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Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


...we're getting closer.

PS: update on last page

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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
That's exactly where I was hoping you'd end this update. :allears:

silence2090
Feb 26, 2013
In the words of Mighty Skeletor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9yFOG7nqNc

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

නෝනාවරුනි
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QI35urX_wc

Buzzsaw Roomba
Feb 14, 2012

Christ, what an asshole.
hahaha yessss :syoon:

Bloody Emissary
Mar 31, 2014

Powawa~n
Here we gooooo. :getin:

BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?

Blueberry Pancakes posted:

That's exactly where I was hoping you'd end this update. :allears:

:same:

NeverHelm
Aug 9, 2017

Never attribute to malice that post which is adequately explained by a poor sense of humor.
Welcome to the endgame, ladies and gentlemen. Where the veil is lifted and you can see the truth behind the lies. This one's a doozy.

Capfalcon
Apr 6, 2012

No Boots on the Ground,
Puny Mortals!

I honestly think this is my favorite final case out of all three games.

Leamonde
Aug 2, 2012
So Kirumi wasn't actually tasked to "Make AmericaJapan Great Again"? :saddowns:

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

නෝනාවරුනි

Leamonde posted:

So Kirumi wasn't actually tasked to "Make AmericaJapan Great Again"? :saddowns:

Neither was Korekiyo a serial murderer for his sister.

Wait, that'd mean that Kokichi's goons don't exist either, right? We know that Kokichi being a remnant of despair is false, but his motive video can't be used as evidence for it (because it's most certainly false, too). Shuichi should have been the Ultimate Lawyer instead.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!

wologar posted:

Neither was Korekiyo a serial murderer for his sister.

Wait, that'd mean that Kokichi's goons don't exist either, right? We know that Kokichi being a remnant of despair is false, but his motive video can't be used as evidence for it (because it's most certainly false, too). Shuichi should have been the Ultimate Lawyer instead.

I think it's safe to assume that if you're getting contradictory stories from the same source at different times, when the motivation for telling you a specific story changes, that both stories are lies.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

wologar posted:

Neither was Korekiyo a serial murderer for his sister.

Except his sister had a visible ghost though in his execution video.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Quackles posted:

Well, obviously Tsumugi will survive. She's best girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgflCE7zRpc

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


TwoPair posted:

Except his sister had a visible ghost though in his execution video.

Very fancy holograms surely, or his own delusions. Did anyone else see the ghost?

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
I had this whole theory I was going to type out about how this Junko is from a series of cloning experiments, hence 53rd, and the audience she's entertaining is made of Junko clones, but it's late and this last update fried my brain. I don't know where this train is going, but it looks like it's going off the rails now.

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?

Capfalcon posted:

I honestly think this is my favorite final case out of all three games.

Yeah, don't mind me, I'm just over here grinning :allears:

(I don't mean to join the chorus of "oh boy oh boy here it comes", but I can't help it... I was do disappointed to see Junko again [Amanda Miller or not], and then so, so, soooo happy when this happened.)

Kangra
May 7, 2012

I'm guessing Tsumugi (or whoever she really is; at this point she might be a robot or something) is a fan obsessed with the entirety of the games, and so re-created their ideal version of it by using the Flashback technology. It kind of seems headed in the direction of meta-commentary on the series and its fans as well.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
The real Junko was inside us all along

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

Leamonde posted:

So Kirumi wasn't actually tasked to "Make AmericaJapan Great Again"? :saddowns:

It's astonishing that none of the other students even questioned it.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


...! posted:

It's astonishing that none of the other students even questioned it.

distracted by the robot

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


what the gently caress is going on

mycelia
Apr 28, 2013

POWERFUL FUNGAL LORD



frajaq posted:

what the gently caress is going on

Junkos! :toot:

GuyUpNorth
Apr 29, 2014

Witty phrases on random basis
At least this case of Junkos is only cosplaying far as I can tell. Stretching the triggers of cospox even further with Hajime.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


GuyUpNorth posted:

At least this case of Junkos is only cosplaying far as I can tell. Stretching the triggers of cospox even further with Hajime.

Cospox: It's a lie!

mycelia
Apr 28, 2013

POWERFUL FUNGAL LORD



"An entire world of Junkos" was her end goal in SDR2, so let's not rule anything out yet.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

frajaq posted:

what the gently caress is going on

Danganronpa. :v:

Skeleton Mom
Aug 11, 2008

Doc Hawkins posted:

distracted by the robot

it's not unreasonable to suggest that some of the talents could have been implanted in addition to memories as that's a major plot point in DR2, but *gestures at robot*

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


Skeleton Mom posted:

it's not unreasonable to suggest that some of the talents could have been implanted in addition to memories as that's a major plot point in DR2, but *gestures at robot*

I mean, the robot's talent is literally that he is a robot.

That's the very definition of 'implanted', or at least 'constructed'.

Skeleton Mom
Aug 11, 2008

Quackles posted:

I mean, the robot's talent is literally that he is a robot.

That's the very definition of 'implanted', or at least 'constructed'.

he'd definitely be an outlier though, since "implanting" his "talent" would be a very different process from the rest of them...

Buzzsaw Roomba
Feb 14, 2012

Christ, what an asshole.
Something about this discussion seems vaguely robophobic...

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

Quackles posted:

I mean, the robot's talent is literally that he is a robot.

That's the very definition of 'implanted', or at least 'constructed'.

ULTIMATE Robot <:mad:>

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


...! posted:

ULTIMATE Robot <:mad:>

Super Duper High School Robot :v:

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles
Super Duper High School might fit for the robot, but Tsumugi can do costume changes in a second flat, I'd definitely say she earned her Ultimate title!

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Reveilled posted:

Super Duper High School might fit for the robot, but Tsumugi can do costume changes in a second flat, I'd definitely say she earned her Ultimate title!

Nah, you can still tell there's a costume change. Ultimate would either change imperceptibly gradually over time, or instantly change when not being observed.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


Maybe she's the Ultimate Super Duper High School Cosplayer. :getin:

Fedule
Mar 27, 2010


No one left uncured.
I got you.
I believe now is an appropriate juncture to revisit The Pattern.

Fedule posted:

Given these recaps, I would like to draw the attention of people to whom all this was new to The Pattern, which players of DR2 began to notice.

Ch1: The Statement of Intent, in which the game attempts to ward off any appearance of anyone having plot armour. Both chapters hinge on the realization that a character was very much not who we thought they were.

Ch2: The Gutpunch, in which a relatively straightforward murder is complicated significantly by tragic circumstances and muddled further by obfuscation. Also, both Ch2s were arguably accidents. Both chapters also involve the presence of a serial killer and hinge on the technicalities of Monokuma's body discovery announcement.

Ch3: The Double, in which, well, two people die, notably in the course of a needlessly convoluted scheme whose sheer scope is the undoing of the culprit. Both chapters hinge on misunderstandings about the order of the killings.

Ch4: The Pressure Cooker, in which the characters begin to fray, and allegiances are called sharply into question, until someone makes a sacrifice for the sake of the group's survival. Both chapters hinge on the physical layout of a space.

Ch5: The Curveball, in which an attempted decisive action leads to the shocking discovery of a body right at the climactic moment. The ensuing investigation only seems to multiply the mystery count. Both cases hinge on a dramatic leap of faith on the part of the protagonist, and lead to twists in their final moments.

Ch6: The Reveal, in which no new murder occurs, but the protagonist is tasked with unravelling the central mystery of the setting, and proving it in a final trial showdown. Both cases hinge on the mid-trial reappearance of Junko Enoshima.

I bring this up not to really attempt to guide speculation, but so that any readers who are coming in completely blind might have some idea of the levels of 4D Mind Chess players were attempting to engage in while making predictions back in 2017.

Leamonde
Aug 2, 2012

Fedule posted:

I believe now is an appropriate juncture to revisit The Pattern.

Even if it's not a 1:1:1, the consistency of it all is quite amazing.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!


VIDEO: The Sixth-to-Last Trial Video



Huh? You know him, don't you? He was in the Jabberwock Island killing game.



Th-That's not what we mean. What are *you* doing!?

What am I doing...? I'm just cosplaying.

Cosplaying?



But it's not just normal cosplay! Cuz I can perfectly replicate the character!

Check it out! Even my voice sounds exactly the same!

Is Junko Enoshima also...















A number of characters?

How can she cosplay as students of Hope's Peak Academy!? Because Tsumugi told us...



Lately, some people prefer to cosplay as non-fictional characters, which is unforgivable...

It's so unforgivable that I break out in cospox if I even attempt it...



So then...what does this mean?

...What?

If what I said was the truth, then Hope's Peak Academy was...



If Tsumugi can cosplay as them...there's only one possibility.



I had the biggest loving smile on my face when I realized where this ending was going.





...Fictional?

The Biggest, Most Awful, Most Tragic Event in Human History never happened... Hope's Peak, the Future Foundation, and the Remnants of Despair do not exist...

Because it's all fiction. None of it actually happened in the real world.





Dangan...ronpa...?

What!? What are you even...talking about?

What? You've never heard of Danganronpa? We're all...characters in it.

That's right! Me, that nasty pig barf, and everyone else are all fictional.



Nope! Cuz it's fiction! Doesn't exist in the real world!

Wh-What...?

Isn't that surprising!?

Yeah... Up till now, you thought fiction was fact.



This whole Danganronpa story was just stuffed into your memories.

For that reason, you all believed that work of fiction was, in fact, reality.

And that's how we put on a cosplay performance for everyone to see!

A cosplay performance of the whole wide, Danganronpa world!





This time, we cycle through a highlight reel of the first two games.





It'd be kinda lame if that was all the big bad mastermind could do...

I can do far more than that... I can cosplay the world itself!

So if you want to make me your enemy...



Danganronpa...itself?

B-But...why? Why would you do this? Why make us think it's real—



This is the world of Danganronpa, y'know? No poo poo we're playin' the killing game.

But it's not just any killing game. It's a killing game that takes place in the real world, propped up by fiction.





But...if it's fiction... If everything...isn't real...



MAKI: The world outside...is fine, right?



How did you like that scene!? Our staff worked very hard on it!

...Staff?

There's no need to worry about the people backstage!



The world hasn't been destroyed.

Reallyl? It's not destroyed!? Then we can all go home and—

Nah, that ain't happenin'.

Nyeh!?



I told you that ain't happenin', you dumb sea urchin-headed...wait, that's me!

Monokuma, what's going on?

Do you really wanna know?



The walls of this academy are your world now. The outside world is of no concern to you.

















Wh-What? Who are these people!?

They've all been watching this killing game transpire.

Of course, those you see here are only a fraction of our total viewers.

...Watching us?



So this was all a show... This whole killing game!

Yeah, everyone in this whole peaceful world watches this show.

Peaceful...world?

Th—The outside world is p-peace itself. There's n-no despair or wars, a-and...







W-Wait, why would a peaceful world need a game like th—



It is so very peaceful... And so, it is so very boring.

With so much peace, people have become bored. They need stimulation...

We created this Ultimate Real Fiction so Danganronpa could fulfill that need.



CHIAKI: Everyone loves the killing games... This killing game is for everyone... So it's everyone's killing school semester.







We...we were forced to play...some fictional killing game?















What is this...?

Can't you tell? It's the title of the current Danganronpa you guys are doing.

A testament to the unquenchable thirst this blood-soaked world has for Danganronpa...

...What do you mean?



Huh...? How long has it gone on...?

Did you forget what season of Danganronpa this is? You guys are dumber than ants.

Shuichi...what do you think?

What?





Mmhmhm... And if that's not enough of a hint, just feast your eyes below my belt.

What killing game is this...? What number Danganronpa is this...?



Then, this killing game is...

























MONOKUMA: And now, we're in the 53rd season of Danganronpa!



What, did the letter in there throw you off? Well, I guess that happens.





It was supposed to be a hint... But...whatever... I'm over it...

Since this is the 53rd season, one would expect to see a multitude of characters...

But you only have memories from the first two, so you wouldn't recognize any others.

That's why I've limited myself to only cosplaying as Hope's Peak characters.



The 53rd Danganronpa...

Trapped in a fictional, Danganronpa-inspired world, and forced to play the killing game...

That is what the world desired from you.

So yes, I'm the mastermind! But the *real* mastermind forcing you to do this is...

ME! :getin:





The whole world...is the real mastermind?

The reason I made this world... The reason you guys did the killing game...

It's all because the outside world wants it, you know?



...Project?

Whaaaat? You don't know what that is? Is your brain leaking oil or something?

The ones managing this killing game aren't psychos like the Remnants of Despair...

They're literal managers! Literally!











That's the last one! We have a full set now.





Sorry I couldn't put that in the video. I recorded the trial without sound the first time and saved over the file like a dumbass.





Yeah! The company that makes Danganronpa is called Team Danganronpa.

You guys are behind in your studies! The audience knew the answer right away!

It's in the title credits at the start, too.

























I'm proud to be a part of this longstanding SA tradition.







A collage of shots from the game scrolls by.

TSUMUGI: We make the finest killing entertainment! Everyone enjoys our work oh—so-much! And our newest project is... Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony!





You created an entire fictional world...to make us do this fictional killing gamel?



Solitair fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Oct 2, 2023

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Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

*Banging my fists on the table*






I literally stood up in my room and clapped at the tv when i realised what the V3 meant. Those magnificant bastards

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