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I usually play STS when I'm stoned as gently caress so, I consider the occasional savescum when I make a really bonedheaded move is fair play to balance out how dumb I am e: what a shameful snipe lol
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I will replay fights that I lost "for science", but then I abandon the run at the end of the fight. I get to test an alternate line, and try to figure out if I should have gone for that line with the info that I had, but I don't distort my win rate data.
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Dec 5, 2020 17:52
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Victory Position posted:I wholeheartedly disagree with this and save-scumming like this in general, as you can't pull a mulligan in real-time or by the books. How do you get better when you can rectify fate by making it work in your favor? Absolutely correct. Savescumming is the sign of a weakness.
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Dec 5, 2020 17:53
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I mean, it depends. I've definitely just clicked the wrong card to add to my deck and quit out. I don't think I cheated anyone with that.
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Dec 5, 2020 17:55
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These days I savescum when I misclick something, but when I was starting out it really did help to savescum some fights to see what I could have done differently. That and making custom runs with drafted decks really helped me getting my head around what synergies and lines worked when I just got the game and struggled with getting my head around how the game works. Actually a few easy custom runs also helped with motivation when I kept losing. I also played todays daily, after not playing watcher for a bit, and drat, I forgot how silly watcher decks often get. It was a constant stream of "OK, how do I block this big scary attack this turn.... no whait, I just kill".
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Dec 5, 2020 17:56
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Victory Position posted:Play what you're given and play until you're defeated, don't try and squirm out of it; how else do you learn how not to make poor room and card choices? very easily, imo replaying a bunch of rote gameplay between meaningful lessons does not teach you those lessons any faster. pretty much the opposite!
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Dec 5, 2020 18:04
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Yes, and a bootcamp is equivalent to a degree.
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Dec 5, 2020 18:07
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It can definitely be useful to replay or take practice runs at the same fight. Actually, I should probably do that more often; I have very little experience with Act 4 and I'd be surprised if it didn't hurt me when I was there. As long as you don't confuse a goal scored in practice with a goal scored in a real game, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
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Dec 5, 2020 18:09
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You know speaking of poo poo you forget while playing, I think it’s artifacts that bone me most frequently. Once that row takes up more than half the screen, I gotta slow down and be like oooooookay what does what again? Doubly so for artifacts that activate infrequently like nunchaku. There’s little interface things like that that I wish were a little better, esp. on console. Reviewing potions/artifacts is a little annoying on PS4.
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Dec 5, 2020 18:26
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I only really save scum if I pick the wrong boss relic. That and the one time I forgot to grab the necronomicon after taking all the damage. Usually I just prefer to die and start over.
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Dec 5, 2020 18:26
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I can finally share runs easily with the Switch update! Got the heart down to 2hp before dying but it was my first real Pandora run and now I'm not as iffy on picking it lol I kept waffling on removing Alpha but didn't and it definitely saved a few encounters for me (also Omniscience into Omega just deletes encounters).
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Dec 5, 2020 18:42
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Really the game should have an "undo" button for cards played until A) you hit End Turn or B) you invoke something that shows you information you wouldnt have, like card draw
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Dec 5, 2020 18:47
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Imagine caring if someone save scums their own game
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Dec 5, 2020 19:02
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im pretty sure that people can play this game however they want
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Dec 5, 2020 19:09
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Perhaps, the problem is with the negative implications of the word “scum” itself
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Dec 5, 2020 20:00
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Lol gatekeeprs gonna gatekeep.
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Dec 5, 2020 20:15
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You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference.
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Dec 5, 2020 21:34
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Wow Corpse Explosion is REALLY good and reminds me of how legendarily broken 'Corpse Explosion' was in the early days of Diablo 2.
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Dec 5, 2020 21:49
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I remember when XCOM added an optional modifier that changed the RNG sequence whenever you loaded a game, specifically for people who want to cheese their save, and weirdos lost their poo poo at the idea that someone they'll never meet might cheat their way through a single player game. Do whatever.
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Dec 5, 2020 22:37
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Beamed posted:Really the game should have an "undo" button for cards played until A) you hit End Turn or B) you invoke something that shows you information you wouldnt have, like card draw I just want an "undo" or "confirm" button for the major choices you make like adding cards. One misclick and I'm stuck with an intimidate over an offering FOREVER.
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Dec 5, 2020 23:18
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born on a buy you posted:You cheated not only the game, but yourself. lol
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Dec 5, 2020 23:29
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I just want an "undo" or "confirm" button for the major choices you make like adding cards. One misclick and I'm stuck with an intimidate over an offering FOREVER. The undo button is control-f4
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Dec 5, 2020 23:47
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born on a buy you posted:You cheated not only the game, but yourself. Source your quotes
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Dec 6, 2020 00:26
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i only savescum when i go all-in on something that ends up being short of lethal damage. i refuse to be shamed into doing math
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Dec 6, 2020 00:30
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born on a buy you posted:You cheated not only the game, but yourself. will not be commenting on this post. those who do are making a powerful Posting Enemy and will most likely go on to regret it
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Dec 6, 2020 00:32
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how's the whole "oh so you're lifting weights? why, to get strong? let me tell you about jrpgs" thing go again?
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Dec 6, 2020 00:42
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Yoshi Wins posted:I will replay fights that I lost "for science", but then I abandon the run at the end of the fight. I get to test an alternate line, and try to figure out if I should have gone for that line with the info that I had, but I don't distort my win rate data. Yeah, I think people are conflating "exploring multiple alternate lines of play to learn new strategies" with "counting it as an honest win." I went through the ascension ladder while save scumming to learn the entire range of options, now I'm going through with absolutely no save-scumming and these are the only runs that actually count as "victories" in my book. If I don't save scum, then I just do the course of action that seems like the highest percentage of working, and I would never, ever learn any alternate actions that I had been discounting which were actually more effective. But I'm not going to then run in here and say "omg I just beat all 20 ascensions in a row without dying I am so smrt!" Now that I've save scummed I constantly say, "oooh, here's the best play... or, wait... there were those times when I died and then found out there was a better play, can I do that play? Hmmm..." since the real joy of this game is how many options you can weigh against each other, discovering more options trumps everything for me. Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Dec 6, 2020 |
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Dec 6, 2020 01:02
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I’m glad you’ve found a way to live with yourself, OP.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:59
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Usually the thing that makes me lose happens several floors before I die, so I scum the poo poo out of anything and everything I can. I ain't giving up a dead branch because I went into wrath and didn't draw any attacks next turn, although I will analyze the "loss" and figure out where I hosed up. Usually it's pathing, followed by greedy deck building. I've already updated my preferences on the spreadsheet.
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Dec 6, 2020 02:11
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drat horror queefs posted:I usually play STS when I'm stoned as gently caress so, I consider the occasional savescum when I make a really bonedheaded move is fair play to balance out how dumb I am Same, my most common is clicking end turn before playing anything
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eleven extra elephants posted:Same, my most common is clicking end turn before playing anything The "long click" menu option helps with this, but even then I've spaced the gently caress out and long clicked a do-nothing turn a few times.
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Dec 6, 2020 02:27
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I play with a controller and will often mash A at the end of fights to speed through the "Yes, take gold. Yes, take potion. Yes, take relic" part, which often necessitates a savescum to undo "yes, take Silent discard synergy card." This actually backfires in boss fights now, because they changed it so you can't roll back card choices after you get to the boss relic screen.
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Dec 6, 2020 03:18
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When will a brave mod save scum this thread
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Dec 6, 2020 03:57
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wow look at all these herbs who "play the game sober" and "can always pick the card they meant to" and "scold people for the way they play a single player card game"
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Dec 6, 2020 06:56
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born on a buy you posted:You cheated not only the game, but yourself. lol
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Dec 6, 2020 07:01
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born on a buy you posted:You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
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Dec 6, 2020 07:21
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I am gonna savescum as much as I want in a single player game and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Dec 6, 2020 07:22
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Chairchucker posted:I am gonna savescum as much as I want in a single player game and there's nothing you can do about it. you're never going to get a degree in slay the spire with that attitude
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Dec 6, 2020 07:23
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shaking with rage, imagining any of the ascension 20 wins here could have had someone click wrong once and ruin the entire run.
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I not only don't save scum spire AND have been stuck on a17 watcher, but I also poop sock spire as well.
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