of disgust and humor about the parties in congress who voted to impeach Vizcarra and then pushed Merino to resign. Without understanding the finer points of Peruvian politics, all I can think of is this dril tweet, but the congress writing about Peru’s president https://twitter.com/dril/status/660644922744262656?s=21 edit: actually, I just read that another way out could be to annul the impeachment of Vizcarra, which they can apparently vote to do Redczar fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Nov 16, 2020 |
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Looking up Peru's government it seems that almost every party is either center right or far right.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Looking up Peru's government it seems that almost every party is either center right or far right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocacerism  
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Henry Scorpio posted:https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/recent-actions/20201026_33 is what made the tanker seizure “legal”. Selling the cargo probably falls under some office of foreign asset control forfeiture clause in US code. Like the laws that let police take US citizens stuff and sell it, but for non citizens.
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Thlom posted:It might be legal in the US, but I can't see how it can be legal under either international or maritime law for a foreign nation state to seize ships flying under another nations flag, with cargo owned by a third nation state, outside of the first nations jurisdiction. And then bring the ships home and even sell the cargo. Sounds like piracy to me. Why is this poo poo just accepted by the international community? Because it is a first world country doing it to a third world country and the international institutions exist to protect the interests of the former.
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Thlom posted:It might be legal in the US, but I can't see how it can be legal under either international or maritime law for a foreign nation state to seize ships flying under another nations flag, with cargo owned by a third nation state, outside of the first nations jurisdiction. And then bring the ships home and even sell the cargo. Sounds like piracy to me. Why is this poo poo just accepted by the international community? Did you miss when Britain seized the gold of Venezuela in their banks because America told them Guido was the true president. Piracy is accepted if USA authorizes it.
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What are Venezuela and Iran going to do, sue the US? Bring a case to the International Court of Justice that exists to resolve violations of international law exactly like this one? Whoops, turns out any binding decision by the ICJ can be vetoed by any member of the Security Council. Yes, this act of piracy is a violation of international law so big you could drive an oil tanker through it, but it's also evidence, as if more was needed, that international law is fundamentally about power. When it comes down to it, the US can do as it pleases internationally because it has the power to do so and ignore any condemnation from third parties.
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Marenghi posted:Did you miss when Britain seized the gold of Venezuela in their banks because America told them Guido was the true president. they might have to give it back! https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/06/world/europe/nicolas-maduro-venezuela-gold.html
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So who wants to bet which paper of note will write about the return to horrible authoritarian tendencies in Bolivia first? https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1328369993155817472?s=19 (Won't someone think of the coup generals)
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Well that's really great news. Doesn't look like another coup is going to come from the military. https://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1328523641382907904
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In 2020 you don't coup Venezuela. Venezuela coups you! https://twitter.com/NicoleGoodkind/status/1329484108842594312 Behold! Chavez achieving his revenge from beyond the grave, thwarting the US' Great It isn't mentioned in the tweet but Giuliani specifically blamed Chavez in his press conference today...
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Some Venezuela stuff. I will anticipate that the country will be in out and out civil war by this time next year. The Maduro government has lost essentially all of it's supporters.
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Yeah nah, it's just trots being trots.
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Eh no, looks like Maduro has also burnt his bridges with the Communist Party of Venezuela https://prensapcv.wordpress.com/2020/11/05/fnlct-apoya-a-la-apr-y-llama-a-la-clase-trabajadora-a-luchar-contra-el-dominio-del-capital/quote:Comrade Eusse read the draft Appeal to the Working Class to be submitted to the National Assembly for the consideration of the participants. Then the right to speak was opened, which was used by almost all of the participants, reaffirming the complaints about the destruction of wages, the attacks by the employers and the complicit conduct of officials of the Ministry of Labor. Finally, the Appeal was approved unanimously, for its wide national and international dissemination; Similarly, the XI National Assembly reaffirmed the incorporation of the FNLCT into the APR, committing all its members to work intensely to conquer December 6, through the PCV card, deputies at the service of the class struggles worker and working people, but from a perspective beyond the electoral situation, for wages, for employment with rights, against bourgeois liberalism, raising a program of struggle for a revolutionary solution to the crisis. At the conclusion of the Assembly, a quick check was made regarding the preparations for the Labor Protest Day that, at the initiative of the FNLCT and the APR, will be held tomorrow, November 5, before the Labor Inspectorates, denouncing the anti-worker labor policy of the National Government.
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They're coming up to elections, of course they're all campaigning.
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Has squalid ever come back to this thread since the coup got voted out.
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