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Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Turin Turambar posted:

Thief Simulator VR is in Viveport. How is it?

Worth playing. I only did a little bit so far (got it during the steam sale with Real Fishing Sim) but it's neat.

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Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

Inacio posted:

Maybe a quest port won't be so easy after all...


what the gently caress lol a 2070S is subpar
how does that unity asset flip looking game use 160GB
jfc

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say all the 360° a/v data from the gallery is 70%+ of the total data for the game. Not sure about the GPU/CPU requirements though.

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

There's also the modern trend of not compressing the audio files (on consoles its to save cycles from the decompression but why they do it on pc who loving knows.)

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Tom Guycot posted:

The game is around 160-170GB

:eyepop:

Bloodplay it again posted:

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say all the 360° a/v data from the gallery is 70%+ of the total data for the game. Not sure about the GPU/CPU requirements though.

You're probably right, and if so they should make the gallery an optional free DLC

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


Bloodplay it again posted:

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say all the 360° a/v data from the gallery is 70%+ of the total data for the game. Not sure about the GPU/CPU requirements though.

shockingly:

quote:

10GB maybe. It's nowhere near the majority of the install.


I'll be fascinated to see what the hell is taking up all that space. I think the previous biggest VR game i can think of was Asgard's Wrath, which was like 130gb or something.

Junk
Dec 20, 2003

Listen to reason, man. Why make your job difficult?

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Lol, it really should be. I fully respect that H3VR most definitely is not a murder simulator directly and I would never accuse it as such, but if I was really gonna clutch pearls over VR gaming it'd be about the game that teaches the player how to load, charge and handle dozens of commonly-available firearms along with instilling basic cover-based combat and room-clearing tactics.

Which one is that? That sounds fun

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Anton added that absurdist single-shot .50 BMG handgun to H3VR. Shockingly, it's pretty useless in the game's combat situations. Bahaha.

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

Tom Guycot posted:

shockingly:



I'll be fascinated to see what the hell is taking up all that space. I think the previous biggest VR game i can think of was Asgard's Wrath, which was like 130gb or something.

Shockingly indeed. That was my best guess. If it's only 1/16 of the install space, then, whelp.

Reek
Nov 3, 2002

every.fucking.year.
anybody have one of these 3d printed gun stock accessories or a different brand they recommend?

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Taintrunner posted:

Anton added that absurdist single-shot .50 BMG handgun to H3VR. Shockingly, it's pretty useless in the game's combat situations. Bahaha.

It's fun to use with the streamlined controls though!

I love me some breach-loaders.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Reek posted:

anybody have one of these 3d printed gun stock accessories or a different brand they recommend?



I would like to know the answer to this question

Also, I would like this picture to be in the OP

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Tom Guycot posted:

shockingly:



I'll be fascinated to see what the hell is taking up all that space. I think the previous biggest VR game i can think of was Asgard's Wrath, which was like 130gb or something.

Is the game secretly 100 hours long?!? :psyduck:

What in the gently caress did you do EA

loving Cyberpunk 2077 is half the size of the VR MOH game

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more
theres no way moh will be more demanding than high detail h3vr

also i do find the new quest tempting but my 1 works fine still and i hope the quest 3 will just be better across the board

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3qsqenjGVI

Yeah this guy even calls out the tonal conflict between the gallery's serious veterans history and the campaign being a goofy arcadey fun times adventure.
Ah well, so it goes.

E: Damnit I was totally planning on working on a VR parachute level and they beat me to it :cheeky:

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Dec 5, 2020

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

sea of losers posted:

theres no way moh will be more demanding than high detail h3vr

also i do find the new quest tempting but my 1 works fine still and i hope the quest 3 will just be better across the board

High-detail H3VR really isn't (relatively speaking); The only actual high-poly items are the weapons, the rest looks to be pretty low-poly assets with good texturing. I can make a block of steel with dents and divots that looks really detailed in Unity, and it'll still just be six faces and eight vertices.

Something like Medal of Honor would also have a shitload of HD environmental and character assets to build out with detailed props and furniture, and when you make a shitload of unique model assets (eg; different types of grunts, main characters, vehicles in various states of functionality/usability etc) and texturing to go with them that file size is gonna jump significantly higher.

Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Dec 5, 2020

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

High-detail H3VR really isn't; The only actual high-poly items are the weapons, the rest looks to be pretty low-poly assets with good texturing. I can make a block of steel with dents and divots that looks really detailed in Unity, and it'll still just be six faces and eight vertices.

Something like Medal of Honor would also have a shitload of HD environmental and character assets to build out with detailed props and furniture, and when you make a shitload of unique model assets (eg; different types of grunts, main characters, vehicles in various states of functionality/usability etc) and texturing to go with them that file size is gonna jump significantly higher.

For sure, but there's also no way MOH VR has more environmental or character assets than Cyberpunk 2077, and they shouldn't really need to be higher detail either.

I think Sea of Losers point was more just that the overall visual fidelity of H3VR is higher than MOH, the lighting and shadowing and post-processing, and I agree. Generally MOH doesn't look bad but it definitely feels very last gen or older, the scene feels very flat. Compared to HL Alyx it looks almost downright bad. But you're also right that the guns are the only things really high detail, the hotdogs and environments are extremely extremely basic and generally the game has very few assets.

KTS
Jun 22, 2004

I wax my rocket every day!
Scored my RTX 3060Ti today, I think tonight I'll finally play Alyx, bought it a while ago and just never got around to playing it. The old 1660Ti is going into a dedicated VR pinball PC to run the pinsim controller I'm building currently, still need to grab a few more parts for the controller then start my woodworking.

KinkyJohn
Sep 19, 2002

Maybe they only use 16384 x 16384 uncompressed tiff files for every blurry texture asset

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
drat definitely don't sleep on Pistol Whip 2089

I wasn't really wild about the idea of a story campaign, but the little comic book cutscenes are really cool looking, and the levels let them try new ideas that change things up more than normal songs do.

The second level already feels like something more out of Beat Saber than Pistol Whip, and really got my heart rate going. Serious workout. Very fun.

Stan Taylor
Oct 13, 2013

Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy
MoH being well over 100gb just makes me think the servers will be absolutely empty after a week. I play a lot of games and hard drive space is a premium. I don't think i'd install a game that big even if all my friends were playing it, and I only know one other guy with vr. Most of the VR games I do have are under like 3gb. That's completely insane.

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

SCheeseman posted:

For most solutions you'll need a PC to stream from, note that Firefox is the browser of choice to stream content since it's DRM isnt as prohibitive as other browsers. Chrome and Edge display a black screen or errors when streaming DRMed video, depending on the service.

I use Virtual Desktop since its very fast and straightforward, but Bigscreen is free and allows for VR group watching with avatars, virtual popcorn etc. Skybox is more for watching local media files or locally hosted content streamed from DLNA compatible video servers like Plex. Native VR apps are available for Netflix, Prime and a few others. There's also the option to use the built in Oculus web browser or sideloaded Android apps, but compatibility is spotty due to DRM. Disney Plus works on the browser, but I've run into plenty that does not.

FYI, Firefox has a browser for Quest:

https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2180252408763702/

It seems to be based off the Android Firefox as it supports extensions like uBlock.

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

Stan Taylor posted:

MoH being well over 100gb just makes me think the servers will be absolutely empty after a week. I play a lot of games and hard drive space is a premium. I don't think i'd install a game that big even if all my friends were playing it, and I only know one other guy with vr. Most of the VR games I do have are under like 3gb. That's completely insane.

Well, it's made by Respawn Entertainment, well known for shoving 35 GB of uncompressed audio into Titanfall 1 because the system resource hit on decompressing audio might make you lose a frame or two per second.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Lemming posted:

160 loving gigabytes edit: and THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY to install

2070S subpar

destroy all programmers

Why the hell is twice the size of Cyberpunk 2077

and I don't think I can clear up 320gb on any of my two ssds.

Stan Taylor
Oct 13, 2013

Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

Nalin posted:

Well, it's made by Respawn Entertainment, well known for shoving 35 GB of uncompressed audio into Titanfall 1 because the system resource hit on decompressing audio might make you lose a frame or two per second.

Titanfall 2 and Apex are more in line with similar game sizes at their times of release. I'd say it's more of their hubris on display, like when they decided to launch Titanfall 2 the week between a Battlefield and a CoD.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



They should do a CoD and split single player and multiplayer, maybe that way they can reduce the space needed for each a bit.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Well I didn't manage to stop Steam from popping up the dashboard on thumbstick click, but turns out clicks on the north/south of the touchpad replicates what the thumbstick click was supposed to do in Lone Echo, so I guess that's solved.

Cool game so far. But one thing that's bothering me now that I'm outside the station is that the background rings and other crap look way too close, like a backgrop that it is and not something thousands of kms away.

Lemming posted:

160 loving gigabytes edit: and THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY to install

2070S subpar

destroy all programmers
Hhahaha :fuckoff:

Maybe someone would make a repack of it.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Stan Taylor posted:

Titanfall 2 and Apex are more in line with similar game sizes at their times of release. I'd say it's more of their hubris on display, like when they decided to launch Titanfall 2 the week between a Battlefield and a CoD.

That was more likely EA's decision, not Respawn's.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Picked up Hellblade and I don't know what to make of it. I really enjoyed it on PS4 when it came out. Can't say I ever thought about it being a great fit for VR, but the idea of it being converted to VR was so weird to me I grabbed it for $5 in the steam sale. Couldn't even really picture how that would work. It's certainly an interesting way to present the game. I feel like it works better than it should in some ways and barely at all in others.

Also it's such a nice looking game and I feel the cracks and seams show a lot more in VR than on a screen. Still looks pretty drat nice though. I think the novelty will be enough to get my by for a playthrough. I'm really curious to see how some parts of the game look in VR.

iron buns
Jan 12, 2016

Reek posted:

anybody have one of these 3d printed gun stock accessories or a different brand they recommend?



I have that one, for Quest/Rift S. The cups cracked after a few hours of use, and there doesn't seem to be anything you can do about it. I tried gluing them back together, but they just cracked again at another spot. The plastic is just too brittle.

I did buy another one from some guy on etsy, but ended up not really using it. The stock does give you some stability, but it's pretty cumbersome and gets in the way.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Stan Taylor posted:

MoH being well over 100gb just makes me think the servers will be absolutely empty after a week. I play a lot of games and hard drive space is a premium. I don't think i'd install a game that big even if all my friends were playing it, and I only know one other guy with vr. Most of the VR games I do have are under like 3gb. That's completely insane.

If you have a big HDD you can install it to just to that. It's not like you really get to take advantage of SSD load times in multiplayer games anyways.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
The G2 and the Index both look really solid. Unfortunately I made the mistake of mentioning it to my wife so the choice no longer matters.

She wants an Index.

I hopped on the waitlist. She's drooling over the VR racing sim possibilities and spent two hours last night watching Youtube stuff about it. We might actually save money this coming year by not having to buy tires :v:

Personally, I'll be tracking down a decent VR rifle stock, I think.

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Dec 5, 2020

Vadoc
Dec 31, 2007

Guess who made waffles...


FreelanceSocialist posted:

The G2 and the Index both look really solid. Unfortunately I made the mistake of mentioning it to my wife so the choice no longer matters.

She wants an Index.

I hopped on the waitlist. She's drooling over the VR racing sim possibilities and spent two hours last night watching Youtube stuff about it. We might actually save money this coming year by not having to buy tires :v:

Personally, I'll be tracking down a decent VR rifle stock, I think.

Got space for a driving sim rig too?

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

veni veni veni posted:

If you have a big HDD you can install it to just to that. It's not like you really get to take advantage of SSD load times in multiplayer games anyways.

Multiplayer is one area where loading times can matter quite a lot, depending on how long it takes matches can start before people load in. Given the massive size of the datafiles, SSD is probably a must.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Vadoc posted:

Got space for a driving sim rig too?

She's eyeing a wheel/pedal/shifter setup and a Playseat rig on Facebook Marketplace which appears to be easy to store when not in use. VR means not needing to dedicate a TV or huge rear end monitor to it. So that's good.

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Reek posted:

anybody have one of these 3d printed gun stock accessories or a different brand they recommend?



Magtube by protubeVR, it’s the best. I’ve been using them for about 4 years now and instantly I couldn’t go back to playing shooting games without one of their stocks. Their designs and quality have evolved over time and they are really good stocks.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

veni veni veni posted:

If you have a big HDD you can install it to just to that. It's not like you really get to take advantage of SSD load times in multiplayer games anyways.

I just bought a new PC recently that just had a 500gb SSD in it, and I put my old 2 TB HDD to install non-VR games. That motherfucking MOH game would take up almost the entirety of what I have left in my HDD right now. gently caress that, like I already have to sit and deliberate over which triple-AAA bloated games I want to keep installed and what I'm going to play in the near future, I don't need this giant parasite of a 300 gb game taking up almost 1/4th of my HDD.

Reek
Nov 3, 2002

every.fucking.year.
so like, does anyone know how much this medal of honor game is going to cost?

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

rage-saq posted:

Magtube by protubeVR, it’s the best. I’ve been using them for about 4 years now and instantly I couldn’t go back to playing shooting games without one of their stocks. Their designs and quality have evolved over time and they are really good stocks.

I have a non-magnet version of the protube and I really like it. It’s hard to go back to playing a game where you’re supposed to shoot a gun with two hands without a stock. It’s become pretty much essential gear for me.

Plus the controller holder things are modular so if you ever switch headsets you don’t need all new gear, you can just get the handles.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

FreelanceSocialist posted:

The G2 and the Index both look really solid. Unfortunately I made the mistake of mentioning it to my wife so the choice no longer matters.

She wants an Index.

I hopped on the waitlist. She's drooling over the VR racing sim possibilities and spent two hours last night watching Youtube stuff about it. We might actually save money this coming year by not having to buy tires :v:

Personally, I'll be tracking down a decent VR rifle stock, I think.


Other than somewhat increased clarity in (only) the center of the screen Index is still king if you can pay the ransom

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Reek
Nov 3, 2002

every.fucking.year.

rage-saq posted:

Magtube by protubeVR, it’s the best. I’ve been using them for about 4 years now and instantly I couldn’t go back to playing shooting games without one of their stocks. Their designs and quality have evolved over time and they are really good stocks.

thanks for the input, I think I'll pony up the extra $$$ for the protube as that seems to be the consensus around the web

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