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Aramoro posted:Immoral to those who can afford to have morals like that. It's very easy to sit in a position of privilege and say 'It's immoral to accept money from the Army'. Its quite a different thing to be the guy growing up on a housing estate, no education, no job prospects and turning down someone saying they'll take you out of there and give you a trade. im a college dropout with agorophobia, a homeless mother, and serious mental health issues (i post on somethingawful). don't discredit the millions of us who chose differently even in the same dire straits. i don't hate you for choosing otherwise, but i will not say what you did was moral, nor that you truly could not have chosen otherwise.
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T-man posted:im a college dropout with agorophobia, a homeless mother, and serious mental health issues (i post on somethingawful). don't discredit the millions of us who chose differently even in the same dire straits. i don't hate you for choosing otherwise, but i will not say what you did was moral, nor that you truly could not have chosen otherwise. Well done you for meeting your own moral standard then. I'm not discounting anyone who tries to live to a moral standard like that. The choice to join the army may not be moral to me, but might be to them given the position that society has put them in. There are literally adverts on the TV right now telling you if you live in a shittty Welsh Town then just join the navy, it'll make you a man. You're asking a child to make a choice against everything society is telling him will make him a man and a success. That's a lot to put on a kid.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I love posts that basically say "I'm not judging you but I'm totally judging you." "I don't have that problem, bye!"
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rodbeard posted:Well Amazon may be a poo poo company but I know they pay more than minimum wage. I don't know how the education system works in the UK but I have trouble believing you live in government housing but aren't going to qualify for substantial financial aide. Even if your story added up I would value the lives of Iraqi children more than the education of your daughter and it's kind of a bad time to bring up your cousin joining the Australian army: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-55088230 Added up? What government aid? That’s not how the U.K. works, you are middle class and you go to university, your family is on benefits because your brother is very very disabled, you do not. if you were rich enough to send your kid to university then you would not qualify for state benefits in the first place that’s the point, if you are born in the underclass they want you to stay in your place. The navy aren’t going to be anywhere near Iraqi children given the big flying aircraft carriers in the Avengers have yet to be invented, and my cousin spent years in Afghanistan re-building the civilian infrastructure but go off I guess.
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learnincurve posted:Added up? What government aid? That’s not how the U.K. works, you are middle class and you go to university, your family is on benefits because your brother is very very disabled, you do not. if you were rich enough to send your kid to university then you would not qualify for state benefits in the first place that’s the point, if you are born in the underclass they want you to stay in your place. Surely there's no huge upfront costs for university in the UK currently, just very large debts? Both tuition fees and student loan come through the same system, otherwise only the stinking rich could go to university. Yes, it means a larger debt afterwards but in not sure how money limits access in the first place. Edit: yeah double checked but this is absolutely the case. Unless you had some strange idea of your children being debt free in university (only for the very rich) they'd only be in the same position as everyone else that goes here. Actual content: 
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bulletsponge13 posted:I won't judge someone for joining the military, but as a Combat Vet, I will discourage it. For some, that's the only real option.
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OwlFancier posted:There are the upfront costs of moving somewhere and you're likely dependent on whether you can find work once you're there too. Also lol @ university in hell year 2020 just generally. Not really. Students pretty much live entirely in either student accommodation or student friendly accommodation which means it's all based around when you get your loan payment. There are also various funds for really low income students. OK yeah I know everything is screwed right now for everyone but that doesn't appear to be the reasoning here
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Please just loving don’t. You think we haven’t costed this out, you think we have the money for transport and living costs once she goes? Where will she live, what will she eat? Loans don’t cover everything. Don’t sit there from a position of power googling how you would spend money if you were as disadvantaged and poor as me, it makes you as bad as all those Karen’s who kept trying to “advise” people on benefits on how to spend our free school meals vouchers. I’m not poor because I’m bad with money, I’m poor and the best person you will ever meet at managing money in your life and we simply cannot afford to send her to uni.
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Data Graham posted:I thought the "ersatz South Park didactic animation" thing was played out 20 years ago with Michael Moore Remember that right wing Christianity is like the Midwest in spots where they’re like decades in the past. Expect to see a scorching hot takedown of those awful LGBTQ in weird Spider-Man Elsa CGI when you ha a grandkids
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PetraCore posted:Right, I think it's good for people to discourage others from joining the military, but I also don't think it's good for people to go 'veterans don't deserve good care because the military sucks'. I don't think it's military worship to point out that vets are often hosed over by the military. To be fair no really seems to be doing this, at least in this discussion. It’s more I want to benefit from it but please don’t remind me that what I do has consequences. Which is more or less how these discussions tend to go with poor people being used as a cudgel to protect them depending on the arguers politics
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rodbeard posted:Well Amazon may be a poo poo company but I know they pay more than minimum wage. I don't know how the education system works in the UK but I have trouble believing you live in government housing but aren't going to qualify for substantial financial aide. How do you 'know' this? Citations? Shockingly, the standards for living in public housing in the UK are different from the standards in the US. Furthermore, the UK slashed the grants given to students while dramatically raising tuition fees.
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snergle posted:amish vaccinate dumb dumbs. thats how old vaccines are amish do them. Ehhhhh I think it depends on where you are There was an outbreak of measles in the local Amish population a few years back because they hadn't been vaccinated. They did do the smart thing and get vaccinated at that point in time though
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T-man posted:oh no, not complicated ideas bought about by a rigorous analysis of the world. having axioms and deriving them is trolling, much like giving bad ideas their proper respect is harmful to my ability to convince the already decided. if i could convince them not to send their kid into the mavy I'd try, but it's not. I’m literally on the same side of this argument as you.
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Len posted:Ehhhhh I think it depends on where you are my amish experience is probably more of a mennonite experience in north ca. they wore pink and blue and they vaccinated their kids. one of the kids even went to public school w/ us.
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sugar mouse posted:Not really. Students pretty much live entirely in either student accommodation or student friendly accommodation which means it's all based around when you get your loan payment. There are also various funds for really low income students. Hi. I went to university in the UK in 2010, I was one of the only people that I know of to not go to a local place - I went to a university about 30 miles from where I lived. I moved into student accommodation because it was cheaper than commuting (and going by train took ~80 minutes each way). During my three years there there was only one year I was able to afford rent without spending the entirety of my maintenance loans (and one year where my rent was significantly more than what I received support-wise), which without employment left me with about £1000 a year for food and other stuff. For one year everyone in the accommodation complex's maintenance loan payments routinely did not arrive until 1/2 months after rent was already due. One of my university classmates spent his first year homeless because he could not apply for help as he was estranged from his dad, and therefore couldn't declare their income; I had to act as his guarantor for the next year so he could actually get accommodation at all. Since then tuition fees have been tripled, grants have been cut entirely afaik, and student rent has increased, most likely above inflation. If you're poor in the UK, you absolutely can go to university, and many people I know did! But your options are absolutely limited because the amount of support you get is barely there and as a result it's significantly harder unless you're lucky enough to find employment that fits around your studies.
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1stGear posted:I once saw a Mennonite woman in full dress and bonnet cruising around on an ATV, which was an amusing juxtaposition. It's always fun to go to Vegas or the Grand Canyon and see the young (late teenage) Amish and Mennonites carousing around in full dress doing the walkabout-and-experience-life-before-settling-down thing.
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sugar mouse posted:Edit: yeah double checked but this is absolutely the case. Unless you had some strange idea of your children being debt free in university (only for the very rich) they'd only be in the same position as everyone else that goes here. The UK system absolutely does make it easier to go to university for some people, those people being the middle class. Aramoro has a new favorite as of 19:26 on Nov 29, 2020 |
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Y'all can take this pro/neutral/anti military slapfight elsewhere. I don't regularly read this thread because I deal with enough idiots irl, and it stresses me out. But I've got reports stacking up from this thread about idiots yelling about idiots, and I'm tired of Idiotception. Please and thank you.
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I've got this great idea for a killer AOC tweet. It starts with a simple photoshop of this completely normal image that I have
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I came here to post that tweet. https://twitter.com/NeverSociaIism/status/1332916294811852800 Definitely a "hot for teacher" thing, and I'm very curious about what the original source was; surely it must have been porn.
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