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actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

behind three doors is a eames lounge chair, but behind the other door is the deadly half shark half alligator man

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Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

actionjackson posted:

behind three doors is a eames lounge chair, but behind the other door is the deadly half shark half alligator man

:darksouls:

Preechr
May 19, 2009

Proud member of the Pony-Brony Alliance for Obama as President
It’s just a Warframe extraction point, for when a squad of four Tenno are done painting the walls with your plagued, electrified, incinerated remains.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Since people seemed to like the last post, here's a few more houses. I think I will focus on a specific type of house for this.

Front Houses
This style of house was built a lot after WW2 ended. There was a need for housing after the war. Around 11% of the countrys population had been relocated when they fled from Karelia as the Soviet Union annexed it and the nazis pretty much razed Lappland to the ground when retreating back to Norway.

To help alleviate the need for housing the government gave out favorable loans as well as commissioned several set of standardized plans for building houses. These houses came to be known as "rintamamiestalo" / "frontmannahus" (swe), translates to front houses, in reference to soldiers returning from the front lines.



Insulation in these houses was most often sawdust and shavings and wooden paneling for a facade. The original design of the structure was lifted from 1930s american homes and adapted for finnish use. Common for these houses is a 1.5 floorplan and often there is a cellar. Centrally located in the house was the chimney and there would be a fireplace at least in one room. So this meant the brick chimney would get warm with use and heat all the rooms connected to it, which was all of them. A woodstove in the kitchen was also connected to this same chimney. The warm chimney structure also contributes to a self-circulation of air in the structure and works to keep mold away.

Originally most front houses had a toilet, but not a shower or bathroom. It was more common then to have a separate structure for washing up and doing laundry in, this also housed the sauna. This was the layout in my granddads house, though later on they retrofitted a shower and proper bathroom sometime in the 80s.

First house, pretty typical, though modernized on the inside, outside looks like it could use some new paint:

https://www.etuovi.com/kohde/1288240

Here's a house with a different type of panelling, I am not sure if these contain asbestos or not but it's a mineral based type of sheeting, quite common here, I think it looks terrible:

https://www.etuovi.com/kohde/692597

I selected this house because it has an original woodstove in the kitchen and a pönttöuuni as well (white). This house looks to have not gone through that many retrofits. Also not a very large house.

https://www.etuovi.com/kohde/20224165

This house is nothing fancy on the outside, inside seems to be all new however. Very modern scandinavian to me. The facade on this house is plaster.

https://www.etuovi.com/kohde/680527

EDIT: Oh and yes, most houses do have saunas here. And public places like pools also have them.

His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Nov 23, 2020

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle





I love the cheap plywood fence they put around the kitchen pit to keep people from falling in.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


His Divine Shadow posted:

Since people seemed to like the last post, here's a few more houses. I think I will focus on a specific type of house for this.

Front Houses


I have to admit that I have a thing for front [line soldier] houses - as does most of Finland, I think. We're going house hunting next year and our dream is the usual: a front house in good shape, with functional plumbing, and wasn't ruined by renovations in the 1970s or 1980s when 'insulating' the walls and floors with plastic and asbestos-lined linoleum was The Smart And Modern Thing To Do, leading to mold and horribly expensive and dangerous asbestos removal operations if you want to get anything done yourself. It would also be nice if some idiot hadn't already ripped out all the original furnishings and painted every surface with greige, but that's at least something that can be fixed with elbow grease and a can of paint or two. I have seen a couple of quality candidates on the market nearby with not-too-extraorbitant prices, here's hoping we'll be lucky!

Watch this space next year when I start to rant about the idiot choices PO made with everything from roofing to plumbing and how we are now neck deep in debt with a moldy house full of asbestos. The Finnish dream :allears:

e: fixed my english a bit

barbecue at the folks fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Nov 23, 2020

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

barbecue at the folks posted:

'insulating' the walls and floors with plastic [...] was The Smart And Modern Thing To Do, leading to mold

You should see what the previous owner did to my basement here in the states.

kid sinister
Nov 16, 2002
Don't choose form over function, kids.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvwi1dx9kJ4

In reference to those Finnish homes - how do they do this ceiling? God drat I love that. I wish I had a cozy as hell Finnish home

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Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


actionjackson posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvwi1dx9kJ4

In reference to those Finnish homes - how do they do this ceiling? God drat I love that. I wish I had a cozy as hell Finnish home



Looks like basic painted V-groove paneling?

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
the joke about making the entire plane out of black box cladding except what if you made an entire house out of a man cave

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2020-Butler-Bridge-Rd-Covington-GA-30016/69886403_zpid/

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

Looks like basic painted V-groove paneling?

ah okay, I saw that same thing in some DWR staged images and always thought it looked cool. I wish it was common here.

Doll House Ghost
Jun 18, 2011



barbecue at the folks posted:

I have to admit that I have a thing for front [line soldier] houses - as does most of Finland, I think. We're going house hunting next year and our dream is the usual: a front house in good shape, with functional plumbing, and wasn't ruined by renovations in the 1970s or 1980s when 'insulating' the walls and floors with plastic and asbestos-lined linoleum was The Smart And Modern Thing To Do, leading to mold and horribly expensive and dangerous asbestos removal operations if you want to get anything done yourself. It would also be nice if some idiot hadn't already ripped out all the original furnishings and painted every surface with greige, but that's at least something that can be fixed with elbow grease and a can of paint or two. I have seen a couple of quality candidates on the market nearby with not-too-extraorbitant prices, here's hoping we'll be lucky!

Watch this space next year when I start to rant about the idiot choices PO made with everything from roofing to plumbing and how we are now neck deep in debt with a moldy house full of asbestos. The Finnish dream :allears:

e: fixed my english a bit

We went to front house showing some months ago and the sauna was built into an L shaped corridor in the basement, with doors in each end. To reach the furnace you had to walk through the sauna. I'm also 160cm and had to bow my head while in the sauna part. It was... interesting. No plastic though!

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

actionjackson posted:

ah okay, I saw that same thing in some DWR staged images and always thought it looked cool. I wish it was common here.

You can retro-fit it anywhere for very little money. Sure as poo poo seems cheaper than paying a plasterer.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

wooger posted:

You can retro-fit it anywhere for very little money. Sure as poo poo seems cheaper than paying a plasterer.

You know I looked into that once, but what if I have a popcorn ceiling? Don't you need to build a new support structure to hold the extra weight?

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

luxury handset posted:

the joke about making the entire plane out of black box cladding except what if you made an entire house out of a man cave

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2020-Butler-Bridge-Rd-Covington-GA-30016/69886403_zpid/



HDR is over 9000!!!!!

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

His Divine Shadow posted:

Since people seemed to like the last post, here's a few more houses. I think I will focus on a specific type of house for this.

Front Houses
This style of house was built a lot after WW2 ended. There was a need for housing after the war. Around 11% of the countrys population had been relocated when they fled from Karelia as the Soviet Union annexed it and the nazis pretty much razed Lappland to the ground when retreating back to Norway.

To help alleviate the need for housing the government gave out favorable loans as well as commissioned several set of standardized plans for building houses. These houses came to be known as "rintamamiestalo" / "frontmannahus" (swe), translates to front houses, in reference to soldiers returning from the front lines.



Insulation in these houses was most often sawdust and shavings and wooden paneling for a facade. The original design of the structure was lifted from 1930s american homes and adapted for finnish use. Common for these houses is a 1.5 floorplan and often there is a cellar. Centrally located in the house was the chimney and there would be a fireplace at least in one room. So this meant the brick chimney would get warm with use and heat all the rooms connected to it, which was all of them. A woodstove in the kitchen was also connected to this same chimney. The warm chimney structure also contributes to a self-circulation of air in the structure and works to keep mold away.

Originally most front houses had a toilet, but not a shower or bathroom. It was more common then to have a separate structure for washing up and doing laundry in, this also housed the sauna. This was the layout in my granddads house, though later on they retrofitted a shower and proper bathroom sometime in the 80s.

First house, pretty typical, though modernized on the inside, outside looks like it could use some new paint:

https://www.etuovi.com/kohde/1288240

Here's a house with a different type of panelling, I am not sure if these contain asbestos or not but it's a mineral based type of sheeting, quite common here, I think it looks terrible:

https://www.etuovi.com/kohde/692597

I selected this house because it has an original woodstove in the kitchen and a pönttöuuni as well (white). This house looks to have not gone through that many retrofits. Also not a very large house.

https://www.etuovi.com/kohde/20224165

This house is nothing fancy on the outside, inside seems to be all new however. Very modern scandinavian to me. The facade on this house is plaster.

https://www.etuovi.com/kohde/680527

EDIT: Oh and yes, most houses do have saunas here. And public places like pools also have them.

So I liked house #1, though the laundry area is oddly bare, it could use a table for folding and a bar for hanging clothes. I also liked the large, full room bathroom in #4, that was a nice touch. With house #2, what's with the shared outbuilding in the back? All purpose shed? Office / getaway area? It's cool to see these things.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




The Bloop posted:

HDR is over 9000!!!!!

It really brings out the colour in the ceiling stains. So many ceiling stains.

kid sinister
Nov 16, 2002

actionjackson posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvwi1dx9kJ4

In reference to those Finnish homes - how do they do this ceiling? God drat I love that. I wish I had a cozy as hell Finnish home



You mean shiplap? It's one style of tongue and groove planking.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

kid sinister posted:

You mean shiplap? It's one style of tongue and groove planking.

That's not shiplap, but it is basic tongue and groove. Two grooves close together would be "fancier" beadboard.

Shiplap is NOT tongue and groove, it is rabbet joined.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Is the white part at the top of the wall a support for it?

Also my ceiling isn't completely the same height, on some of the sides it drops down a foot, so I'd imagine that'd be quite difficult. It looks like it drops down to contain the ductwork.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

actionjackson posted:

Is the white part at the top of the wall a support for it?

Also my ceiling isn't completely the same height, on some of the sides it drops down a foot, so I'd imagine that'd be quite difficult. It looks like it drops down to contain the ductwork.
The crown? If it's well secured I guess it would add some support, but it was probably installed for aesthetics more than function. Apologies if you're referring to something else.

Having applied beadboard to a ceiling with a ductwork-related soffit myself, it looks perfectly fine, and doesn't change the aesthetics of the beadboard much.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


actionjackson posted:

Is the white part at the top of the wall a support for it?

Also my ceiling isn't completely the same height, on some of the sides it drops down a foot, so I'd imagine that'd be quite difficult. It looks like it drops down to contain the ductwork.

That is called molding (or moulding). It is decorative and is there to hide any sloppiness in the fit between paneling and wall, and it is aesthetically pleasing and eases the transition between wall and ceiling. It visually 'supports' the ceiling, as you noted-it makes it look more natural and supported. The paneling is nailed to the ceiling joists.

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

The Zillow search term of the day is "AIA" (American Institute of Architects)

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/150-Union-Jack-Mall-Marina-Del-Rey-CA-90292/20487915_zpid/ by Marshall Lewis (2002)
oh god they're multiplying


https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/14-Brahma-Ln-Santa-Fe-NM-87506/2084306766_zpid/ "The Shadow House" by Antoine Predock (2003)



https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1212-Casiano-Rd-Los-Angeles-CA-90049/20528590_zpid/ by Tracy Price (1964)



https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1830-N-Potter-Pl-Tucson-AZ-85719/8497926_zpid/ by John H. Beck (1962)


https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2805-Down-Cv-Austin-TX-78704/29473719_zpid/ "Branch House" by Baldridge Architects (2016)


https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1052-Noyac-Path-Bridgehampton-NY-11976/32724272_zpid/ by 1100 Architect (2002)


https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9820-E-Thompson-Peak-Pkwy-UNIT-707-Scottsdale-AZ-85255/8065577_zpid/ architect not specified (2004)



https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2117-Bonair-Dr-SW-Seattle-WA-98116/84756549_zpid/ by Eric Cobb Architects (2008)


https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/492-N-Bundy-Dr-Los-Angeles-CA-90049/20536517_zpid/ by Robert Kerr (2020)
how are you supposed to get to the ledge thing? the railing is blocking it from access by the stairs


https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/588-Tamarac-Dr-Pasadena-CA-91105/20769352_zpid/ by Jean G. Killion (1954)



https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/21423-Colina-Dr-Topanga-CA-90290/20550922_zpid/ "The Hendrix House" by Harry Gesner (1968)

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

thanks for the replies in regards to beadboard. Is that something that can be applied on top of popcorn ceiling texture? That was one alternative I had considered to getting it removed and then smoothed.

I'm very familiar with mouldings, I just recall watching some youtube video from a person who installed this stuff that sometimes you also need something there for support if the ceiling cannot support the additional weight added by placing the beadboard directly over the ceiling.

actionjackson fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Nov 24, 2020

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

So I liked house #1, though the laundry area is oddly bare, it could use a table for folding and a bar for hanging clothes. I also liked the large, full room bathroom in #4, that was a nice touch. With house #2, what's with the shared outbuilding in the back? All purpose shed? Office / getaway area? It's cool to see these things.

I think the laundry area was the shower, they probably only keep the machines in there then sort and fold the laundry elsewhere. Seeing a washing machine and dryer is quite unusual in my experience btw.

As for #2 I guess it might have been a dedicated sauna / washing room or something in the past, who knows now.

When I grew up we had the washing machine and shower in the boiler building for the greenhouses (parents where greenhouse farmers) behind our house. Even though our house (1977 built) was modern enough to be built with a proper bathroom we hardly ever used it. Norm was to walk the 30-40 meters to the boiler room and do your cleaning up there. It was quite an odd bathroom, bare concrete, bare unpainted dry wall and oily machinery and lots of pipes, looked like an engine room. Then in the corner there was an improvised shower corner with some clinkers and stuff and a plastic separator dad made from plastic sheeting and stainless square-tubing. The upside of this place was it was always 30 degrees C or so in there so we bothered with the trip even in winter time because it was so warm and nice to shower in.

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

actionjackson posted:

thanks for the replies in regards to beadboard. Is that something that can be applied on top of popcorn ceiling texture? That was one alternative I had considered to getting it removed and then smoothed.

I'm very familiar with mouldings, I just recall watching some youtube video from a person who installed this stuff that sometimes you also need something there for support if the ceiling cannot support the additional weight added by placing the beadboard directly over the ceiling.

If the ceiling can't support the additional weight added by beadboard, the ceiling is going to fall down on its own because you looked at it angrily. It weighs less than 1lb/sqft, and you attach it directly to the joists, not to the drywall.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Booley posted:

If the ceiling can't support the additional weight added by beadboard, the ceiling is going to fall down on its own because you looked at it angrily. It weighs less than 1lb/sqft, and you attach it directly to the joists, not to the drywall.

okay, maybe I misunderstood the video. I'd imagine both having beadboard installed vs. removing the popcorn ceiling and painting are both going to be several thousand dollars minimum.


god drat that's a good looking house. Honestly the price seems low given the area and the design. The panton chairs seem to be multiplying, though they are surprisingly affordable

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-Vitra-Panton-Chair-Design-Within-Reach/254783432677?hash=item3b5246a7e5:g:euIAAOSwzcdftt6~

actionjackson fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Nov 24, 2020

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

actionjackson posted:

thanks for the replies in regards to beadboard. Is that something that can be applied on top of popcorn ceiling texture? That was one alternative I had considered to getting it removed and then smoothed.

I'm very familiar with mouldings, I just recall watching some youtube video from a person who installed this stuff that sometimes you also need something there for support if the ceiling cannot support the additional weight added by placing the beadboard directly over the ceiling.
It can be applied on top of popcorn, but I'll warn that if it's particularly 'large' popcorn, it can be hard to get seams to line up well. I worked around this by putting trim over all the seams (I used 4x8 panels, not individual strips of bead board), resulting in a ceiling that looks like the one here - https://growingupkemper.com/2019/10/24/nautical-farmhouse-beadboard-ceiling/ which isn't quite as clean a look as the one posted up thread.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

my popcorn is very small and not that noticeable, so I'm guessing it would work fine then, though if it's not that noticeable I should probably not be spending thousands of dollars to cover it up!

Idlewild_
Sep 12, 2004

actionjackson posted:

my popcorn is very small and not that noticeable, so I'm guessing it would work fine then, though if it's not that noticeable I should probably not be spending thousands of dollars to cover it up!

If it's within your budget, I say do it. It's a pretty big change to a living space. I'm still so happy with my bedroom ceiling which went from truly awful drop ceiling tiles to the absolute smoothest plaster job. Now, granted the drop ceiling needed replacing, but every time I look at that ceiling I enjoy just how very nice it looks.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Idlewild_ posted:

If it's within your budget, I say do it. It's a pretty big change to a living space. I'm still so happy with my bedroom ceiling which went from truly awful drop ceiling tiles to the absolute smoothest plaster job. Now, granted the drop ceiling needed replacing, but every time I look at that ceiling I enjoy just how very nice it looks.

did you pay someone to do it, and if so how big was the ceiling and how much did it cost?

I've most commonly seen estimates of 2-2.50/SF for the total process of removal, "cleaning up" the surface, and painting. Right now though I've found that contractors only want to do large jobs (i.e. big houses) because they are so busy. Doing like 800 SF isn't exactly a high priority :p

actionjackson fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Nov 24, 2020

Scarodactyl
Oct 22, 2015


Wtf I had a dream about this room but I don't remember seeing this picture before :tinfoil:

gvibes
Jan 18, 2010

Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

amethystbliss posted:

Love this so much, even if I can't comprehend a 2 bed, 2 bath with 3,000 square ft.
Yeah, just gorgeous.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Scarodactyl posted:

Wtf I had a dream about this room but I don't remember seeing this picture before :tinfoil:

Oh that's normal. Everybody has that

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

The Zillow search term of the day is "atelier". Atelier is a fancy word for an artist's workshop or studio. "Atelier-style windows" is a fancy word for a wall full of windows.

alas, I doubt any actual artist is going to be able to afford any of these

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1-W-67th-St-APT-401-402-New-York-NY-10023/2077462392_zpid/



https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/561-Union-St-Brooklyn-NY-11215/2103977781_zpid/




https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3413-Moore-St-Los-Angeles-CA-90066/20453968_zpid/



https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/313-W-4th-St-New-York-NY-10014/31500551_zpid/



https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/821-Milwood-Ave-Venice-CA-90291/20451856_zpid/




https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/161-Duane-St-UNIT-67-New-York-NY-10013/2078687783_zpid/




https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/819-Milwood-Ave-Venice-CA-90291/20451855_zpid/ ok these are all expensive as gently caress but how the hell is this one worth $10 million?




https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/11-E-68th-St-PENTHOUSE-W-New-York-NY-10065/2077162095_zpid/ this is a supervillain lair


nice camel toe


TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS





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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

My parents had a cheap table from I'm guessing the late 1970s with this exact varnished woodgrain pattern so seeing it in a Manhattan penthouse makes me giggle a whole lot.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Gonna smash some henchmen in there

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Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



What? A ladder? This towel rack? Oh, no no no, definitely not.

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