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I like the idea of book but I'm not going to give any personal info to someone with an 11 day old forum account
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Race Realists posted:now i cant unsee it this post expresses a full and complete understanding of A Confederacy of Dunces
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Race Realists posted:now i cant unsee it theres a lot of race realism in the book
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i read most posts as ignacious.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:if you want to read the book you can just click this Hey Brunch Covidian I hear you have 1250 dollars burning a hole in your pocket that you want to use to help the cause of antifascism why not donate it to the international anti-fascist defence fund? 
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Bideo James posted:theres a lot of race realism in the book I can't tell how much of it was sincere and how much of it wasn't. It's certainly a snapshot of a certain time and place in a unique artistic voice but also an immature one. Many of the deliberately horrible secondary characters land horribly flat and uncomfortable while the Ignatius and Myrna characters are the gold standard for reflection on certain types of modern internet dwellers. I don't know, maybe I've read it too many times. Victory Position posted:this post expresses a full and complete understanding of A Confederacy of Dunces lol
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icecream citadel posted:I can't tell how much of it was sincere and how much of it wasn't. It's certainly a snapshot of a certain time and place in a unique artistic voice but also an immature one. Many of the deliberately horrible secondary characters land horribly flat and uncomfortable while the Ignatius and Myrna characters are the gold standard for reflection on certain types of modern internet dwellers. I don't know, maybe I've read it too many times. yes.
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Dec 2, 2020 22:16
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icecream citadel posted:I recommend it! Some of it aged a little too poorly imo, but if you consider that this sort of thing wasn't really written about in the 1960's, Ignatius the the very model of the sexless Monarchist blowhard constantly writing long screeds about "the divine right of kings," moral purity and the evils of Communism. In that regard, it's only gotten more relevant. it's a 100% excellent book and absolutely captures the early 2010s neoreactionary blogger perfectly, except 50 years ahead.
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Just chiming in to say that it's a good book (the sartre one) and also brunch covidians is a cool name. However, I prefer "ranch covidian" which is a term I came up for CHUDs, you're welcome to use it.
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Toole killed himself because he saw his future as a forumsposter.
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Samovar posted:... They wanted to use femboys to erase transwomen. Some real "transwomen aren't real but femboys are" stuff where they wanted to "convince" transwomen that they could be a femboy. They also wanted to "confuse" normies so that people would call transwomen femboys. They also wanted to make an exception for being gay? Like it's only okay if it's with a femboy (but wouldn't that make the femboy gay?) inspired by japanese social nonsense. They hosed up hard and now normies have a nice term for cis-male cross dressers. Trans acceptance shot up recently, I'm not saying femboys did that but the goal was for it to do the opposite. The right wing is dumb as gently caress.
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lol don’t read anna’s Twitter or empathize. Dude I’m in a thread laughing at nazi Twitter weirdos and I try to understand how this poo poo happens.
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miniscule12 posted:They wanted to use femboys to erase transwomen. Some real "transwomen aren't real but femboys are" stuff where they wanted to "convince" transwomen that they could be a femboy. They also wanted to "confuse" normies so that people would call transwomen femboys. They also wanted to make an exception for being gay? Like it's only okay if it's with a femboy (but wouldn't that make the femboy gay?) inspired by japanese social nonsense. it is absolutely because they're all rock loving hard for cute fembois with big bubble butts and for no other reason. all that other poo poo is just justification.
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:Just chiming in to say that it's a good book (the sartre one) and also brunch covidians is a cool name. kranch covidians
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:it is absolutely because they're all rock loving hard for cute fembois with big bubble butts and for no other reason. all that other poo poo is just justification. You're probably right, but lol their "degeneracy" has betrayed them.
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i dont think there was an organized nazi femboy propaganda campaign its just a 4chan meme so theres overlap. its like how they were making lovely synth music a couple years ago
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https://twitter.com/GoranGligovic/status/1333710708282957825?s=19 they don't care
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the lesson I learned from Wuthering Heights is “these manor folk of the moors are fuckin batshit, goddamn”
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Dec 3, 2020 01:08
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If there's one book I think of as lacking in expressed moral lessons it's The Great Gatsby.
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Race Realists posted:https://twitter.com/GoranGligovic/status/1333710708282957825?s=19 Okay but why this thread because this looks more like a YA complaint than an alt-right one
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Heath posted:Okay but why this thread because this looks more like a YA complaint than an alt-right one are you serious right now, because that is the exact gripes they have about about colleges being sjw indoctrination centers to a tee
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Heath posted:Okay but why this thread because this looks more like a YA complaint than an alt-right one i thought the guy making the embedded tweet was a nazi or soemthing but he appears to not be
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we need a new thread for extremely confusing screencaps/quote tweets etc of adults arguing about YA novels. imagine how loving awful it would get immediately
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Farm Frenzy posted:i thought the guy making the embedded tweet was a nazi or soemthing but he appears to not be no the tweet the guy was responding to
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Dec 3, 2020 01:58
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https://twitter.com/oliviasolon/status/1334241066724290565?s=21
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Farm Frenzy posted:we need a new thread for extremely confusing screencaps/quote tweets etc of adults arguing about YA novels. imagine how loving awful it would get immediately that famous YA novel huckleberry finn
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Dec 3, 2020 02:12
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I don't think that person understands what Gatsby was about
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Race Realists posted:that famous YA novel huckleberry finn this current discourse is all a riff on a twitter YA novel author writing a 'TOP 20 WORST CLASSICS THAT YOU HAVE TO LEARN IN SCHOOL' thread where moby dick is #1. see this is what were missing without the cspam YA thread
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Dec 3, 2020 02:18
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I mean it’s pretty clear that teaching them is worthless if they misunderstood the book. I know the more fun thing is lol stupid idiots but it’s more likely they weren’t exactly used well.
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its just a classic high IQ internet dipshit philosophy debate that has no connection to reality. my experience in high school was that we learned a mix of YA and classics and it all sucked because the teachers never gave a poo poo and just told us what the themes of every text was so we could repeat them in the one essay we'd have to write
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It’s funny because Great Gatsby and Catcher in the Rye are the fossil remains of an earlier generation of reformers who tried to get literature relevant to the times and the experiences of children into schools. “YA” as a category is dumb as poo poo because how do you define it? Commercial and limited symbolism with a small vocabulary? Salinger would have said he was writing books that anyone could enjoy and was expressing ideas he considered important. Young adult literature just seems like the latest iteration of pulp or direct-to-paperback adventure or romance.
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Which is not to say that novels for kids that speak to their experiences aren’t important and can’t be good even if you’re not a kid, but when you’re 30 and get angry about books that aren’t marketed to teenagers, there’s something dysfunctional going on there.
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There is only one good YA author in all of history and it is Terry Pratchett Do the Earthsea books count as YA? If so Le Guin also qualifies but I've never read them, I'm working more on the strength of her being the obviously greatest author America has ever produced
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Race Realists posted:are you serious right now, because that is the exact gripes they have about about colleges being sjw indoctrination centers to a tee Are you referring to the tweet you posted or the thing he's responding to? Because he's right, there is absolutely a contingent of people who approach every story as though it's a moral lesson and what he's responding to is a real dumb take
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when people say YA in the context of people going psycho on twitter i think they generally mean this specific subculture or whatever of authors who got their start writing harry potter fanfic 20 years ago
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they also, as the tweet said, believe that every book must be didactic—that it must have a meaning which a clever reader can glean and internalize. a meaning, singular. none of these people have ever written a word of literature in their lives.
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It's also illiteracy in confusing plot points or characterizations in a book with "this is what the author things is good and right" How else do you end up with that reading of Gatsby?
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brugroffil posted:It's also illiteracy in confusing plot points or characterizations in a book with "this is what the author things is good and right" I want every one of these people to read Lolita and write an essay on it. Or at least a tweet.
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