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| BAKER VS TOO LEGIT |
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69428 | 99.80% |
| TEAM TAZ VS DARBY CODY |
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6 | 0.01% |
| BATTLE ROYAL |
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37 | 0.05% |
| KENNY VS MOX |
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99 | 0.14% |
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They should do a crossover with a company on IWTV so that they can get enough money to build a better video player and maybe a functioning app.
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Dec 4, 2020 23:48
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rantmo posted:They should do a crossover with a company so that they can get enough money to build a better video player and maybe a functioning app. they are partnering with impact
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Dec 4, 2020 23:51
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AEW is looking like an incredible demo investment for TNT
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Dec 5, 2020 00:04
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.28 for the 18-49 women demo seems really good?
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Dec 5, 2020 00:06
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Orange Carlisle posted:AEW is looking like an incredible demo investment for TNT The original ratings expectation was 500K, which they've never dipped below
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Dec 5, 2020 00:10
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The original ratings expectation was 500K, which they've never dipped below Even that Late Night show they did passed 500k. How many more viewers does Dynamite get that ratings don't cover? Like DVR, cable cutters watching online, that sort of thing. Are there estimates floating around?
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Dec 5, 2020 00:14
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Orange Carlisle posted:AEW is looking like an incredible demo investment for TNT And boy howdy are they gonna have to pay up in a few years.
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Dec 5, 2020 00:21
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xbilkis posted:I still kinda hope the Moxley attack is something Kenny legit had nothing to do with. Letting people jump to conclusions about the Impact stuff only for Omega to go "No seriously, I dunno who did that but it wasn't me" is a fun story if you can make the actual reveal satisfying AEW now has access to Hornswoggle, the ultimate answer to wrestling mysteries.
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Dec 5, 2020 00:23
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I think the fact that State Farm is a presenting sponsor now is also big deal. WWE wishes they could get that kind of sponsor instead of energy drinks and candy bars.
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Dec 5, 2020 00:28
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MJeff posted:And boy howdy are they gonna have to pay up in a few years. That's why TNT went so quickly for a multi year deal, wasn't it? Lock them in at a reasonable rate now.
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Dec 5, 2020 00:35
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Lamuella posted:That's why TNT went so quickly for a multi year deal, wasn't it? Lock them in at a reasonable rate now. Absolutely. I don't know exactly how long that first deal was, but Warner knew if they waited until the first deal (which was just production costs and an ad revenue split) expired, at best, it would cost them more money and at worst, they'd lose AEW to another network. Then the pandemic came along and it's a good thing they re-upped when they did. It's been mutually beneficial for everybody, the deal let AEW bring in additional talent and keep the lights on with no crowds and it's been a great investment for TNT. Unless the ceiling caves in and there's no reason to think it will at this point, they'll definitely pick up the 4th year option and then AEW will almost definitely have additional suitors when it expires. They're gonna make some bank in 2024.
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Dec 5, 2020 00:46
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MJeff posted:And boy howdy are they gonna have to pay up in a few years. Yeah it's gonna be one of the only things outside of the big 3 sports that will still draw young people to cable. BBT can pretty much name any price he wants.
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Dec 5, 2020 00:46
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I figure it’s only a matter of time before AEW programming moves over to HBO Max, especially if linear cable starts to sunset.
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Dec 5, 2020 00:49
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:I figure it’s only a matter of time before AEW programming moves over to HBO Max, especially if linear cable starts to sunset. I feel like we've been waiting for the TV bubble to pop for a while and it still hasn't happened. I think moving Dynamite replays to HBO Max would be a great idea, but. Warner views AEW as a sport product and Bleacher Report is their sports division, I guess? They might not wanna take something from one of their own other wings, although HBO Max is what's getting the big push right now, not BR Live. PPVs, I'm of two minds on. I think AEW PPVs would be a great addition to HBO Max, but it's the ol' WWE Network problem where you start to devalue your PPVs. And Warner doesn't seem to want to do that "pay for your subscription, then pay 30 more bucks to see this" crap that Disney did for Mulan, all of their movies are gonna be explicitly, same-day release, no extra charge beyond the subscription cost.
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Dec 5, 2020 00:55
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Yeah, home media’s in a weird place, I have a friend in my college friend slack who works for HBO and they’re definitely all in on HBO Max, there are also just waves of layoffs and reorganizing within WarnerMedia and i get the vibe that stuff is changing constantly right now. I do think PPVs stay on BR Live as long as Warner Media supports it. I can definitely see non-Dynamite stuff eventually showing up on Max.
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Dec 5, 2020 00:58
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I challenge the 69421 who voted Britt/Legit to T'Kal-in-ket
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Dec 5, 2020 01:31
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MJeff posted:I feel like we've been waiting for the TV bubble to pop for a while and it still hasn't happened. I think moving Dynamite replays to HBO Max would be a great idea, but. Warner views AEW as a sport product and Bleacher Report is their sports division, I guess? They might not wanna take something from one of their own other wings, although HBO Max is what's getting the big push right now, not BR Live. Dave's been hinting on WOR and in the Observer that media companies should be looking at buying leagues or sports properties and I can see that happening to both boost TV ratings/buffer against cord cutting and make the money on streaming. Not sure if it'll actually shake out that way but it'd be super funny if TNT tried to make a play to buy AEW
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Dec 5, 2020 01:47
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That's what Ted Turner did when he bought JCP
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Dec 5, 2020 01:49
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:I figure it’s only a matter of time before AEW programming moves over to HBO Max, especially if linear cable starts to sunset. I really hope that this doesn’t happen because I can’t/don’t want to pay for another streaming service.
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Dec 5, 2020 01:50
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Astro7x posted:Is that Dustin and Terri's kid? Yeah, the one Lawler made a super inappropriate joke about when she was like 5 calling her "the village bicycle" or whatever. Also, Mox was clearly attacked by Crazzy Steve.
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Dec 5, 2020 01:54
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Imagine the pop when Sting makes an entrance with a full, live crowd again. If his debut on Wednesday was in front of a full crowd I think the building would have imploded.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:04
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AEW doing the occasional HBO Max Special would be pretty cool, but moving PPVs there is not the way to go.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:04
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Don't do this.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:18
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I Before E posted:AEW doing the occasional HBO Max Special would be pretty cool, but moving PPVs there is not the way to go. I would appreciate simulcasts for ppvs on HBO Max so I could stop paying for ppvs.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:19
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Seems like a terrible business idea
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Dec 5, 2020 02:21
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I'd love for the PPVs to be simulcast or replays on HBO Max because... you know... I'm broke. But isn't that kind of the mistake WWE made? And AEW PPVs probably wouldn't be a meaningful draw for HBO Max. So doesn't seem like a viable idea.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:22
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NienNunb posted:Seems like a terrible business idea Seeing as I don't own, operate, or own stock in the company, this is thankfully not something that bothers me. I like AEW, but as long as it's making enough money to continue at its current quality, I don't give a gently caress if Tony Khan, who is already a billionaire, makes slightly less money.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:23
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Vince MechMahon posted:I would appreciate simulcasts for ppvs on HBO Max so I could stop paying for ppvs. This is exactly why I don't think they'll do it.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:24
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BBT isn't coughing up the PPV rights without a big payday
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Dec 5, 2020 02:24
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I Before E posted:This is exactly why I don't think they'll do it. Yeah but I would like if they did.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:24
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Given the money UFC makes on PPV and how much of a disaster the WWE network has been financially giving up PPV money seems like a very bad business move
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Dec 5, 2020 02:26
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Hell I’ll settle for them just not figuring out the VPN trick
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Dec 5, 2020 02:27
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When I suggested AEW programming showing up on HBO Max I was thinking along the lines of Dark II or longer form Road to/documentary content, not PPVs.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:32
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I've kinda assumed since the second show got delayed that they'd probably decided to roll it out on HBO Max instead given Covid production slowdowns are gonna put holes in their 2021 slate. Also, AEW should start making WWE Day 24/Chronical style documentaries and put them on HBO Max.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:37
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Figure out when PPV buys start to taper off. Put them on HBO Max at that point. There y'go.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:44
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I like New Japan World as much as anyone else but if you're hoping for a company that has clearly proven they can consistently move 60 dollar ppvs after their biggest market competitor massively devalued wrestling ppv to move to a monthly model that at best would break even compared to that pre-existing $60/quarter and at worst devalue their events, without having the secondary driver New Japan has in their decades long back catalog, you'll be waiting for a while.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:44
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Here's the difference between putting your PPVs on HBOMax and creating an AEW Network: If Warner offers you enough money where it is worth not doing PPVs anymore, you do it. Because you are making the same money with less risk. Yes you devalued your PPVs and probably can't go back, but you are making the money either way. You can take that minor risk that HBOMax dies a death or decides content isn't worth it to get the guaranteed money and keep building the relationship with your media partner. When WWE started the WWE Network they poured tens of millions of start up costs into it, then millions in content for the network and then devalued their PPVs on the idea that streaming was the future. Streaming probably is the future, but owning a niche streaming network isn't the future, selling your content to a big streaming network is. So WWE devalued their PPVs and now wants to sell the rights to streaming services but can't get the deal they want. (They are also probably overvaluing the rights because they still need to make back some of the Network start up costs.) AEW might get that kind of deal offered to them, you never know.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:51
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Just [REDACTED] the shows if it's that important to you that you watch it for free, it's very easy.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:51
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I can't think of something I've spent sixty dollars on in the past two years that I've gotten more out of than any of this year's AEW shows (except all out)
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Kenny should go to DDT and beat Tetsuya Endo.
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