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That works great until one person shits in the birdbath by using "but you didn't tell me not to say n- to literal children" as a defense to the time they did that
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Dec 2, 2020 18:27
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flakeloaf posted:https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/racial-slurs-banned-by-ottawa-school-board-even-during-quoting-or-reading-text-aloud-1.5213488 I think this is right for school boards; it's not correct at the university level but the kinds of useful and important conversations that come from discussing slurs or reading texts with them in it are not going to be a thing in high school. Excepting maybe Mark Twain, but you can swap that out for another reading.
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Dec 2, 2020 18:41
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The article kinda buries the lede because the school board statement covers much more than just racial slurs. "Pejorative terms used to describe disability attributes" in particular are kind of hard to avoid with a lot of classic literature. Hopefully it just means that teachers will read stuff out loud less though, and won't actually affect the books they choose for high school students. Though I guess book of negroes is out lol
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Philman posted:Canada is pro skilled immigrant express entry visa. People seem to get that in half the time. canadavisa forums were essential, I wouldn't have been able to complete my application without them. I also wouldn't have known that your PR fee receipt allows you to apply for BC MSP since the official application doesn't even have an option to submit that. I'll have to resume the fight with ICBC someday, I've just been busy to keep escalating 
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I'm not sure there's a great solution to this issue tbh. There's value in discussing this stuff once kids reach a certain age, but I also understand why people who are victimized by these slurs aren't in love with the idea of them being used in a classroom.
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Arivia posted:I think this is right for school boards; it's not correct at the university level but the kinds of useful and important conversations that come from discussing slurs or reading texts with them in it are not going to be a thing in high school. Excepting maybe Mark Twain, but you can swap that out for another reading. That's just it, yeah. At a university level everyone's an adult, and a scholarly approach to certain pieces of literature, or even pieces of language, can be approached a bit more head-on. Not straight-up saying that word out loud, that's still very not cool, but setting a reading list with books that contain those slurs is a surefire way to kickstart a conversation about shifts in language and culture, and encourage everyone to stop and look at just how much farther we have to go as a society. A state-mandated, mass-produced minimum-standard-level education intended for the same children who've negated entire weeks of French language training with discussion about seals, will tend towards the bland and flavourless. Teachers also have the wink-stomp "I can't set Flowers for Algernon on your reading list because its ableist slurs are a problem, but the librarian isn't letting the school board take it away from HIM, and I'm in my office to talk about interpreting anything you've read" option, and I'd expect the ones who are more passionate about the art than the rules will find ways to encourage the students who want to learn. flakeloaf has issued a correction as of 19:03 on Dec 2, 2020 |
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Dec 2, 2020 19:01
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I teach content that includes slurs. Its difficult to analyze modern media without doing so. I have a conversation with my students about what is appropriate to say, and that as a white person i will never repeat the words out loud. when it gets to those words in readings, I go “umph “ in a way that sounds like I’m beeping the word. Clumsy? but it gets the job done, let’s students know these are words you shouldn’t use and we get to analyze important modern and classic sources  .
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Dec 2, 2020 22:53
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that seems like a good compromise i'm glad to be proven wrong wrt my prior post
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Dec 2, 2020 22:54
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idly browsing for tar sands related t-shirts and this stupid cafepress shirt made me giggle with how impassive it is. (also gave me flashbacks -- a 90°C mix of bitumen, sand, water, and toluene tastes not as bad as you might expect but certainly not good and spurred me to keep a toothbrush and a change of clothes in my work vehicle)
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Dec 2, 2020 23:47
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flakeloaf posted:https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/racial-slurs-banned-by-ottawa-school-board-even-during-quoting-or-reading-text-aloud-1.5213488 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuePonni1Ic
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ARACHTION posted:I teach content that includes slurs. Its difficult to analyze modern media without doing so. I have a conversation with my students about what is appropriate to say, and that as a white person i will never repeat the words out loud. I love this because it shows how easy it is to talk critically about offensive material without being offensive. Its not a hard thing to do.
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coworker went to a brew pub last night and today complained to the rest of us that the brew pub wasnt following regulations and requiring people to be masked when not seated. loving incredible. STAY HOME. actual quote: "it's people like them that are going to get us shutdown again" RealityWarCriminal has issued a correction as of 01:56 on Dec 3, 2020 |
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Why the gently caress is your coworker going to a brew pub in the first place?
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Dec 3, 2020 01:56
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Anyone who eats in at a restaurant nowadays is just plain weird. I would feel wayyyy too uncomfortable to do that. I get it to go and consume it in solitude, shamefully.
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Dec 3, 2020 02:57
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priznat posted:Anyone who eats in at a restaurant nowadays is just plain weird. I would feel wayyyy too uncomfortable to do that. i don't like to bother with takeout, i prefer to eat in place when there isn't a pandemic, so we haven't really eaten something i haven't cooked since march. but yeah, like i don't get how people are so comfortable eating in a restaurant these days. i'm not bothering until i get a vaccine tbqh.
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Dec 3, 2020 03:22
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pretty cool to wake up to an email from the CRA about how they can't determine if i'm eligible for the CERB i recieved even though i am and demanding repayment by december 20th with no information about what to do about this
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Dec 3, 2020 13:39
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Martian Manfucker posted:pretty cool to wake up to an email from the CRA about how they can't determine if i'm eligible for the CERB i recieved even though i am and demanding repayment by december 20th with no information about what to do about this merry christmas. if they did that to me I'd flee into the woods, already got bag packed. i'm not going to corona jail
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Dec 3, 2020 14:11
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Rutibex posted:merry christmas. if they did that to me I'd flee into the woods, already got bag packed. i'm not going to corona jail lol you’re not gonna go to jail for that. certainly not anytime soon at least
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Dec 3, 2020 14:15
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mediaphage posted:lol you’re not gonna go to jail for that. certainly not anytime soon at least You go to jail when you don't pay them, and I can't pay them. People without money don't get justice.
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Dec 3, 2020 14:18
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Rutibex posted:You go to jail when you don't pay them, and I can't pay them. People without money don't get justice. you have to really not pay them though, they go to great pains to set up repayment plans, even ones that barely even touch the usurious interest they charge on the balance
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Dec 3, 2020 14:21
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infernal machines posted:you have to really not pay them though, they go to great pains to set up repayment plans, even ones that barely even touch the usurious interest they charge on the balance exactly, i’m not saying you can avoid it forever but you are definitely not going to jail anytime soon over this even in an absolute worst case scenario
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Dec 3, 2020 14:25
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infernal machines posted:you have to really not pay them though, they go to great pains to set up repayment plans, even ones that barely even touch the usurious interest they charge on the balance yeah i'm not going to be a live long indentured servant to the CRA either. they can add it to my student loans. hello yukon!
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Dec 3, 2020 14:29
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Martian Manfucker posted:pretty cool to wake up to an email from the CRA about how they can't determine if i'm eligible for the CERB i recieved even though i am and demanding repayment by december 20th with no information about what to do about this give them a call and ask what you can do to resolve this in my experience cra are almost always helpful when i've called them or vice versa hopefully phone queues aren't so crazy long now
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Dec 3, 2020 14:46
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definitely don't wait until the new year because it's essentially impossible to get through to anyone from january to may, even when there isn't a plague on
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Dec 3, 2020 14:55
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When the bank messed up my tax payment they sent me a letter 1.5 years later. I don't think CRA uses email to notify people, it might be a scam.
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Killin_Like_Bronson posted:When the bank messed up my tax payment they sent me a letter 1.5 years later. I don't think CRA uses email to notify people, it might be a scam. they deal with me by email but I have my account set up with them online. double check for sure to make sure it’s legit. might be able to clear the error st the same time if it is legit.
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Dec 3, 2020 15:06
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they use email to notify you that you have a message waiting in your cra account, assuming you have one of those and you've configured your preferences for this. they don't actually send you the notices, you have to log in to the cra account to check them
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Yeah the CRA will only send an email saying you have a message in your CRA account, if it doesn't read likequote:Dear Rutibex: then it's not actually from them. edit:beaten
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Dec 3, 2020 15:08
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Fwiw I've been in the Canadian legal business for ~15 years and read dozens of new judgments on a daily basis, and tax cases are especially important to me, and I think I've only seen one case in all that time where someone went to jail for not paying their taxes. It's a hard thing to do.
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They're probably just doing a blitz to look for actual scammers, some people on reddit were getting the same messages. Here's someone with similar issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/PersonalFinanceCanada/comments/k5sd8l/my_wife_received_a_weird_email_from_cra/ this does emphasize how bullshit it is that there is a MINIMUM though, the op on reddit got pinged because their 2020 income wasn't factored in yet. means tested garbage.
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Rutibex posted:You go to jail when you don't pay them, and I can't pay them. People without money don't get justice. This isn't America, it's much harder to go to jail for tax fraud here.
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yeah sorry it was email notification of a new mail in my CRA My Account thing, it's legit. i'm super stressed about this now because i have no way to repay the CERB i recieved since there's still no loving work after getting laid off
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try not to stress out too much and just call their general inquiries line when you have some time, if they haven't given you a specific contact number. they tend to be very accommodating and even if you do wind up having to repay it, they will work with you to make a payment plan. it's not fun, but it's not the end of the world either
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infernal machines posted:try not to stress out too much and just call their general inquiries line when you have some time, if they haven't given you a specific contact number. they tend to be very accommodating and even if you do wind up having to repay it, they will work with you to make a payment plan. it's not fun, but it's not the end of the world either Yeah and honestly tons of people in situations like OPs are just going to have their CERB debt forgiven in 6 months in my opinion. They'll make examples of a few people who really abuse it and quietly forgive the rest.
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you should not have to pay it back. the government does something good for struggling canadians, for the first time in decades, during a pandemic and economic recession, and now they want to claw it back. gently caress em. it had better be forgiven.
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Reality Protester posted:you should not have to pay it back. the government does something good for struggling canadians, for the first time in decades, during a pandemic and economic recession, and now they want to claw it back. gently caress em. it had better be forgiven. You'd think that but it's a Liberal government sooooooo..... If it were the cons they would have just said 'gently caress YOU' and let everyone lose their homes and starve last spring.
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Starks posted:This isn't America, it's much harder to go to jail for tax fraud here. Yeah imagine living in a country that ends up spending more money to punish people (by virtue of paying for a citizen to be in jail) than it would be to forgive the tax fraud lol
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EvilJoven posted:You'd think that but it's a Liberal government sooooooo..... https://twitter.com/cmaconthehill/status/1334168925806931972 If the Conservatives were in power we wouldn't even be getting a vaccine.
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Slotducks posted:Yeah imagine living in a country that ends up spending more money to punish people (by virtue of paying for a citizen to be in jail) than it would be to forgive the tax fraud lol That's never stopped basically every administration in our lifetimes from spending more on punishment than preventative social services before.
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