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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

NotJustANumber99 posted:

What is the relevance of 4am on the 5th? Like one dude's particular plane is due then? I hope its early.

Keeping an eye on Flightradar24 to see if any planes are coming in from Little St. James

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Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

What is the relevance of 4am on the 5th? Like one dude's particular plane is due then? I hope its early.

probably the opposite. that it's easiest to have rules changes take effect at around a time there are no arrivals

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/labour-purges-veteran-israeli-anti-zionist-moshe-machover

quote:

The veteran Israeli anti-Zionist and socialist revealed to The Electronic Intifada on Thursday that he has now been suspended.

Machover is refusing to engage with Labour’s disciplinary process, describing a 20-page letter from the party as a series of “inquisitorial questions,” “full of lies” and “full of poo poo.”

In the letter, emailed to him on Tuesday, party bureaucrats gave him less than a week to respond to what Machover calls an inquisition of his political views.

etc etc etc

Note on redactions: The redactions in black in the PDF below are applied by The Electronic Intifada to protect Machover’s email address. All other redactions were made by Machover himself to protect the private details of others.

He explains: “They are individuals with whom the inquisitors apparently wish to insinuate that I am associated, and guilty by virtue of this association. One of them, whose name is redacted as xxxx, is known to me as a political adversary, against whose views I have publicly polemicised. The other, whose name is redacted as yyyy, is totally unknown to me.”

(Embedded letter follows)

etc etc


Embedded in the link is a copy of the letter sent by the Labour Party to Machover which he is supposed to address the 'evidence'. I'm quite genuinely shocked.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/labour-purges-veteran-israeli-anti-zionist-moshe-machover


Embedded in the link is a copy of the letter sent by the Labour Party to Machover which he is supposed to address the 'evidence'. I'm quite genuinely shocked.

https://twitter.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1334480600946929667

Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi too.

Purple Prince
Aug 20, 2011

happyhippy posted:

Sneaksie way to get all the rich ex-pats back in before the wall goes up.

As a less-than-wealthy expat, gently caress this. The changes to finances in the UK post Brexit make it uncertain whether I will even have access to my savings without getting a British person to do my banking for me post-Brexit, to the point I’m tempted to move my money out of the UK and into a foreign GBP bank account.

As for returning, imagine I’m Elsa in Frozen singing “I’m never going back / The past is in the past”.

E: a real victory for Global Britain as I know a ton of professionals both young and old leaving the UK specifically because of Brexit.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

I haven't seen a link to an actual story posted, so for the sake of anyone who wants a source but is too lazy to google: https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/labour-suspends-senior-jvl-official-after-deeply-unpleasant-meeting-1.509331

And yeah, it's as crybaby-tastic as you'd expect. loving Starmer supporters. What a bunch of cunts.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

NotJustANumber99 posted:

What is the relevance of 4am on the 5th? Like one dude's particular plane is due then? I hope its early.

I'm 100% confident it's related to a specific flight, probably not one on 4AM of the 5th but it's making a buffer for something in the gentlemanly hours of like ~10PM of the 4th and it's probably landing at a semi-privatised airfield in Kent or something.

Extremely grim that an old socialist lady with a record of being ahead-of-her-time and broadly based has been suspended from the Labour Party. Grimmer as gently caress is that she's being suspended for being an anti-semite nazi despite, and I don't wanna harp on this her suspension would be disgusting regardless of ethnic background, but even a jewish woman that is a long-term senior member of Jewish Voice for Labour has been suspended for -

“The idea – and I have to mention it – the idea that Jewish people require for their comfort that whole swathes of subjects should not be debated by the membership of this party is insulting to Jewish people."

the most gentle pro-free speech, most gentle possible pushback against establishment wokescold bad acting imaginable, from someone that isn't only intellectually correct but also has the most profound loving idpol credentials, and she still gets suspended for bigotly hating herself, presumably? Even though that statement objectively shows a massive amount of moral confidence and self-respect? Oh I guess she must be one of those bad jews that need removing thanks still-somehow-in-post Evans.

There's a certain point, we've reached it already, when the concept that Novara Media and Owen Jones and all these other bellends are saying of 'oh the antisemitism charges aren't just factional fictions we could for sure of handled it all better' is just incoherent and lying. The left were smeared as anti-semites, it was never true, and now even free speech about this massive lie being a massive constructed lie is banned too this is actually Stalinesque.

How do you freeze peach cunts possibly justify Naomi getting suspended and CLP/broader members not being allowed to complain about or even formally talk about it?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

NotJustANumber99 posted:

What is the relevance of 4am on the 5th? Like one dude's particular plane is due then? I hope its early.

I think all these quarantine/flying restrictions have been brought in at 4am on a Saturday morning. I know when I went to France in August, the day I was flying out they announced returners from France would have to quarantine if they arrived back after 4am on the Saturday morning leading to mad scrambles of those who didn't want to do quarantine on return - and subsequent short notice country-based quarantines have been the same. Maybe it's a time when the fewest planes arrive at Heathrow etc?

Or maybe the bug sleeps until 4am and then gets up?

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Dec 4, 2020

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/davies_will/status/1334514054963007493?s=21

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Am I reading that right? Labour just suspended two Jewish members for antisemitism.

What even is a words?

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Am I reading that right? Labour just suspended two Jewish members for antisemitism.

What even is a words?

You are correct, and I'm 99% sure it's not the first time they've done it.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Suspending Left wing Jews for antisemitism is a bit on the nose isn't it.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Gonzo McFee posted:

on the nose

Is this some kind of joke? SUSPENDED

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Am I reading that right? Labour just suspended two Jewish members for antisemitism.

What even is a words?

Moshé Machover is described as an Israel-born anti-Zionist, which is wording that suggests to me that he isn't Jewish as such

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

kingturnip posted:

Moshé Machover is described as an Israel-born anti-Zionist, which is wording that suggests to me that he isn't Jewish as such

Wikipedia posted:

Moshé Machover (Hebrew: משה מחובר‎; born 1936) is a mathematician, philosopher, and socialist activist, noted for his writings against Zionism. Born to a Jewish family in Tel Aviv, then part of the British Mandate of Palestine, Machover moved to Britain in 1968 where he became a naturalised citizen.


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Embedded in the link is a copy of the letter sent by the Labour Party to Machover which he is supposed to address the 'evidence'. I'm quite genuinely shocked.

Yeah, that is shocking and creepy as gently caress. It's blatantly a campaign to push Jewish people with inconvenient beliefs out of the party. loving Starmer, what a shitstain.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
It's really obvious we need a new party. Labour is done. But I get that any plans for a new party would take time. Hopefully the wheels are at least in motion.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Good poll or best poll?

https://twitter.com/BareLeft/status/1334587404276162568?s=20

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

labour is always going to struggle on the economy. the other positions are held by too small a proportion to be significant. only real takeaway for starmer will be the positive news about brexit and a/s positions

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Regarde Aduck posted:

It's really obvious we need a new party. Labour is done. But I get that any plans for a new party would take time. Hopefully the wheels are at least in motion.

Depends on how you feel about Britain

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


i wish the tories weren't so good at managing the economy :(

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
i really think a lot of that is down to so many people equating being good at business with acting like a total oval office to people

speaking of which https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55171974 lol the worst part is this big spoilt babby man wasn't even DUP - he's from the mainstream/"moderate" unionist party in NI :cripes:

crispix fucked around with this message at 10:20 on Dec 4, 2020

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
Sure it’s bad, but just think how much worse it could have been if Corbyn had got into no 10 and started just handing out public money while failing to negotiate a brexit deal

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Who is that poll of? If it's died in the wool Tory retirees saying they don't trust labpur because... the economy it's useless info, those aren't people you are getting to vote for you regardless.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
With reference to that Helen Pidd tweet about the eternally racist Northern brain that craves seeing people deported, it turns out the Tory minister responsible for all the deportations is the least popular minister in the red wall seats by some margin.

https://twitter.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1334561026658996226?s=20

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

kingturnip posted:

Moshé Machover is described as an Israel-born anti-Zionist, which is wording that suggests to me that he isn't Jewish as such
There are a whole bunch of people who are "isn't Jewish as such" who would be absolutely hosed if antisemites came to power and so get to have opinions on Israeliness, Judaism, and Jewishness without being antisemitic.

Like I accept that we will forever argue over who is and isn't in that category, but I don't accept a position where Keith Stalin would get to call Primo Levi an antisemite because he ate salami and took the piss out of religious orthodoxy.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/DefendWindrush/status/1334604857005764609?s=19

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Is he worried about them taking jobs from the hard working English pedophiles?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

There are a whole bunch of people who are "isn't Jewish as such" who would be absolutely hosed if antisemites came to power and so get to have opinions on Israeliness, Judaism, and Jewishness without being antisemitic.

Like I accept that we will forever argue over who is and isn't in that category, but I don't accept a position where Keith Stalin would get to call Primo Levi an antisemite because he ate salami and took the piss out of religious orthodoxy.

I wonder how much overlap there is between people who claim they can define who is and isn't Jewish and people who claim they can define who's male and who's female? I'm guessing it's pretty close to 100%.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I wonder how much overlap there is between people who claim they can define who is and isn't Jewish and people who claim they can define who's male and who's female? I'm guessing it's pretty close to 100%.

"We can always tell" :rolleyes:

Purple Prince posted:

As a less-than-wealthy expat, gently caress this. The changes to finances in the UK post Brexit make it uncertain whether I will even have access to my savings without getting a British person to do my banking for me post-Brexit, to the point I’m tempted to move my money out of the UK and into a foreign GBP bank account.

As for returning, imagine I’m Elsa in Frozen singing “I’m never going back / The past is in the past”.

E: a real victory for Global Britain as I know a ton of professionals both young and old leaving the UK specifically because of Brexit.

My Co-op account is going bye-bye on the 31st. Not sure about the others yet. Woohoo Brexit!

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

peanut- posted:

With reference to that Helen Pidd tweet about the eternally racist Northern brain that craves seeing people deported, it turns out the Tory minister responsible for all the deportations is the least popular minister in the red wall seats by some margin.

https://twitter.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1334561026658996226?s=20
oh boy, election 2024 is going to be spicy for a Starmer vs Sunak faceoff, assuming Sunak manages to maintain his Dishy Rishi credentials

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

peanut- posted:

With reference to that Helen Pidd tweet about the eternally racist Northern brain
Now I can't stop thinking about "The eternal racism of the Northern Mind."


Soricidus posted:

Sure it’s bad, but just think how much worse it could have been if Corbyn had got into no 10 and started just handing out public money while failing to negotiate a brexit deal
And all the Stalinist purges, especially the Jewish people he doesn't like. Imagine!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

CGI Stardust posted:

oh boy, election 2024 is going to be spicy for a Starmer vs Sunak faceoff, assuming Sunak manages to maintain his Dishy Rishi credentials

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1334798001785724929?s=19

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Nothingtoseehere posted:

Who is that poll of? If it's died in the wool Tory retirees saying they don't trust labpur because... the economy it's useless info, those aren't people you are getting to vote for you regardless.

It was just posted because I thought it was funny that Keir has such a strong negatives compared to antisemitism

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lol at everyone who praised the big centrist hope for the future

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1334801988480086016?s=19

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009

I refuse to believe even the most statto Tory members could pick Ben Wallace or George Eustice out of a lineup

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
PM Truss would be incredible. but i'm delighted to see Raab providing top-4 representation for the himbo demographic; if he promises to get back on the weights and karate then wear a tank top and short shorts to all events he's certainly got my vote

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Jose posted:

Lol at everyone who praised the big centrist hope for the future

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1334801988480086016?s=19

Don't France do this every time a summit is about to happen.


Also

https://twitter.com/deanvannguyen/status/942736571438116864

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Jose posted:

Lol at everyone who praised the big centrist hope for the future

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1334801988480086016?s=19

It's pretty funny in fairness

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

the sex ghost posted:

I refuse to believe even the most statto Tory members could pick Ben Wallace or George Eustice out of a lineup

That's really easy to do. So long as Courage the Cowardly Dog is also in the picture.

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Guavanaut posted:

Is he worried about them taking jobs from the hard working English pedophiles?

from the look of him, yes

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