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MrYenko posted:So. Didn't an ERAU Piper crash a couple years ago on a training flight precisely because of that wing spar corrosion issue? I assume that is the instigating event for this AD, for that matter
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ERAU had the wings fall off a mid-2000s Arrow a couple years ago during a check ride. The plane's entire life had been spent at ERAU, and it seemed to have been well maintained. I think everyone knew this was coming, and it's why a lot of people are doing commercial and CFI checkrides 172s instead of any sort of complex or high performance airplane right now: DPEs didn't want to get in Arrows after the accident.
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Is that a problem with pipers or Embry Riddle?
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Cojawfee posted:Is that a problem with pipers or Embry Riddle? Pipers, certainly. It’s just interesting that they were able to divest the fleet before any meaningful regulatory action was taken.
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MrYenko posted:Pipers, certainly. It’s just interesting that they were able to divest the fleet before any meaningful regulatory action was taken. To be fair, if the wings fell off a plane in my fleet I'd not want to be operating a bunch of them after that.
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hobbesmaster posted:To be fair, if the wings fell off a plane in my fleet I'd not want to be operating a bunch of them after that.
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hobbesmaster posted:To be fair, if the wings fell off a plane in my fleet I'd not want to be operating a bunch of them after that. Is this typical?
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Cojawfee posted:Is this typical?
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MrYenko posted:Pipers, certainly. It’s just interesting that they were able to divest the fleet before any meaningful regulatory action was taken. The timing may have been unrelated to the AD (although the decision to go with Cessna was probably a mix of the AD and getting a good deal), since big university flight departments can swap out most of their basic training fleets every few years. When I worked for UND, they went from Warriors to glass cockpit Warriors, to 172's in maybe 6 years, so I'd imagine Riddle rotates their airplanes out every few years as well.
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standard.deviant posted:I think it’s important to think about all the other planes in the fleet where the wings didn’t fall off. How is your job at Piper sales going?
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The AD stems from the fact that corrosion was happening in a place where you won’t normally see it, so now you gotta put inspection hatches. Worth noting that ERAU is in Florida right by the Atlantic, a position which would make me personally only own composite planes period.
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hobbesmaster posted:How is your job at Piper sales going?
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Jimmy Carter posted:Worth noting that ERAU is in Florida right by the Atlantic, a position which would make me personally only own composite planes period.
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Speaking of Pipers, is it common engineering practice to have wing attach bolts that rotate in their mounts when the bolt gets unloaded from having the wings start to gain lift? PA 46s do that and it was disconcerting seeing the torque stripe broken on each inspection until we found out that stripe only exists for inspectors to verify the nut was torqued during production.
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EvenWorseOpinions posted:Speaking of Pipers, is it common engineering practice to have wing attach bolts that rotate in their mounts when the bolt gets unloaded from having the wings start to gain lift? PA 46s do that and it was disconcerting seeing the torque stripe broken on each inspection until we found out that stripe only exists for inspectors to verify the nut was torqued during production. I’m not an engineer, but the torque specs on most things that are loaded strictly in shear are (comparatively) really low. I’m assuming that’s partly because “who cares if the round bolt rotates when unloaded,” and partly because they need the clearance so the bolt and structure can expand and contract with temperature. Again, I am not a
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Found in the middle of a twitter thread on the internet darling ekranoplan, a kamikaze pic that looks like something out of Bugs Bunny. https://twitter.com/TheDreadShips/status/1331331758051241988
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Godholio posted:Less than 10 hour mission, agreed. After that, you're on borrowed time. We've definitely had to make the lav off limits to males' #1. *cries in two-seater*
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It certainly didn't help the pilots goal when he hit dead center on the ships armor belt.
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Ola posted:Found in the middle of a twitter thread on the internet darling ekranoplan, a kamikaze pic that looks like something out of Bugs Bunny. That is my favourite thing of the day. Lost it many times. But morbid 
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"&ICID=ref_fark"?
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Groda posted:"&ICID=ref_fark"? It's a news aggregator I occasionally use. Sometimes there's some neat stuff, but as it's user submitted....it's hit or miss. I usually sanitize the URLs sorry.
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https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/24/21612702/zunum-aero-sues-boeing-fraud-hybrid-electric-jet So some bright young aviation startup partnered with Boeing (!) and after failure is now suing Boeing for fraud, IP theft, and trying to poach their engineers, like they didn't want a new company building planes or something I mean, I believe the charges, but I don't know why they expected otherwise
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Humphreys posted:It's a news aggregator I occasionally use. Sometimes there's some neat stuff, but as it's user submitted....it's hit or miss. I usually sanitize the URLs sorry. I can't believe fark still exists.
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Cojawfee posted:I can't believe fark still exists. Duke still sucks and I still hate Laettner. Nebakenezzer posted:https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/24/21612702/zunum-aero-sues-boeing-fraud-hybrid-electric-jet They were expecting to be bought for whatever their work so far had been giving the founder(s) a modest pay day.
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Cojawfee posted:I can't believe fark still exists. It shouldn't.
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hobbesmaster posted:Duke still sucks and I still hate Laettner. Still I don't get why they are suprised
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Humphreys posted:It's a news aggregator I occasionally use. Sometimes there's some neat stuff, but as it's user submitted....it's hit or miss. I usually sanitize the URLs sorry. We know what Fark is. It’s just passé.
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Nebakenezzer posted:https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/24/21612702/zunum-aero-sues-boeing-fraud-hybrid-electric-jet "Founded by former executives from Microsoft and Google" Mystery solved
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Platystemon posted:We know what Fark is.  who cares
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CarForumPoster posted:
It's no ebaumsworld, but fark sucks.
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Godholio posted:It's no ebaumsworld, but fark sucks. Now, is THAT place still a thing?
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CarForumPoster posted:
people who can’t take a mild ribbing
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Two or three F-35s just flew over my house. Can I just confirm: they loud
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I think the RAF is getting Bs to operate off the QEIIs for... Reasons? Why they didn’t buy As and get Bs for the RN is just  procurement at its finest.
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MrYenko posted:I think the RAF is getting Bs to operate off the QEIIs for... Reasons? The RAF is operating warplanes from a floating hotel in Dubai? 
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Phanatic posted:I guess their readiness rate must be improving. They started as a flight of five.
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