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Groovelord Neato posted:Will always blow my mind Spielberg adapted the first. Spielberg apparently liked the setting and wanted to get away from the Oscar porn and back to his pulpy roots. The amazing thing is that he managed to make a tolerable movie out of it; it's not good but it knows what fun is, which is more than you can say about the source novel.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Will always blow my mind Spielberg adapted the first. Well the whole point of the book was 80s nostalgia porn and there are very few directors who would be more appropriate for that.
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Nov 24, 2020 20:25
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there wolf posted:Spielberg apparently liked the setting and wanted to get away from the Oscar porn and back to his pulpy roots. The amazing thing is that he managed to make a tolerable movie out of it; it's not good but it knows what fun is, which is more than you can say about the source novel. One of the advantages of a visual medium is that you can have all the random background 80s poo poo and people can just ignore it.
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Nov 24, 2020 20:32
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It was funny how he was like "yeah, I'll do it but I'm cutting out all the references to my stuff."
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Nov 24, 2020 20:47
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muscles like this! posted:It was funny how he was like "yeah, I'll do it but I'm cutting out all the references to my stuff." Spielberg has been burned hard by the combination of video games and his movies before...
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there wolf posted:Hey now, he's had VR sex in all kind of bodies (as long as the sex was with women) far be it from me to defend ernest “masturbation poet” cline but at least read the sections you’re criticizing
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food court bailiff posted:far be it from me to defend ernest “masturbation poet” cline but at least read the sections you’re criticizing Counterpoint: The critisicm is far more entertaining than the book, and as an observer, I am happy to see it continue.
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Nov 24, 2020 23:17
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there wolf posted:Hey now, he's had VR sex in all kind of bodies (as long as the sex was with women) which has completely transcended the concept of gender to him, which is why he needs to tell us that the object of his stalking is a trans woman and explain how cool he is with that. https://twitter.com/jacobmercy/status/1331362069430431744?s=19
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food court bailiff posted:far be it from me to defend ernest “masturbation poet” cline but at least read the sections you’re criticizing You're right. I think I missread the "sex with men as both woman and a man" thing last night.
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Nov 24, 2020 23:56
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Honestly these excerpts are amazing because they're indistinguishable from the first book except now Wade is consciously drinking the Respecting Women and Minorities Juice instead of just passively imbibing it because his friend is a secret lesbian.
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Nov 25, 2020 00:24
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Djeser posted:Honestly these excerpts are amazing because they're indistinguishable from the first book except now Wade is consciously drinking the Respecting Women and Minorities Juice instead of just passively imbibing it because his friend is a secret lesbian. He's definitely got that "I am consciously being a Good Ally despite the fact that the only specific woman I have ever respected is the one I thought was a dude, and this isn't going to change" vibe going
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Nov 25, 2020 00:28
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there wolf posted:Spielberg apparently liked the setting and wanted to get away from the Oscar porn and back to his pulpy roots. The amazing thing is that he managed to make a tolerable movie out of it; it's not good but it knows what fun is, which is more than you can say about the source novel. they fixed the puzzles and solutions in the original book to be much more comprehensible in the movie, although the ending of "hey, you're given the key to completely dismantle / repair this terrible online universe that makes things worse for everyone in the real world (the EARL), do something good with it! oh i guess you'll just be a silent shareholder and let the suits still control it and nothing is better except you get a girlfriend" is retained lol
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Nov 25, 2020 03:09
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Everyone gets trapped in the matrix and there's an easter egg hunt to escape. Also there's some creepy stuff about the ex-girlfriend of one of the creators of the matrix. Is that really the plot? Because if so he just stole that from the Japanese series Sword Art Online which is about a bunch of people stuck in a VR game that they have to "beat" in order to escape. Edit: I know the idea isn't incredibly original but SAO is pretty popular in Japan and America with multiple animes and videogames. muscles like this! has a new favorite as of 03:20 on Nov 25, 2020 |
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Nov 25, 2020 03:16
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muscles like this! posted:Is that really the plot? Because if so he just stole that from the Japanese series Sword Art Online which is about a bunch of people stuck in a VR game that they have to "beat" in order to escape. Nah, Cline's borrowing a lot more from Tron than more current versions of that particular cyberpunk premise.
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Nov 25, 2020 03:31
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muscles like this! posted:Is that really the plot? Because if so he just stole that from the Japanese series Sword Art Online which is about a bunch of people stuck in a VR game that they have to "beat" in order to escape. according to that twitter thread the (paraphrased) line "this is just like my animes, sword art online!" appears several times in the book
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The Saddest Rhino posted:according to that twitter thread the (paraphrased) line "this is just like my animes, sword art online!" appears several times in the book There's a part where the main character lists out a bunch of famous media with the number 7 in it, and in parentheses he helpfully puts in the date of release.
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Nov 25, 2020 03:36
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I hate even knowing a book like this exists
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Nov 25, 2020 04:21
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The Saddest Rhino posted:and nothing is better except you get a girlfriend" is retained lol Didn't the movie add the bit where he shuts down Oasis once a week to try to inspire people to take more care of their real world communities? But yeah, it's not a surprise that Spielberg took a bad book and made it at least palatable; just look at Jurassic Park. That book was anemic from beginning to end.
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Nov 25, 2020 04:57
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I haven't seen the movie, but the shutting-down-OASIS thing is definitely not in the book. The book ends with the dead mentor being all like "don't forget to live in the real world, like I did!" out of nowhere but nothing actually happens.
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Nov 25, 2020 05:04
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Inspector Gesicht posted:You're pretty good at threads that examine both the text and paratext of works that are good, bad, or written by William Control. Because it is my curse, I will do it after I finish Midnight Sun. They have a John Hughes planet and a Prince planet. Both get multiple chapters.
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Nov 25, 2020 07:03
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The Gen X nostalgia bomb is pretty potent even on people who should know better including book critics, but that at least seems to be a one-time high judging how they went on to savage Armada and the sequel.
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The book will probably sell milions to the people who cry about female ghostbusters ruining their childhood but there are some loving savage reviewsquote:That’s the overwhelming issue with the Ready Player Whatever universe: at no point does Cline question the wisdom of an all-encompassing monoculture that screeches to a halt around 1988, while technology evolves at hyperspeed around it. “Ah, the good old days,” he sighs, and writes another chapter about loving Donkey Kong or whatever. He’s the Gamemaster Anthony of genre fiction, a clunky stylist content to wallop the reader over the head with a never-ending barrage of “Remember when?”s. quote:Some Ernest Cline fans have jumped into conspiracies, choosing to believe that the long-awaited book was actually ghost written by a Reddit community. quote:These interludes also have Parzival getting schooled by Art3mis and Aech for the gaps in his knowledge, for following Halliday’s broad-yet-narrow tastes and inheriting the man’s blind spots for pop culture that might have been more significant for women and people of color. It’s a different kind of self-awareness than existed in Ready Player One, but it feels more performative than anything else because it still comes from the perspective of a white man.
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It's funny that the widely panned film Gamer did the premise a lot better. It'd also be funny to check the reviewers who insanely reviewed the first book well and see their takes on this one.
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Gamer introduced me to pistachio butter (it's really good)
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I always wonder how it feels to put out a book or film or show that just doesn't catch people, only to watch some other version take the world by storm. Like there are tons of magic school kids books, but one Harry Potter, tons of vampire stuff but only one Twilight, and obviously trillions of erotic tales of every persuasion but 50 Shades of Grey stands out... Is it disheartening? Is it nice to know someone makes it?
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Brawnfire posted:I always wonder how it feels to put out a book or film or show that just doesn't catch people, only to watch some other version take the world by storm. Like there are tons of magic school kids books, but one Harry Potter, tons of vampire stuff but only one Twilight, and obviously trillions of erotic tales of every persuasion but 50 Shades of Grey stands out... Is it disheartening? Is it nice to know someone makes it? If I wrote and published the Good Version of RP1 (the one that treats the dystopia properly and understands how broken everything is) and it sold nothing and then saw Cline's book get rave reviews, sell like gangbusters, and get adapted by Spielberg of all people I'd run into traffic.
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Nov 25, 2020 18:24
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So remember the adage that bad books make good movies.
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Nov 25, 2020 18:49
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I read RP1 and it was barely digestible if only for the "lol are you loving kidding me" parts but all the posted pages are literally difficult to read in the AI text generated sense; it hurts my eyes trying to read each line and parse the details.
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Nov 25, 2020 18:52
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Inspector Gesicht posted:So remember the adage that bad books make good movies. Seriouspost: No, did you just make it up?
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Seriouspost: No, did you just make it up? The Godfather is a pretty bad book.
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Robert mckean said it.
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Groovelord Neato posted:The Godfather is a pretty bad book. Are you saying it's a good movie?
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Seriouspost: No, did you just make it up? Jaws is pretty dire, too. I'd say there's some merit to the idea.
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Nov 25, 2020 19:23
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The movie The Prestige is based on a book and while the book isn't exactly terrible it does have some stupid stuff that the movie wisely cuts. Like a modern day plot involving the descendants of Angier and Borden discovering that Angier's machine malfunctioned and now he's a spooky ghost.
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muscles like this! posted:The movie The Prestige is based on a book and while the book isn't exactly terrible it does have some stupid stuff that the movie wisely cuts. Like a modern day plot involving the descendants of Angier and Borden discovering that Angier's machine malfunctioned and now he's a spooky ghost. Dunno that sounds cool. (I watched The Prestige and The Other Prestige With Paul Giamatti And That Soulless Actor Who Can't Act No I Don't Mean Ben Affleck As The Protagonist What's His Name Anyway back-to-back and I keep getting parts of them confused. This is the one with the teleport, right?)
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Inspector Gesicht posted:So remember the adage that bad books make good movies. Stephen King's work in a nutshell.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Jaws is pretty dire, too. I'd say there's some merit to the idea. Starship Troopers is the mathematical proof for this.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Are you saying it's a good movie? Yes...it's The Godfather. https://twitter.com/caylenb/status/1331675166221291521?s=20 Groovelord Neato has a new favorite as of 20:25 on Nov 25, 2020 |
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Dunno that sounds cool. (I watched The Prestige and The Other Prestige With Paul Giamatti And That Soulless Actor Who Can't Act No I Don't Mean Ben Affleck As The Protagonist What's His Name Anyway back-to-back and I keep getting parts of them confused. This is the one with the teleport, right?) The Prestige the book is good; The Prestige the movie fillets a good half of it out and is loving amazing. You're thinking of The Illusionist with Edward Norton and my god that thing suuuuucked. lovely Harlequin novel plot where evereyone was loathsome and/or deeply, deeply boring.
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Gats Akimbo posted:The Prestige the book is good; The Prestige the movie fillets a good half of it out and is loving amazing. That was a confusing year. I remember people kept asking me if I'd seen one or the other magician movie and I'd be like "Yeah. No wait. No?"
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