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Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
imagining a parent saying "now come along, Wenceslas" in the supermarket. poor kid

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Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
I was listening to the Ukmt podcast today and they said there's someone in the Lords called Merlin ffs.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Camrath posted:

See the name I ended up with is the name of a king, and having a certain song about said king sung at me throughout my entire childhood only ended up making me hate what I ended up as.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GisCRxREDkY

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Angepain posted:

imagining a parent saying "now come along, Wenceslas" in the supermarket. poor kid

I see you, too, have shopped in the Morningside Waitrose in Edinburgh :laugh:

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
I went out with a Chinese girl at university. Her and her friends were Christians and were massively liberated by being able to go to church publicly. She's did a Chinese politics course with me and I remember how shocked she was to learn about Tienanmen.

Anyway they went home for Chinese New year during our third year of uni and they never came back and no one ever heard from them again.

I'd broken up with her before then and sort of fallen out of touch with all of them, so it took me a while to realise what had happened but ever since then when anyone brings up China and social credit scores I get a kind of creeping horror wondering what happened to them.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron



Thanks, I hate it.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Also based on his posting I 100% think that Jose is a cop.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


a pipe smoking dog posted:

Also based on his posting I 100% think that Jose is a cop.

drat it does make perfect sense

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

crispix posted:

More of a Harthacnut imo

What sound does it make clapping?

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

That's an out-take from Spinal Tap

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.
Going back to how dumb credit scores are for a sec


I got caught in the payday loan trap back in Uni because i was a dumbass who didnt want to admit i was bad with money

Even though i borrowed a shitload, my credit score went up because i only ever had 1 late payment.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

I wish you could hear my mind being blown right now.
There's a Reeves and Mortimer sketch where Matt Lucas sings that, and I never thought that actually was a reference.
Love R&M, watched it a kerbillion times, but never saw or heard that song before, thankfully.

R&M sketch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeARXMHW4Is

happyhippy fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Nov 22, 2020

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Also based on his posting I 100% think that Jose is a cop.

i've met a few UK goons who can confirm i am not

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

you'd need a seance though because they're all under a patio somewhere

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Also based on his posting I 100% think that Jose is a cop.

top 10 anime betrayals

Angepain posted:

imagining a parent saying "now come along, Wenceslas" in the supermarket. poor kid

A guy I was friends with in undergrad had a baby nephew called Ebenezer, the poor bastard. Good luck to him.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Once in the Arndale food hall I heard a woman say to her toddler son "come on Tarquin, eat your hoisin duck" and I often wonder about how hosed up that kid will be.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

happyhippy posted:

I wish you could hear my mind being blown right now.
There's a Reeves and Mortimer sketch where Matt Lucas sings that, and I never thought that actually was a reference.
Love R&M, watched it a kerbillion times, but never saw or heard that song before, thankfully.

R&M sketch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeARXMHW4Is

It's an old music hall tune from before the war that was massively popular with skiffle bands because the chords and lyrics for it were in a Teach Yourself Guitar book (not Play In A Day, but I can't remember which one), so you find covers of it by loads of British Invasion bands, who all started off doing skiffle.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
So is this Brexit thing happening or not? I recall it was suppose to happen two months ago?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ThomasPaine posted:

A guy I was friends with in undergrad had a baby nephew called Ebenezer, the poor bastard. Good luck to him.
Speaking of annoying songs, you all know what song is loving stuck in my head now.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

Speaking of annoying songs, you all know what song is loving stuck in my head now.

I'm visible for about 3 frames in the background of that video, lol.

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

ThomasPaine posted:

Honestly I'm more concerned about the precedent being set, if we get to the point where the West can declare a country to be committing genocide and that then be accepted as a truism to the point that even questioning the evidence is seen as implicitly supporting it. It's a really toxic culture, whether or not the initial accusation does turn out to be true in the final analysis.

the counterpoint to this is that literally nothing the chinese government says about anything can be trusted at all

in this respect they are identical to the old soviet union. the soviet union was the original post-truth state

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
So, hands up who’s excited for a nice normal family Christmas? Can’t wait to give granny the ultimate gift

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

i am staying in london for christmas rather than going home to see family. they have largely taken it with equimanity and we hope to do something over summer instead

it will be weird christmassing alone but w/e. better than braving the trains for the three days that everyone travels, and quite frankly it's good to have an excuse to break the tradition.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

jaete posted:

the counterpoint to this is that literally nothing the chinese government says about anything can be trusted at all

in this respect they are identical to the old soviet union. the soviet union was the original post-truth state

I don't think 'lying to the populace' is a uniquely modern phenomenon

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

i am staying in london for christmas rather than going home to see family. they have largely taken it with equimanity and we hope to do something over summer instead

it will be weird christmassing alone but w/e. better than braving the trains for the three days that everyone travels, and quite frankly it's good to have an excuse to break the tradition.

Settign a tradition of christmas day at home is so good, we finally got it sorted a couple of years ago, just lounging around in PJs and a dressing gown eating too much and watching TV.

It's so good.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
To be honest, I'm kind of hoping for an Xmas that doesn't involve me waking up in my childhood bedroom on Boxing day with a stinking hangover and a 4 hour train journey home ahead of me.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

i am staying in london for christmas rather than going home to see family. they have largely taken it with equimanity and we hope to do something over summer instead

it will be weird christmassing alone but w/e. better than braving the trains for the three days that everyone travels, and quite frankly it's good to have an excuse to break the tradition.

Yeah, my family has decided to just do a big zoom call on Christmas Day, but then all head up to my sisters for Christmas dinner at Easter assuming poo poo's less completely hosed by then.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'm visible for about 3 frames in the background of that video, lol.

No loving way!
Do tell, you may have posted about it before but I don't recall it.

As for christmas dinner, it doesn't really affect me or my family really. Last time we were all together was 2013 for my brothers wedding.
Every year since its one or the other of us.
My work only allows 10-15% of us to actually get holidays that week, OR new years week. Can't have both.
And its not guaranteed until like a month before. So I bypass this nightmare and take my holidays at the start of December.
Still not going home, havent been back since last Dec. Mother is 70, not going to cause her death just so I can wear a paper hat and watch the Two Ronnies Special.

happyhippy fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Nov 22, 2020

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


My dad isn't talking to me after I told him I was only able to visit for Christmas if we all stayed outdoors. My sister is sending me news articles speculating what rules are gonna be lifted for Christmas week. I daren't tell my mum.

I can't in good conscience put any of my family in danger even if the risk is slight. I live in Leeds and work in a hospital, I'm surprised I haven't caught it yet myself.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.
I'm looking forward to a quiet Christmas. We usually go round to my wife's aunts house with her extended family and have a meal with about 15 or so people there.

It's going to be great not doing that and just enjoying having a relaxing Christmas

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!
I haven't yet discussed Christmas with my family and I'm kind of dreading it coming up.

On the subject of credit scores, I used to work for a bank in mortgage lending back before the 08 crash and there was an automatic computer credit scoring thing, and we could look at the customer's credit file, but we weren't actually allowed to tell them why if they failed the credit score.

This probably helped cover our asses because the thing was completely opaque and sometimes there'd be no obvious clue as to what was wrong with someone's credit, but on several occasions I'd have to listen to someone getting really irate about having a bad score because they'd never taken out any loans or credit cards. Wish I could've just told them "That's capitalism!"

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Shyrka posted:

This probably helped cover our asses because the thing was completely opaque and sometimes there'd be no obvious clue as to what was wrong with someone's credit, but on several occasions I'd have to listen to someone getting really irate about having a bad score because they'd never taken out any loans or credit cards. Wish I could've just told them "That's capitalism!"

Ah, was thinking of posting if mine was low or not.
Only loan ever had was a student loan.
No credit cards until was 33, and only ever debit ones.
Never overdrawn ever. No collateral, don't own anything other than a Steam account and computer.
I assumed I am either non-existant or near zero on the scale.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Last Christmas was the first I decided to not see my family and just do what I fancied, was decent. Walking round at Christmas is a strange atmosphere, and a wee chicken leg and a bottle of old peculiar by your local river is as good a Christmas as anyone could hope for.

ThomasPaine posted:

A guy I was friends with in undergrad had a baby nephew called Ebenezer, the poor bastard. Good luck to him.

Naughty, naughty, very

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b2T8K2D-ps

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


I don't know if it applies in this case, but doesn't the GDPR entitle people to know if an automatic decision has been made, and to ask it be reconsidered manually? I don't hold out much hope for that being enforced meaningfully, but I seem to remember something about that in data security training.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

my brother has an experian score of 999 even though the only credit agreement he's ever had is a phone contract

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

happyhippy posted:

Ah, was thinking of posting if mine was low or not.
Only loan ever had was a student loan.
No credit cards until was 33, and only ever debit ones.
Never overdrawn ever. No collateral, don't own anything other than a Steam account and computer.
I assumed I am either non-existant or near zero on the scale.

If you have a phone contract those count towards your score


If you are a registered voter, that counts towards your score.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Vigil for Virgil posted:

If you have a phone contract those count towards your score


If you are a registered voter, that counts towards your score.

Never had a contract, pay as you go. Use a 2012 phone still, total boomer in training.
Am registered voter, so thats at least something.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Vigil for Virgil posted:

If you have a phone contract those count towards your score

If you are a registered voter, that counts towards your score.
So how is this different to the social credit again?

In one case I might not be able to rent a car, because I'm not a good enough citizen, in the other I might not be able to rent a car, because I'm not a good enough citizen to rescue the payment.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Guavanaut posted:

So how is this different to the social credit again?

In one case I might not be able to rent a car, because I'm not a good enough citizen, in the other I might not be able to rent a car, because I'm not a good enough citizen to rescue the payment.

Hmm? What was the social credit argument? I missed that one.

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Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



a pipe smoking dog posted:

Also based on his posting I 100% think that Jose is a cop.

he's definitely cia backed lmao

Also like, yeah the UK government is awful and all, but the genius and horror of capitalist liberal states is that they've successfully conditioned enough of the population so thoroughly that everything is just accepted and borne with resignation. "Still upper lip" "Blitz spirit" "Don't complain" "Keep calm and carry on" and all that shite. Why bother with a massive heavy-handed authoritarian apparatus when you can just kill tens to hundreds of thousands of people and get no meaningful reaction? They don't have enough active ideology to care about throwing trans people in re-education camps or rolling back gay rights, Windrush and similar is part of the same institutional racism and anti-immigrant sentiment as ever more than a desire to larp the Malan administration. The Home Sec of the day can rub herself raw on her little pet deportation/rape camp/torture projects in peace, if it gets too much you can make them retire but you don't need to worry about your government's stability or anything.

Honestly it's far more terrifying to me. If you have an actively oppressed populace you can see the route to revolt. We have a populace so brain poisoned that none of the following was even enough to vote the government out, let alone riot in the streets or hang them from lampposts (in Minecraft);
120,000 excess deaths from austerity (No doubt many more by now but I can't find specific figures)
Windrush scandal
Grenfell fire and all subsequent things we've learned about it
Priti Patel engaging in negotiations with a foreign power behind the back of Cabinet and the PM
Expenses scandals
Everything involving dirty money around the Brexit campaign, as well as all the broken/impossible promises about Brexit*

Plus tens of thousands of deaths from a bungled covid response that is seeing plenty of people saying "Eh what can you do?" as if we can't see exactly what to do, or outright thinking it's a conspiracy and that masks are one step shy of building a chain of gulags across the Islands and Highlands, seemingly the one area in which they DO care about 'rights'.

So I have no loving idea what you do about that. Complete overhaul of the media to start with I guess, but how do you do that without gaining power in the first place?

*Not being a FPBE about it or saying we should run it again or anything, but there obviously was a lot of bullshit going on and nobody cares outside the FPBE brigade who only care because it helps their case.

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