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s*x n*mb*r 69 0.22%
w@@d n_mb_r 420 1.34%
Jeb! number 538 1.72%
Biden numbr 30330 96.72%
Total: 31357 votes
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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

i dont think you can buy a ps5 for <= $800 right now unless you get lucky

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Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


comedyblissoption posted:

i dont think you can buy a ps5 for <= $800 right now unless you get lucky

they're lucky to be blessed by a strong democratic mayor ;0

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

tl;dr 1-time $800 stipend for up to 4k wait staff after announcing a 3-week restaurant lockdown

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Nichael posted:

sweet they can buy a ps5 and maybe one game/

ummmm actually the PS5 is backwards compatible with all of your PS4 games so you don't even need to buy the new releases just yet if you want to be fiscally responsible

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Nichael posted:

I genuinely don't know what the best move for the less than a dozen actual leftists in Congress is. I don't even know what you can do to meaningfully oppose the Democratic party establishment besides primary the gently caress out of them, and organize labor. Options seem pretty slim!

Good thing they're doing nothing and endorsing a rapist Republican

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Crazypoops posted:

Good thing they're doing nothing and endorsing a rapist Republican

hell yeah

Serf
May 5, 2011


if i had $800 i would use it to pay for the three crowns i just had done

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





$800 will buy you a decent pistol and couple boxes of ammo.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Some Guy TT posted:

not gonna lie that shirt kind of makes me want to not drink water and be a racist just out of petty spite

from a distance it reads as advocating for some kinda racist water

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


$800 is just enough to buy the alpine ursa dota 2 hat set

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/jackallisonLOL/status/1334198072767758336



The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

comedyblissoption posted:

tl;dr 1-time $800 stipend for up to 4k wait staff after announcing a 3-week restaurant lockdown

The $800 isn’t the problem here. I don’t know how many restaurant workers there are in LA but given it’s city of like 8 million people, there’s probably more then 4,000 people that qualify for and desperately need all the help they can get

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


$800 can't possibly last long in Los Angeles, even if the pittance that it is should've been given to more than 4k people

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

:trumppop: that is quite a roundabout way to give yourself a pass to call a man the ol' hard R

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Nichael posted:

$800 can't possibly last long in Los Angeles, even if the pittance that it is should've been given to more than 4k people

snap your fingers

that's how fast it's gone

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Victory Position posted:

snap your fingers

that's how fast it's gone

that's only because it costs $800 to snap your fingers in LA

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Epic High Five posted:

that's only because it costs $800 to snap your fingers in LA

Instead of giving $800 to 4000 People they could have made it into a raffle and given 3 people a million dollars so that they could finally afford to buy a 3 bedroom house in LA

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/Jamie_Maz/status/1334146129957675009

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

god i can't stand petes face

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

i am glad knives are out for this hack. he was anti bernie during the primary.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

comedyblissoption posted:

that green new deal shirt looks like total poo poo from an aesthetic standpoint




But run through a soft turd filter

Edit And no I will never read before I post

Comrade Koba posted:

looks like someone wanted to copy this painting



but instead they had a 5-year old draw AOC in watercolors



PoontifexMacksimus has issued a correction as of 12:48 on Dec 3, 2020

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

from a distance it reads as advocating for some kinda racist water

when you think about it water is what makes us racist

thank you obama for saving flint from racism

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

think its safe to assume im not the only person who had no idea what that was supposed to be referencing so

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1321887547564449793

so apparently aoc did a vanity fair photoshoot where she wore expensive clothes and right wingers were mad at her

even acknowledging thats a dumb reason to be mad at her its not exactly doing wonders for my aoc cancelmeter to learn that she considers one of her most badass moments to be that time she was saucy about using her brand to help sell designer fashion

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
To be honest I'm down with using dumb catchphrases to piss off the chuds. It's been so effective at making liberals look like idiots. That said, make sure it's something they actually react to.

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

from a distance it reads as advocating for some kinda racist water

now selling black rifle water, water with a hard R

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Drink mtn dew & say the gamer word

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013


for a second there I thought the dude on the right with a green rig in his mouth had just blown a siiiiiiiiick vape cloud

PuErhTeabag
Sep 2, 2018

I know this is like 5 pages back, but this (speculative fiction?) podcast about Trump and the CIA directing the last two seasons of GoT (and making it suck) seems a lot more plausible now.

https://theoryofeverythingpodcast.com/2019/06/operation-three-eyed-raven/

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/michael_david41/status/1334288467119931393

she looks and speaks worse than even Joe Biden

what the gently caress!!!

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/michael_david41/status/1334288467119931393

she looks and speaks worse than even Joe Biden

what the gently caress!!!

lol god she looks like she’s melting

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol god she looks like she’s melting

California is in the west, and I would consider her fairly wicked...someone get me a bucket of piss water!

Lansdowne
Dec 28, 2008

replace the entire text of the green new deal with a paragraph about creating an expeditionary force to find and destroy the hidden phylacteries of democrat leadership

Lady Militant
Apr 8, 2020

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

Nichael posted:

I genuinely don't know what the best move for the less than a dozen actual leftists in Congress is. I don't even know what you can do to meaningfully oppose the Democratic party establishment besides primary the gently caress out of them, and organize labor. Options seem pretty slim!

considering most of them have fundraising and campaigning apparatuses independent of the democratic party they should just cut to the chase already tbqh

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
this was good. the democrats are completely not up to the task for this historical moment

https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii126/articles/mike-davis-trench-warfare


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The one-size-fits-all suburban template that was used by the Biden campaign in Texas and almost everywhere else ignored the consensus view of veteran campaign strategists from both parties that the real key to swinging the state is the mobilization of the ‘sleeping’ Latino majority in South Texas, especially in the seven major border counties where 90 per cent of the population is of Mexican origin


[...]


However when the fog of battle dissipated, Democrats were stunned to discover that a high turnout had instead propelled a Trump surge along the border. In the three Rio Grande Valley counties (the agricultural corridor from Brownsville to Rio Grande City) which Clinton had carried by 40 per cent, Biden harvested a margin of only 15 per cent. More than half of the population of Starr County, an ancient battlefield of the Texas farmworkers movement, lives in poverty yet Trump won 47 per cent of the vote, an incredible gain of 28 per cent since 2016. Further up river he actually flipped 82 per cent Latino Val Verde County (Del Rio) as well as Zapata County, which no Republican has won since the end of Reconstruction.


[...]


On the other side of the ledger, there was a spectacular wave of support in South Texas for Bernie Sanders during the March ‘Super-Tuesday’ primary. After the withdrawal of San Antonio’s favourite son Julián Castro from the race at the beginning of January (he immediately endorsed Elizabeth Warren), rank-and-file tejano Democrats rallied to Sanders. With 200 young Latino organizers working full-time for his national campaign and helping shape its strategy, Sanders was able to speak to the Valley communities with a passionately informed voice. As was the case with the Nevada caucuses in February, radicalized Latino youth and their working-class families embraced his platform of universal healthcare, free public higher education, a $15 minimum wage, and pathways to citizenship for undocumented populations.


[...]


Biden’s nomination and Cuellar’s narrow victory were twin disappointments that deflated the enthusiasm of Sanders’ voters, ratifying the widespread perception that centrist Democrats give no priority to fighting for the interests of the Border working class.




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But it’s indisputable that Trump succeeded in winning over significant numbers of former Obama voters, many of them union members, in rustbelt counties that were organized by the cio in the 1930s and were for generations rock solid Democratic. This was alarming since it seemed to correspond to the electoral success that far-right populist parties in Europe have enjoyed in similarly depressed economies such as the north of England, the French Nord, Tuscany, and eastern Germany. And because so many of these Trump voters had been supporters of the first Black president, it was not obvious that they were motivated by the same kind of racism that infused the northern Wallace vote in 1968 and produced so many Reagan Democrats in 1980.


[...]


The continuing Democratic deficit relative to 2012, however, remains more a Trump vote than a Republican vote. Election returns in these counties and their core cities reveal much higher levels of support for local Democratic candidates and their pro-union positions than for Biden. In light of Clinton’s debacle he was more attentive to such places, but no better prepared to answer the question that every rank-and-file Democrat or former Democrat in the older industrial states has been asking for more than a generation: ‘What will you do to increase job opportunities and economic security here in Erie (or Laredo or Camden or Wilkes–Barre and so on)?’ ‘Millions of green energy jobs’—Biden’s mantra—is an abstraction that utterly fails to connect to the concrete circumstances of people like the locomotive builders laid off after their 2019 strike against ge in Erie or to the J. C. Penney salespeople in Brooklyn thrown out into the street in late September after Amazon drove the famed department chain into bankruptcy. A whole generation of first-in-the-family college graduates—now working as peons for Uber or delivering groceries for Amazon—are unlikely to imagine their future as solar panel installers or software technicians for an otherwise fully automated trucking company. For every ‘green power’ job created, automation and depressed demand will probably dispose of five or ten traditional jobs.


Real solutions demand geographically targeted public investment, control over capital flight and financial outflows, regional economic planning, and, above all, a massive expansion of public employment and public ownership. This is a road that few elected Democrats apart from the open socialists in the ‘Squad’ are prepared to go down or even consider, no matter how much it corresponds to needs at the grassroots. In fairness to mainstream American liberals, however, neither the British Labour Party nor the big continental social-democratic parties have found the will to forcefully address similar questions of regional economic decline and high, structurally consolidated levels of youth un- and under-employment.



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If Reagan came to power aligned with a historic anti-union offensive led by the Business Roundtable—a coalition of Fortune 500 corporations—Trump came to the White House thanks to the love of Jesus and a motley crew of what Sam Farber refers to as ‘lumpen capitalists.’


In addition to family dynasties, mainly based on oil wealth like the Kochs, who have been around since the days of Goldwater and the John Birch Society, Trump’s key allies are post-industrial robber barons from hinterland places like Grand Rapids, Wichita, Little Rock and Tulsa, whose fortunes derive from real estate, private equity, casinos, and services ranging from private armies to chain usury.


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But suburbs are no longer the big story, at least from the standpoint of geographers and political sociologists. ‘Despite the common perception that the us has become a “suburban nation”’, write Laura Taylor and Patrick Hurley, ‘exurbia has emerged as the dominant settlement pattern across the country, characterized by different patterns of development and lifestyle expectations from cities, towns, and suburbs, with houses in scenic, natural areas on relatively large acreages.’


[...]


Since then exurbs, enabled by platform capitalism and virtual commuting, have more than tripled in population to 34 million, and Bain & Company’s Macro Trends Group projects that they will surpass the urban centre population within the next generation.


[...]


Despite syndicated columnist and sprawl aficionado David Brooks’s startling 2017 prediction that the exurbs would someday become the new ‘Democratic heartland’, the opposite seems to be the case. Although there are some solidly blue exurbs—for instance, Buncombe County (Asheville), nc and Mendocino County, ca—they remain exceptional. Trump won the exurban vote (222 counties) by a whopping 17 per cent in 2016, a majority that Biden is unlikely to have eroded.




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55 million may be a decent approximation of the hardcore component of his 73 million votes.footnote29 But who are the other 18 million Trump voters, the ‘softcore’ who annulled a Democratic landslide? A Pew survey of registered voters conducted in the second week of October revealed that the top issue was the economy (35 per cent), followed by racial inequality (20 per cent), the pandemic (17 per cent), crime and safety (11 per cent) and the Affordable Care Act (11 per cent).


[...]


presenting Biden as the authentic jobs candidate who would revive the economy through an aggressive national plan to contain the pandemic and ensure safe working conditions by a full use of federal power to produce ppe and ratchet up workplace inspections. He was given multiple opportunities to take the offensive and win the jobs vote. The first was in April and May when tens of thousands of healthcare and Amazon workers went into the streets to protest dangerous working conditions. Both Sanders and Warren cheered the strikes and offered supportive legislation, but Biden remained silent in his basement in Delaware. After maskless Memorial Day celebrations egged on by Trump stoked infections to record levels, he had an opportunity to steal the Republicans’ pants and launch an ad campaign about the White House’s threat to the recovery. He didn’t.


[...]


Most importantly, the debates on the stimulus bills should have unleashed grassroots actions by unions and community organizations in support of the Democratic proposals. Instead Pelosi locked progressives out of the discussion and conducted private negotiations with Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin. By October millions of people were desperately waiting for a new relief package to pay rents, mortgages and doctors’ bills, but Pelosi refused to accept the $2 trillion package offered at the last minute by the White House


[...]


This would have given both Biden and Democratic Senate candidates powerful ammunition to use in the final exchange of fire. Instead Pelosi and the leadership ‘took a gamble and assumed that failed negotiations would further hobble the Republicans at the polls and doom Trump’s reelection prospects, even if it meant risking no deal at all. This left millions in the lurch, exposed their own cynicism, and ultimately allowed Trump to feign more interest in providing economic relief than the Democrats.’footnote30 Millions of worried voters as a result were presented with a zero-sum choice that should never have been necessary.


[...]


Galston, of course, doesn’t factor in the future of economic growth or the scenario of a stagnant economy with high levels of structural unemployment and poverty—a nightmare that weighed heavily upon the minds of millions of voters in early November and, as I have suggested, motivated many of them to hold their noses and cast ballots for Trump


mila kunis has issued a correction as of 17:20 on Dec 3, 2020

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Lansdowne posted:

replace the entire text of the green new deal with a paragraph about creating an expeditionary force to find and destroy the hidden phylacteries of democrat leadership
not the entire text, keep the part with the jobs guarantee

we need as many anti-lich crusaders as we can get

How!
Oct 29, 2009

Nichael posted:

$800 can't possibly last long in Los Angeles, even if the pittance that it is should've been given to more than 4k people

800 would cover about one third of my rent! Glad I don’t bartend anymore. Good thing entertainment workers are now deemed essential!

something something bread and circuses but never mind the bread.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

https://twitter.com/Chasten/status/1334531374607441929

look at this loving ghoul. business owner says gov should have given people money to stay home and this is his response.

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the future of the Democrat Party, everyone!

Taintrunner has issued a correction as of 17:35 on Dec 3, 2020

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