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McGavin posted:I don't think it's that farfetched. After all, everyone outside of C-SPAM is on the State Department payroll. The shift from CIA to State Department as the preferred bogeyman is weird.
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Porfiriato posted:A bunch of Canadian tankies/useful idiots held a mass Zoom meeting to agitate for Meng Wanzhou's release and somehow got a Green and an NDP MP to show up. This poor bastard has been sacrificing his brain cells to live-tweet about it on Twitter: (link goes to the start of his Twitter thread) McGavin posted:I don't think it's that farfetched. After all, everyone outside of C-SPAM is on the State Department payroll.
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Blistex posted:I often wonder what kind of a budget the CIA would need to even attempt half the poo poo nutjobs and useful idiots blame on them. Hell, their agent roster/people on payrol would have to be in the tens of millions for China/HK/Taiwan shenanigans alone. When I got my trump bux, even after not paying a cent in US taxes for the past 9 years, I finally knew what it was for
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Remember when Glen beck did his chalk board about bengazi and mention SA due to its relation to vile rat? We got called a Spook front then, and I still chuckle at the one poster going "wait I thought the CIA was a front for SA?"
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what happens when the america pissess off china are they just gonna burn down a tim hortons now? oohhboy posted:Jesus H Christ. Dad thinks t**** is good. Thinks Antifa (Ignoring why and their function) setting fire to some stuff and BLM more damaging to the US than last 4 years of t****. Yet thinks the HK protest is good(including setting fires) as they fight a system that has completely lost the trust of the people by trashing elections. Thinks Democrats "Stole the election" with zero evidence and every court having thrown out every case with some judges giving the legal version of "gently caress off". Doesn't understand t**** and republicans are doing their utmost to undermine the election thus democracy which is super bad. Can't trust mainstream media because they aren't "Centralist or fair". I could go on, like holy gently caress poo poo. might i interest you in the things boomers hate thread friend? also assuming your dad is american he likes hk protests because he has the trump brain worms and china bad. snergle fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Nov 25, 2020 |
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Grand Fromage posted:There are so many dumb internet things but the one about pretending anyone who disagrees with you is literally a secret CIA spy is perhaps the dumbest. I think you are wrong, and so does my boss J. Edgar.
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Ups_rail posted:Remember when Glen beck did his chalk board about bengazi and mention SA due to its relation to vile rat? Lmao I really want to see this
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snergle posted:might i interest you in the things boomers hate thread friend? also assuming your dad is american he likes hk protests because he has the trump brain worms and china bad. hehehe. One of your assumptions is not quite right. Don't sweat it. The level of cognitive dissonance makes my head hurt just from being reminded of this trash. Ignoring elements like him being a grifter or thinking HK could harness the stupidity/racism is whatever, far bigger fish you can fry, going the whole 9 yards is batshit especially given his circumstances.
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Barudak posted:It sounds "smarter" and is even vaguer and encompasses a lot more mundane boring jobs so higher odds baby! Is this why CSPAM loves to call Brown Moses a CIA spook? Its weird when it shows up in regular threads. Actually NVM, its weird anytime it happens.
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Patrocclesiastes posted:Is this why CSPAM loves to call Brown Moses a CIA spook? Its weird when it shows up in regular threads. His outfit, bellingcat, is believed by tankies to be a CIA front because it accepted some endowment from the US government and said bad things about Assad. Yeah, I think that's p much the long and short of it.
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So I read this article. Apparently China is reforming their SOEs to be more of a mix of privatization and state control? Is China moving away from State Capitalism?
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I read this article. Apparently China is reforming their SOEs to be more of a mix of privatization and state control? Is China moving away from State Capitalism? China Daily is state propaganda and the Chinese government says "we're definitely gonna start reforming the economy soon. Real soon. We promise. Any day now" basically every few months for the past decade and counting even as it stagnates more and more with each passing year For some reason the Chinese government keeps on balking at reforms like "government officials and the failsons that run the State Owned Enterprises should steal less money" Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Nov 25, 2020 |
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barbecue at the folks posted:Serious question: is there something to Chinese martial arts as they are now or is it all just this: in short, yes there are the real deal never shows off while the fake ones keeps posting and get themselves wrecked
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Mr. Fix It posted:His outfit, bellingcat, is believed by tankies to be a CIA front because it accepted some endowment from the US government and said bad things about Assad. Yeah, I think that's p much the long and short of it. The National Endowment for Democracy isn't CIA, but NED fulfills a soft power function that belonged to the CIA decades ago. They are classified as an NGO but that's just legal window dressing. They are almost entirely funded and operated by the US government, specifically receiving funding under State Department authorization bills. They received $187,000,000 in 2017. NED's own history page details a great deal of their funding history in both directions. It's like a spiderweb of regime change promotion. NED's founder Allen Weinstein openly admits that "a lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA". In Nicaragua for example NED "promoted democracy" by giving millions of dollars to the Contras while they were skinning people alive, burning schools, and dismembering children. That funding was intended for journalists, radios, vehicles, newspapers, etc. The actual death squads were supplied and directed by the CIA. Separation of duties, but the same end result. Why? NED is a propaganda outfit but not a spy agency. Even countries that resent their influence rarely jail people for taking their money. Taking CIA money would usually end in a long jail sentence or execution. NED also openly influences US domestic groups which would be illegal for the CIA. Somethingawful poster Brown Moses created Bellingcat and received funding from NED and George Soros's Open Societies Foundation. That's basically conspiracy rocket fuel lmao. No wonder people went nuts. When the accusation was first leveled most readers dismissed it as ridiculous. Then he admitted it. Goon Robert Evans is also a writer there. I even like some of his domestic articles and podcasts but lol at Bellingcat taking that money. In contrast China's soft power is very limited, crude, and ineffective. If they were really smart they would offer free gacha currency or affiliate links in return for promoting CCP propaganda. Millions of westerners would be become wumaos overnight and promote Xi Thought in exchange for free S-Rank pulls in anime games.
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Zakrello posted:in short, yes there are I can't find the video but I once watched an interview with an older chinese martial artist talking about different styles of kung fu, he illustrated a point about effectiveness with a clip showing a fight between American and Latin America special forces guys who had, according to him, agreed to a no-holds-barred fight. The yank just poked the other guy in the eye first move and it was all over.
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:There's some confusion amongst people that make this accusation. Did you see the debate where he was calling that professor guy names and whining like a little bitch lol
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Mugsbaloney posted:Did you see the debate where he was calling that professor guy names and whining like a little bitch lol While finding the video I discovered that he was funded by the Atlantic Council too. He denied it first in a rude way before clarifying, "Ugggh you idiots they didn't pay Bellingcat, they pay me specifically". Now he just needs funding from the Bilderberg Group and Trilateral Commission to become the avatar of globalist conspiracy theories.
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Fojar38 posted:China Daily is state propaganda and the Chinese government says "we're definitely gonna start reforming the economy soon. Real soon. We promise. Any day now" basically every few months for the past decade and counting even as it stagnates more and more with each passing year Thats because you need to bribe people to keep their support those PLA officials need a retirement lest they get idea about who really runs the show.
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Part of the left turning into their own qanon really sucks. You just can't participate in left wing politics anymore without being infested by those people and tankies. I hate it.
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Grand Fromage posted:Part of the left turning into their own qanon really sucks. You just can't participate in left wing politics anymore without being infested by those people and tankies. I hate it. Centrist spotted! Grr! I guess you just believe change isn't worth trying! Now, back to planning - first we'll come for the CLASS TRAITOR teachers...
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Strategic Tea posted:Centrist spotted! Grr! I guess you just believe change isn't worth trying! poo poo i've been made running full speed to the biden van for my exfiltration
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Regardless who funds Bellingcat their analysis and break down of misinformation is legit. If they aren't legit they have done a very, very, very good job.
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I can see how Bellingcat accepting State dept money could be construed as Problematic, I mean, when you do debunking of Russian lies, you want to stay as impartial as possible or you are just giving free ammunition to the tankies. OTOH why anyone should give two shits about the charge of the twitter brigade is beyond me.
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punk rebel ecks posted:So do you all see SOEs as a good thing? Sony Online Entertainment is mediocre at best.
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Australian coal is too dirty, and burning it will harm China's environment, did you know? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-26/china-claims-quality-problem-with-australian-coal/12921354
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100% of people out to unmask bellingcat and their state department funding will uncritically repost every weirdo journalist hack whose whole output is spreading russian state propaganda (blumenthal, norton and such). When you point out that they hide their funding sources or seem to be physically unable to condemn any morally bad thing by the Russian government to show any semblance of independence the replies are "well at least I don't blindly believe US mainstream media" as if supporting values and causes is impossible, you have to choose a state on the map and stand by it no matter what
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I mean the US government funding investigative journalism on countries it doesn't like is so banal it seems downright above board. The findings are real and the despots are terrible. There's no need to even bother making poo poo up. IMO it is the same psychology as victim blaming. I don't want to believe that something horrible happened, so see here the villagers are actually terrorists and that's just riot gas not mustard gas (u can tell from some of the pixels...)
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Jeoh posted:aren't blumenthal and norton just failsons being a propagandist for a lovely mafia state is a pretty epic fail yeah I don't know if Chinese media is the same but in Russia you have state propagandists who have several targets of attack (Ukraine, west, gays, internal opposition) and they are absolutely not allowed to discuss any bad things happening in Russia to the point where an average scoop on the evening news is: "everywhere else: riots, war, chaos. Russia: prosperity, stability, peace" A special case of this is "independent" journalists or bloggers who do not work directly for the government media agencies but still only publish pro-government takes and do not criticize anything that could make the government look bad Norton and Blumenthal do the latter from what I can tell by them posting a ton of western atrocities, defending Russia and never criticizing any of the evils it does and it's a shame they can leave their houses without being pelted by rotten vegetables Somaen fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Nov 25, 2020 |
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Did bashar al assad brutalize and kill enough syrian people that now the "tankies" like him too?
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hakimashou posted:Did bashar al assad brutalize and kill enough syrian people that now the "tankies" like him too? They never didn't like him
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hakimashou posted:Did bashar al assad brutalize and kill enough syrian people that now the "tankies" like him too? tankies only need to know two things: - assad opposes the us - syria has red and stars in their flag ergo, unflinching support for the syrian state
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hakimashou posted:Did bashar al assad brutalize and kill enough syrian people that now the "tankies" like him too? They've loved Assad from the beginning of the civil war. Somaen posted:I don't know if Chinese media is the same but in Russia you have state propagandists who have several targets of attack (Ukraine, west, gays, internal opposition) and they are absolutely not allowed to discuss any bad things happening in Russia to the point where an average scoop on the evening news is: "everywhere else: riots, war, chaos. Russia: prosperity, stability, peace" Yeah, this is exactly the same strategy as China.
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Grand Fromage posted:They've loved Assad from the beginning of the civil war. Why? "Famous communist Assad with all his communist policies" Or are tankies just yay dictators now? You'd think they'd support the PKK more.
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Flannelette posted:Why? Tankies just want to lick a boot. They don't really care whose boot it is as long as they can deepthroat that poo poo. Also the US was not big on Assad, therefore he must be good.
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Julius CSAR posted:The thinking is basically: Assad opposes the US, therefore he is good. Yeah, this. It's the basic anti-imperialism that anyone the USA opposes must be good and anything bad about them is US propaganda.
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