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Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

smoobles posted:

Man we are fuuuuuucked. 100,000 people will die this month. Merry Christmas!
i wish i had your optimism

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Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

People who just have to go on vacations this year are seriously terrible. Save your goddamn money for once and go somewhere even better next year. Just extreme selfishness.

I grabbed a campsite for a half week from Sunday-Thurs since Fri-Sun are always taken this past summer. My wife HATES camping so it was just me.

Generally when I go camping it's with about a dozen friends and we're all just ready to go home after two days because we're so hung over and sick of each others antics. I thought I would probably just be coming back home after two nights because I'd be so loving bored being alone.

It was one of the most relaxing and almost meditative experiences I've ever had. I wanted to stay another week.

I had one cooler full of ice, 3-4 cans of Slice, 3-4 cans of Ginger Beer, some limes, lime juice, oranges, jarred cherries. A bottle of brandy and a bottle of vodka. And a tumbler glass. I could make Old Fashioneds and Moscow Mules at will. Bought some steaks, pre-sliced potatoes in tinfoil w/ cheese n butter, got some burger patties n buns, hot dogs n buns, bunch of eggs n sausages. Portable hammock that can tie between two trees, a few books, some sketchbooks, and $50 worth of firewood that I made huge bonfires with every night drunk off my rear end.

It was awesome. Yeah, I sorta missed my wife and friends, but man.. I didn't want to leave. Gunna make it a thing to do at least once a year now. Solitude is the best. No news. No covid. No nothin' but good food, good books, good booze, and a bonfire.

Anyways, what I'm saying is. Take that vacation, but leave everyone at home.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Philthy posted:

I don't know the logistics of this, but we all aren't relying on Pfizer to do all the heavy lifting are we? Can't the government(s) set up production labs everywhere and pump these fuckers out day and night and distribute them all themselves?

Somebody (WHO?) got a bunch of money and they've already broken ground on a new vaccine factory/production lab in... India? To do ~5 billion doses/year of vaccines a year as a sort of global backup facility for the next time covid happens, it'll make flu vaccines in the off years

I dunno how you ship fifty million liters of vaccine out of that facility, but it's a start

In the US, the vaccine distribution is being handled almost entirely by the Army logistics arm, with a handful of token citizen leaders who seem to mostly exist as impartial observers; also probably because vaccines are a top national security for a functioning military

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

I suppose the silver lining is that they're actually testing their reagents and not just YOLOing it

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

smoobles posted:

Man we are fuuuuuucked. 100,000 people will die this month. Merry Christmas!

It'll probably be more tbh, hospitals were already on the brink of collapse even before the Thanksgiving super spreader event

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high

Picnic Princess posted:

Yep, Alberta. Every day I feel better about staying isolated. Loving my hermit life right now.

Jason Kenney is one of the absolute worst pieces of poo poo in politics but because he has power over a relatively small number of people, he's not really known for it outside of Canada.

Jason Kenney is essentially Mitch McConnell for our American folks playing at home

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Philthy posted:

I grabbed a campsite for a half week from Sunday-Thurs since Fri-Sun are always taken this past summer. My wife HATES camping so it was just me.

Generally when I go camping it's with about a dozen friends and we're all just ready to go home after two days because we're so hung over and sick of each others antics. I thought I would probably just be coming back home after two nights because I'd be so loving bored being alone.

It was one of the most relaxing and almost meditative experiences I've ever had. I wanted to stay another week.

I had one cooler full of ice, 3-4 cans of Slice, 3-4 cans of Ginger Beer, some limes, lime juice, oranges, jarred cherries. A bottle of brandy and a bottle of vodka. And a tumbler glass. I could make Old Fashioneds and Moscow Mules at will. Bought some steaks, pre-sliced potatoes in tinfoil w/ cheese n butter, got some burger patties n buns, hot dogs n buns, bunch of eggs n sausages. Portable hammock that can tie between two trees, a few books, some sketchbooks, and $50 worth of firewood that I made huge bonfires with every night drunk off my rear end.

It was awesome. Yeah, I sorta missed my wife and friends, but man.. I didn't want to leave. Gunna make it a thing to do at least once a year now. Solitude is the best. No news. No covid. No nothin' but good food, good books, good booze, and a bonfire.

Anyways, what I'm saying is. Take that vacation, but leave everyone at home.

Dang that sounds nice. Hammocks are the best.

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

People who just have to go on vacations this year are seriously terrible. Save your goddamn money for once and go somewhere even better next year. Just extreme selfishness.

Yeah, I really don't get. I'm single and live well below my means just so I can travel a few times a year, and I haven't even been tempted. Even if I felt ok boarding a plane (I don't), there are very few places I would be ok with meeting new people, going sight seeing, and going to bars/restaurants.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Picnic Princess posted:

Okay so

We're at 1800 new cases a day and it keeps climbing.

1 in 250 people currently have the virus.

1 in 70 have tested positive since the beginning of March.

They claim the data shows most transmission comes from in-home gatherings so that's banned and almost all business are allowed to still be open.

Then they go and say 82% of cases had unidentifiable sources. A couple weeks ago that percentage was 63%.

They claim we'll have a significant drop in another week due to banning in-home gatherings, but if they don't know how the vast majority of infections were spread, will we?

I mean, if it does, cool. But I'm not so sure you have the best data set to be working from.

Yeah, it sucks that indoor gatherings are straight out banned instead of limited, all while retail, restaurants, bars and casinos remain open. And the whole “25%” max capacity means there’s no longer people checking the door. Fire code limits are huge in places like stores and they rarely reach 25% on even the busiest days. It seems like it’s a “restriction” when it’s really not one at all.

I’m glad there’s an exemption for childcare though, so I was able to have my mom come over today to watch the baby while I went to an ultrasound appointment and my husband worked from home. He had a lot of meetings and couldn’t look after our 7 week old. Grandma was happy for any time she could spend with her grand baby. Due to Covid, none of my extended family has met the baby (nor even my dad or sister) and most of them didn’t get to see me for my entire pregnancy. I don’t know if my 93 year old Oma will even get to live long enough to meet her only great granddaughter. :(

Apparently, some areas of rural Alberta have mask orders now and people are pissed about it. Small towns are filled with aggressive anti-maskers talking about getting their guns and shooting anyone who tries to tell them to wear a mask. :/

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme
The sibling of someone I know came home from college for Thanksgiving. Guess what the sibling brought with them besides homework? :thumbsup:

Meanwhile, in my state,

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compshateme85
Jan 28, 2009

Oh you like racoons? Name three of their songs. You dope.
Bay Area has 2000 of those deaths, which is 10%, while having almost 20% of the population of California. So I guess that's good? Although given that wfh here super possible for a ton of people, it's still really bad.

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


It's the same stupid pattern over and over again.

"Let's have a family get-together, well even social distance, promise!"

"Your mom is dead, how could this have happened.?"

Sarah Cenia
Apr 2, 2008

Laying in the forest, by the water
Underneath these ferns
You'll never find me
My coworker is really excited to go to church on Sunday, because he's missed it the last two times. But they stand six feet apart in there!
Nice knowing you, dudes.

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

compshateme85 posted:

Bay Area has 2000 of those deaths, which is 10%, while having almost 20% of the population of California. So I guess that's good? Although given that wfh here super possible for a ton of people, it's still really bad.
now look at the demographics breakdown of those deaths

compshateme85
Jan 28, 2009

Oh you like racoons? Name three of their songs. You dope.

Stunt_enby posted:

now look at the demographics breakdown of those deaths

I can't find breakdowns by race and age, just one or the other. 60% are over the age of 70. Earlier in the year it was mostly minorities getting covid, now it's more white people. If you have a better place to look at stats for the bay area as a whole I would love to see them.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Nessa posted:


Apparently, some areas of rural Alberta have mask orders now and people are pissed about it. Small towns are filled with aggressive anti-maskers talking about getting their guns and shooting anyone who tries to tell them to wear a mask. :/

My father-in-law is thankfully the opposite. He started stockpiling supplies back in January before it really even hit the news. He spent a lot of his life overseas and understands that diseases are real and need to be taken seriously. He also stockpiled ammunition and extra guns, but that was in case society collapsed and people tried to raid his property. He's stayed super isolated and has stuff delivered to a local post office where he goes once a week to pick it up and sanitizes it all when he gets home. He's been highly pro-mask and pro-lockdown from the very beginning and never changed his mind. He's been nothing but disappointed by his peers and neighbours who think it's overblown or a conspiracy.

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

compshateme85 posted:

I can't find breakdowns by race and age, just one or the other. 60% are over the age of 70. Earlier in the year it was mostly minorities getting covid, now it's more white people. If you have a better place to look at stats for the bay area as a whole I would love to see them.
as a whole, not sure, tbh that was just half-remembered from looking at CASE numbers not deaths for santa clara county and i haven't been keeping up with poo poo for months but
https://www.sccgov.org/sites/covid19/Pages/dashboard-demographics-of-cases-and-deaths.aspx
the loving racial disparities in cases (and in death rates for cases too!!!)
but yeah it doesn't have breakdown by both

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Picnic Princess posted:

He also stockpiled ammunition and extra guns, but that was in case society collapsed and people tried to raid his property.

lmao. Sounds like the usual broke-brained American.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Well my dumb state just went back over 10,000 cases a day

AKZ
Nov 5, 2009

Fame Douglas posted:

lmao. Sounds like the usual broke-brained American.

Are you lost again?

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Dummy Americans wasting money on guns and ammo to fantasize about shooting their neighbors (not realizing you can do that for free) is a well-worn cliché and never gets old to laugh at.

It's a country of people that don't know how to spend their money on actually useful things.

AKZ
Nov 5, 2009

Fame Douglas posted:

useful things

Like?

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Not guns & ammo. I'm sure you can imagine things that are useful in your life if you don't plan on shooting your neighbors.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006


Anime and drugs

hydrocarbonenema
Mar 4, 2017

Fun Shoe

gay picnic defence posted:

I suppose the silver lining is that they're actually testing their reagents and not just YOLOing it

Have you guys read “End of the Whole Mess” by Stephen King. Great story. Could be pertinent.

AKZ
Nov 5, 2009

Bape Culture posted:

Anime and drugs

At least this guy has some suggestions.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

WaffleZombie posted:

A fun reminder: most of the people who caught COVID at their absolutely necessary Thanksgiving dinners last week are likely in the "contagious but not yet symptomatic" phase right now. So maybe push that grocery store trip out a couple of days if you were planning one for this weekend.

My grandma guilted my mom into offering to take her to the grocery store and to Costco tomorrow morning because grandma can't handle driving on the interstate.

Grandma is gonna catch covid and maybe I'll lose both my remaining grandparents in a year. Cool, cool, cool...

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

AKZ posted:

At least this guy has some suggestions.

Those are way more useful than doing the stereotypical American thing. But lol @ being so devoid of imagination as to be unable to imagine anything more useful than something totally useless to the current situation (guns & ammo)

indiscriminately
Jan 19, 2007

Fame Douglas posted:

Dummy Americans wasting money on guns and ammo to fantasize about shooting their neighbors (not realizing you can do that for free) is a well-worn cliché and never gets old to laugh at.

It's a country of people that don't know how to spend their money on actually useful things.

Fame Douglas posted:

Those are way more useful than doing the stereotypical American thing. But lol @ being so devoid of imagination as to be unable to imagine anything more useful than something totally useless to the current situation.

It's just not a healthy or decent way to be musing about things, to be considering in your mind a large country's worth of people and finding them all to be ridiculous and contemptible.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

indiscriminately posted:

It's just not a healthy or decent way to be musing about things, to be considering in your mind a large country's worth of people and finding them all to be ridiculous and contemptible.

Spare me the misguided therapy session. I'm just describing reality.

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Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

hydrocarbonenema posted:

Have you guys read “End of the Whole Mess” by Stephen King. Great story. Could be pertinent.

Ooh that is a good story.

rotinaj posted:

My grandma guilted my mom into offering to take her to the grocery store and to Costco tomorrow morning because grandma can't handle driving on the interstate.

Grandma is gonna catch covid and maybe I'll lose both my remaining grandparents in a year. Cool, cool, cool...

Costco has senior shopping hours M-F 9am to 10am. Wouldn’t recommend Saturday even during non-pandemic times.

indiscriminately
Jan 19, 2007

Fame Douglas posted:

Spare me the misguided therapy session. I'm just describing reality.

It's not intended to be therapy, I'm reporting to you that I don't agree with these observations. People can fall into a gloomy frame of mind where they no longer realize that their gloomy thoughts are straying outside the gloomy norm, and that other people find them off-putting. It's a heads-up I guess.

bigperm
Jul 10, 2001
some obscure reference

Redgrendel2001 posted:

I suspect something along the lines of this.
https://inhabitat.com/spray-bottle-turns-tap-water-into-99-9-effective-disenfectant/

edit: no idea if it's bullshit tech or not.

It isn't!

Let Big Clive explain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5kcER2Z4-8

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I keep a fake gun as a deterrent, but I also wouldn't feel bad as using it as a blunt weapon against the desperate if I had to, either.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

indiscriminately posted:

It's just not a healthy or decent way to be musing about things, to be considering in your mind a large country's worth of people and finding them all to be ridiculous and contemptible.

have you been reading any posts in this thread at all

JonathonSpectre
Jul 23, 2003

I replaced the Shermatar and text with this because I don't wanna see racial slurs every time you post what the fuck

Soiled Meat

hydrocarbonenema posted:

Have you guys read “End of the Whole Mess” by Stephen King. Great story. Could be pertinent.

I remain somewhat hopeful that the surprise long-term effect of this thing will be sterility instead of Alzheimer's.

1% fatality rate individually... 100% as a species. Make it so, Number One.

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]
imagine a future where only anti-vaxxers can have kids

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Nessa posted:

Yeah, it sucks that indoor gatherings are straight out banned instead of limited, all while retail, restaurants, bars and casinos remain open. And the whole “25%” max capacity means there’s no longer people checking the door. Fire code limits are huge in places like stores and they rarely reach 25% on even the busiest days. It seems like it’s a “restriction” when it’s really not one at all.

Restricted numbers based on fire codes are absolutely bullshit. Here in Australia they based restrictions on seating capacity or square footage (usually one person per 2 sq metres, sometimes one person per 4 sq metres). It wasn't a perfect system and I'm sure people still tried to game the system but it was an actual attempt.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Lol he's not American.

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JonathonSpectre
Jul 23, 2003

I replaced the Shermatar and text with this because I don't wanna see racial slurs every time you post what the fuck

Soiled Meat

OMFG FURRY posted:

imagine a future where only anti-vaxxers can have kids

Oh poo poo sorry I meant the virus causing it, not the vaccine.

Some people won't get the vaccine, but everyone will eventually get the virus.

It's the only way to reach 100%. The only way to be sure.

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