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That mansion is kinda bad, but not on the level of some of these enormous greige monstrosities. The profusion of "decor" and some of the color coordination (In the home gym especially and the full-stone-pattern bathrooms) and the three-car tumor are really the worst parts of it. I'm not exactly the best-equipped to make judgments, but the actual architecture looks decent. Even the roofline isn't as terrible as some. I'd put it in the 4-6 range.
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Nov 20, 2020 22:14
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All that bare painted drywall is overwhelming. Big spaces can’t be done the same way as small spaces.
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Nov 20, 2020 22:16
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`Nemesis posted:Don’t forget to visit the gift shop It looks more like a memorial to the home owner's victims.
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Nov 20, 2020 22:18
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Weembles posted:It looks more like a memorial to the home owner's victims.
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Nov 20, 2020 22:22
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I wanna know how many people live in that house to require that much golf equipment. Also.. maybe hang those photos up somewhere not just shelf them all in one room? that things a horror show.
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Nov 20, 2020 22:30
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tater_salad posted:I wanna know how many people live in that house to require that much golf equipment. It's the Tacky Horror Picture Show! vvv 
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Nov 20, 2020 22:38
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Hollow Talk posted:It's the Tacky Horror Picture Show! Thanks for the new thread title
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Nov 20, 2020 22:41
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Dareon posted:That mansion is kinda bad, but not on the level of some of these enormous greige monstrosities. The profusion of "decor" and some of the color coordination (In the home gym especially and the full-stone-pattern bathrooms) and the three-car tumor are really the worst parts of it. I'm not exactly the best-equipped to make judgments, but the actual architecture looks decent. Even the roofline isn't as terrible as some. I'd put it in the 4-6 range. It has a nub, automatic 8+ on the scale
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Nov 20, 2020 22:51
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`Nemesis posted:Don’t forget to visit the gift shop This is how I store my collections in the Sims.
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tater_salad posted:I wanna know how many people live in that house to require that much golf equipment. 2 people that hate each other and vacation separately.
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Nov 20, 2020 23:32
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I still cant' get over that house.. like ther's just so much poo poo.. everywhere.. Like someone didn't tell them that you don't show your calss by stuffing flake rear end flowers everywhere they fit.
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Nov 21, 2020 03:02
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tater_salad posted:I still cant' get over that house.. like ther's just so much poo poo.. everywhere.. Like someone didn't tell them that you don't show your calss by stuffing flake rear end flowers everywhere they fit. mcmansion.txt These are display houses, not functional ones. For people who don't know what they want other than to make it look like they're finally making six figgies. Or whatever the equivalent of the neighborhood might be.
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Nov 21, 2020 03:10
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How could you skip the best part! The price history!
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Nov 21, 2020 03:52
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StormDrain posted:How could you skip the best part! The price history! lol (actual)
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StormDrain posted:How could you skip the best part! The price history! Hmm there seems to be some fuckery afoot.
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Moved to here https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3819901&pagenumber=509#post510118875 His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Nov 21, 2020 |
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Nov 21, 2020 08:28
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This is definitely stuff that would do well in the interior design thread!
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FCKGW posted:How is that a "McMansion"? It just looks like a Mansion to me. Azza Bamboo posted:It looks like five different buildings clipping with each other.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:The "McMansion Hell" blog has a series on what in particular is bad about McMansions and how they differ from regular mansions. But in brief, they tend to be badly-planned, cheaply built, and made with an eye towards maximizing the number of "features" the house has rather than trying to make it a coherent structure that people will actually enjoy living in. The reason their roof lines are so atrocious is because the plan was devised by someone who was literally just slapping down rooms in a house designer program, and then clicked the "generate roof" button and shipped it. That messy complexity is then handed off to contractors who are almost certainly going to screw up somewhere, even if they are trying their best (which they aren't always).
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Nouveau riche attempting to cargo cult the style of old money (e/ and failing at it incredibly hard) is 100% what mcmansions are
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Nov 21, 2020 19:32
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Renaissance Robot posted:Nouveau riche attempting to cargo cult the style of old money (e/ and failing at it incredibly hard) is 100% what mcmansions are I think the fact that houses are all measured by square footage and not quality of construction has alot to do with it. We don't like to say how much our houses actually cost, but we will tell you exactly how many square feet it is, and mcmansions get you big number.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Money screams, wealth screamed 200 years ago
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Splicer posted:I sometimes wonder if part of it is trying to ape the appearance of old manor houses. If a wing has been added to a mansion a hundred years after it was built it's not going to look as smooth as if it was all built at once, and there'll be a blending of styles between different parts due to tastes and building technology changing between the centuries. Trying to cargo cult that aesthetic without understanding any of the logic behind it would explain why they don't look at that roof and realise something has gone horribly wrong. It's meant to look like that! I think part of the issue is what you're talking about, cargo-culting the piecemeal look of centuries-old manors and castles, is what gilded-age robber barons kind of did. Hearts Castle isn't a mcmansion, but it is sort of a spiritual predecessor in how it's got a little bit of everything Baroque and imperial opulence in it. So now decades later Betsy Devos, a legit billionaire, has a house that looks more like something the most successful car salesmen in Omaha would own rather than something a lord might have built at the height of empire.
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The thing that gets me, though, is why spend so much money on a big house and then cheap out on the actual materials? Or just throw all your architectural styles into a blender? Like, I'm thinking those stick-on foam quoins that protrude an inch from the wall. Those would actually look halfway decent- not attractive per se, but less like an abomination unto Mammon- if they were half as thick. Hell, just flat vinyl decals would give you the look you wanted if your actual wall treatment was anywhere near appropriate. If I had a million dollars or more to spend on a new house, well first off I'd go for something Modernist or Prairie style (I have an inexplicable fondness for prairie muntins) instead of...whatever those things are, but I'd also start from a materials/facilities standpoint. Get an architect that knows the best materials for the region (because if I had house-building money I would certainly not be building in Alaska, regardless of how the land-buying would eat into the house-building), make it first and foremost comfortable to be in. And cozy, room for me and maybe three other people. Even in the Sims, if I realize my family and hobbies are getting too big for a starter home, I have trouble filling out a really big house, it just feels like they're rattling around inside a box. Also, native loving landscaping. I'm living wherever here is because I like the scenery, I don't want to just make it the same invasive bullshit everyone else is using.
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Because cheaping out on materials gets you more room. Lots of people just go in with a list of rooms and features that they want and that's what they get. Getting a coherently designed house by a decent architect would probably cost them at least 50% more, so becomes prohibitively expensive, especially when they're leveraging heavily to do so.
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Why did so many old palaces not use hallways in private rooms?quote:The concept of palace is different than most people would think. This is the cause of many of today's mansions, which attempt to emulate palaces becoming full of silly and redundant rooms (ie, Aaron spelling house has a Christmas present wrapping room...) Or are like 15 bedrooms and 30 bath when they will never have like more than 5 people ever stay in the house.
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Zopotantor posted:I've done that. I had to replace my garage door opener switch a few years ago.. I would have bought a contact switch but they didn't have any at the time at Ace Hardware. I put in a two pole toggle switch. I labeled the wall "Magic" and "More Magic" after the old server room joke. Everyone in my house knows what it means but, if I were to ever sell my house, it will make no sense. It has to be toggled twice if left in the "More Magic" position. Just once in the "Magic" position. I could make it correct, but I'm fond of it now.
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This explains really well why I find so many church conversions unsatisfying; the most common thing done is to attempt to turn the whole cavernous space into a home, when it would make a lot more sense to have a relatively small apartment built up in the chancel, vestry, and other Easterly rooms while converting the nave to a state room.
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Dareon posted:The thing that gets me, though, is why spend so much money on a big house and then cheap out on the actual materials? Or just throw all your architectural styles into a blender? Like, I'm thinking those stick-on foam quoins that protrude an inch from the wall. Those would actually look halfway decent- not attractive per se, but less like an abomination unto Mammon- if they were half as thick. Hell, just flat vinyl decals would give you the look you wanted if your actual wall treatment was anywhere near appropriate. Let dove tail your question into something else I ve noticed. The Mcmansion is also trying to ape something thats pre modern. like an estate, manor house, castle, eldritch horror etc. I ve delt with and have owned in some capacity or another pre-1950 s homes. In fact I m trying to sell a house from 1935 right now. Lets call these "vintage homes" one thing I can tell you is that people just 80 years ago lived alot different than they did today. The foot print of the homes are smaller. the bed rooms are smaller. the room lay out is at odds for what people want. For example alot of the places I ve delt with dont have a design that allow for a room to have a couch and chairs and a good focal point for a monder picture sized TV. Because they didnt exists. Also the bed rooms are small because people didnt spend alot of time in the room because why would they?. Bathrooms are small some are honestly what they Goons across the pond would call a water closet. Kitchens? thanks to cable tv and cooking shows everyone wants a loving island and kitchen facing the dinning room. Okay so someone with more money than taste basically wants a YUUUUGE box. and a list of check marks the master bed room has to be big enough to be a apartment unto itself. Man cave, Water park, Office etc. But they dont want it too look mondern so they have some poo poo glued onto their box to make it look "fancy" and after reading mcmansion hell I really hate how they dont get the roof lines correct and mix and match window etc. Side note, It takes a certain type of person to live in "vintage house" and what they like is the "charm" of it. So you have to make sure all electrical, plumbing, Hvac is addressed while not altering the house too much to destroy its charm.
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Ups_rail posted:For example alot of the places I ve delt with dont have a design that allow for a room to have a couch and chairs and a good focal point for a monder picture sized TV. Because they didnt exists. There was a vintage house plan blog linked way earlier in the thread, and I spent some time skimming it, noticing things like that. It was neat that you could look at a house plan and tell "Oh, this came after the advent of the car," "That living room is clearly designed to watch TV in," or "This was meant to be placed on a frontier lot without running water, because there's no bathroom."
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Skyl3lazer posted:Manassas, Virginia. United States. from GBS. I think this was linked in this thread previously....
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Dareon posted:There was a vintage house plan blog linked way earlier in the thread, and I spent some time skimming it, noticing things like that. It was neat that you could look at a house plan and tell "Oh, this came after the advent of the car," "That living room is clearly designed to watch TV in," or "This was meant to be placed on a frontier lot without running water, because there's no bathroom." There's a ton of stuff like this on Google books too. When I was trying to find out any history at all on my 1908 house, I stumbled across Keith's Magazine and a bunch of other old house magazines and catalogs. One of the Keith's has an article about maybe you want a garage, because cars are a thing now, is that right for you? Good poo poo.
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 Plugging power strips into power strips!INFINITE POWER!
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I’m the stripped wires top left because the plug wouldn’t fit.
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Where did you get a picture of my old place? Mine was never actually that bad, and... Is that next to a toilet? Could be a flip-top trashcan, but the shape and gap in the object on the right makes me think toilet.
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Empty Sandwich posted:from GBS. I think this was linked in this thread previously.... It was, that isn't a house I'm forgetting any time soon. It's fucky enough to be worth reposting every few months, though
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Bad Munki posted:I’m the stripped wires top left because the plug wouldn’t fit. I'm the other set on the bottom right. At our last apt there was a single outlet in the bathroom, so we had a similar situation for both toothbrushes, shaver charger, waterpik, and hair dryer. But none of those things was ever running at the same time, it was just to save having to constantly unplug poo poo. I was going to say maybe it was a bunch of low power/not always powered things and wasn't so bad but now I'm sure it's as bad as it looks.
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Bad Munki posted:I’m the stripped wires top left because the plug wouldn’t fit. These types of power adapters have a pair of screw terminals. They are for permanent installs where the wiring is run by the installer and count have any length. That's why they also have the top and bottom tab (some broken off) with screw holes, so they can be 'mounted' to an outlet in place of the faceplate. My worry is the one that's discoloured and seems to have no wiring hooked up. I'm guessing these are old transformer type adapters, and never shut off, even with no load, so that thing is a waste of money and a fire hazard.
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EoRaptor posted:These types of power adapters have a pair of screw terminals. They are for permanent installs where the wiring is run by the installer and count have any length. That's why they also have the top and bottom tab (some broken off) with screw holes, so they can be 'mounted' to an outlet in place of the faceplate. This is very typical of CCTV installs, unfortunately. The correct way to do it is to get a 12/24v power supply with 8-16 outputs, then you only have the power supply to hard wire or throw a cord on.
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