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Cojawfee posted:So you've done stuff with images, are you able to see that it's bad to base a car autopilot entirely on image recognition? Because telsa only uses cameras and routinely thinks that an overpass 200 feet away is a truck and it needs to stop, and it also will think that the ground under a semi trailer is a driveable surface. Or the times it gets dazzled by the sun and slams into a truck. Or doesn't realize that cones are physical objects that shouldn't be hit. These problems are solveable with other tech like radar and lidar, but Elon is disrupting tech and he only wants to use cameras. Yeah, the problem is that all the failures that actually come to light are super-basic poo poo that they should have solved before ever putting a car out onto the road. If they can't get stuff like "disengage if the driver isn't paying attention" or "see a bright red fire-truck straight in front of the car", then what confidence are we supposed to have that they'll actually be able to handle rare cases that their data set may not have come across yet? Like, I dunno, figuring out that every other car on the road has stopped and that maybe you should at least slow down even if you can't see or hear the ambulance siren? Couple that with the fact that I don't for a minute believe their self-reported safety statistics, and I do not in the slightest agree that Tesla has demonstrated that they're safer than human drivers in general. (Plus, IIRC, even if you take it at face value they're worst-in-class for their price point: high-cost vehicles tend to have fewer crashes) Karia fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Dec 5, 2020 |
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The idea of designing an auto-pilot for which the driver's task is to monitor it continuously at all times is in itself flawed design because the intent is that you remain as attentive as if you had no auto-pilot, but lose all forms of engagements in keeping the system in check and eventually run out of practice to actually supplement the auto-pilot when it encounters conditions too difficult to handle. The design is bad in very predictable and fundamental ways.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Whoa look out we have an actual no poo poo mech E undergrad here, descended from on high to explain tesla autopilot to us. rotinaj posted:All of you need to shut your uneducated gobs and listen to me, because I...
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I've mentioned it before, but went through a weird time when I was about 30 where I did this twice in the span of 6 months (lotta stress, lotta drugs). Never before, never after...the first time it happened I went into the store, explained what happened, they didn't know what to do and just said take off no worries. Then it happened again and I just pulled the nozzle out and left, didn't even tell em. In both cases I didn't make it out of the gas station before noticing, because there was a odd resistance to me rolling away from the pump and then a loud rear end bang as the tube whipped the roof of my car.
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LifeSunDeath posted:I've mentioned it before, but went through a weird time when I was about 30 where I did this twice in the span of 6 months (lotta stress, lotta drugs). Never before, never after...the first time it happened I went into the store, explained what happened, they didn't know what to do and just said take off no worries. Then it happened again and I just pulled the nozzle out and left, didn't even tell em. In both cases I didn't make it out of the gas station before noticing, because there was a odd resistance to me rolling away from the pump and then a loud rear end bang as the tube whipped the roof of my car. I guess dude in picture was probably just doing more drugs on less sleep than you?
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Cartoon Man posted:https://i.imgur.com/jTriOwS.gifv I mean, this is pretty impressive.
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Cartoon Man posted:https://i.imgur.com/jTriOwS.gifv I believe this is standard procedure for changing the oil on those.
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Platystemon posted:Are they all copycats of that one guy in Florida or was it a thing even before him? And the writers of that probably got it from Conan Doyle's "The Problem of Thor Bridge".
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Dysgenesis posted:I mean, this is pretty impressive. Nah, this one doesn't tip over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsQ7kjr8C9w
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General Bullshit › OSHA IV: The design is bad in very predictable and fundamental ways.
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oh poo poo https://twitter.com/connorhelm/status/1334268904886194182?s=20
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It seems like they should tie those down somehow. Even if they're heavy there can still be weird shear poo poo going on, especially if the containers are bottom-heavy. 
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Schadenboner posted:It seems like they should tie those down somehow. Even if they're heavy there can still be weird shear poo poo going on, especially if the containers are bottom-heavy. It would have been fine if it wasn't for the wind and the waves. Really no way to see this coming.
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Platystemon posted:Tesla only recently developed object permanence LMAO. Yeah of all the companies pursuing automated driving, I trust Tesla’s the very, very least.
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They are tied down. Sort of. Each of the container's corners has holes for twist locks and turn buckles. Basically interlocking them. You can see some of the knocked over stacks still connected.
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Guyver posted:They are tied down. Sort of. Each of the container's corners has holes for twist locks and turn buckles. Basically interlocking them. You can see some of the knocked over stacks still connected. Right, but I was thinking like straps over the whole pile anchoring it to something load-bearing. I dunno, I know gently caress-all about boats. 
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Atticus_1354 posted:It would have been fine if it wasn't for the wind and the waves. Really no way to see this coming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH0K6ojmGZA
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Schadenboner posted:Right, but I was thinking like straps over the whole pile anchoring it to something load-bearing. At some point, you are looking at the cargo breaking loose or the entire ship capsizing. At least the crew probably didn't die..?
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Schadenboner posted:It seems like they should tie those down somehow. Even if they're heavy there can still be weird shear poo poo going on, especially if the containers are bottom-heavy. a couple bungie cords at least.
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hemale in pain posted:these were packed with PS5's That's where all the GTX 3060/3070/3080's went! I hear Atlantis is all Cryptominers now.
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LifeSunDeath posted:That's where all the GTX 3060/3070/3080's went! I hear Atlantis is all Cryptominers now. no wonder our oceans are heating up
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CarForumPoster posted:I really don’t get the Tesla fear mongering either. I don’t have opinions on “autonomous cars” as a whole because Tesla is the only one with a large amount of miles driven semiautonomously. If the measurement of that safety is miles between incidents autopilot seems to be much safer than the us average, at least according to the numbers reported by Tesla. 4.5M miles between crashes with autopilot engaged compared to a US average of 0.5M. You quite literally cannot trust any of Tesla’s safety statistics: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/02/in-2017-the-feds-said-tesla-autopilot-cut-crashes-40-that-was-bogus/
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I'm not a first-year engineering student so I have no idea, but are the stresses all transmitted to the bottom container that has to bear the brunt, or does locking them together share it out?
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Gromit posted:I'm not a first-year engineering student so I have no idea, but are the stresses all transmitted to the bottom container that has to bear the brunt, or does locking them together share it out? We're going to need at least a second year student to run those numbers
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tactlessbastard posted:We're going to need at least a second year student to run those numbers I got two first-year students, does that work?
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HardDiskD posted:I got two first-year students, does that work? This is at least a 15 year-student problem.
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I’ll happily agree that Tesla’s approach is comically dangerous, but I hope we can also appreciate the irony of us doing so in a thread that’s content is 50% human beings being idiots in vehicles which gets derailed for dozens of posts in the fairy rare instance one of those vehicles is a Tesla.
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HardDiskD posted:I got two first-year students, does that work? No, they only add up to sqrt(2)
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A Tesla truck probably wouldn't get eaten by the 11 ft 8" bridge. It still might, but you could probably blame human error for that (you have to somehow inform the AI how tall your cargo is, and how high the bridges along your route are).
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Blue Moonlight posted:I’ll happily agree that Tesla’s approach is comically dangerous, but I hope we can also appreciate the irony of us doing so in a thread that’s content is 50% human beings being idiots in vehicles which gets derailed for dozens of posts in the fairy rare instance one of those vehicles is a Tesla. it's almost like...there's not very many of them on the road...and also are the only ones having self driving accidents...and therefore get a lot of attention when it happens. 
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Clean, made bed, cat, I don't see the issue
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Columbia, South Carolina represent 
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Azhais posted:Clean, made bed, cat, I don't see the issue poo poo, there's even art on the walls and the bench seems like a not-bad 'Set it up, use it, then store it in the garage' sort of setup.
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