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ilkhan posted:Not the best method of charging, but an interesting video nevertheless. Crazier version is to charge by towing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaGVoB4Zn-Y
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VideoGameVet posted:Kandi K27 EV Test Drive So I thought I heard these guys mention "Garland cop" while driving the Kandi around and... sure enough, Kandi has set up it's US HQ in Garland, TX (in the Dallas area, for those not familiar.) Interesting. I'm in the DFW area, so might need to check these dorky little things out, since they'll be local.
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RZA Encryption posted:Changli is hosed
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ilkhan posted:Not the best method of charging, but an interesting video nevertheless. Amusing when he says 7.2 kW is a "lot of power". Dude, don't ever look at the power graphs in a data logger from that Model Y Performance doing a drag race. My Model 3 Performance has hit 397 kW output on a launch. Also amusing "never heard the engine rev higher to delver the power". Yes, it should surprise absolutely nobody that a huge F150 engine idles at >7.2 kW of output (which by the way is just short of 10 HP).
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It's good for an inverter built into a truck. They have a Model Y
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I thought it was impressive that it pushed 7.2kW of AC power at 1000 rpm. Some dynamo/generator setup in that car 
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Indiana_Krom posted:Amusing when he says 7.2 kW is a "lot of power". That truck would replace the backup generator for my house, it’s awesome.
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VideoGameVet posted:Kandi K27 EV Test Drive I really do think things like this could do well in the US. I wait our cheap EV future.
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sanchez posted:That truck would replace the backup generator for my house, it’s awesome. How much do you pay to get the hybrid and then the 7.2kw package, though?
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Some napkin math for that F-150 vs. this 6kW generator gives a slight edge to the F-150 in terms of economy, which would make this a pretty good option, for say a tow/recovery vehicle offering roadside charging assistance, or anywhere else you feel you may need to charge your EV, say out in the forest riding trails.
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I wonder why they hybridized the 3.5 instead of the 2.7
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Charles posted:How much do you pay to get the hybrid and then the 7.2kw package, though? LibCrusher posted:I wonder why they hybridized the 3.5 instead of the 2.7 ilkhan fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Dec 3, 2020 |
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Man the hybrid F-150 is really appealing to me. Lots of technology, plenty of space, and a generator for hurricane season. I love it for everything except the size and the price. I dislike not being able to park in my garage. I could park it in my driveway but I'd probably need to deal with my tree that loves to drop random branches without warning (and truckloads of acorns in the fall). And the price starts getting into the $60k range when you start adding all the cool stuff I like.
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I saw this on Ars and am pretty excited: Everything we know about Hyundai and Kia’s new electric vehicle platform With new models showing up for Kia and Hyundai in 2021.
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priznat posted:I saw this on Ars and am pretty excited: I'm glad I leased the Niro EV. This looks like a huge step up, particularly on the fast charging.
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Yeah this is pretty cool. The forthcoming Ioniq 6 is supposed to be based on the Hyundai Prophecy concept, which is pretty neat looking. https://www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/company/newsroom/-0000016411 Its due out in 2022, so its a little too far out for any spy shots or anything of the actual production version to get leaked yet.
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Kia please make an EV Stinger with similar performance tyvm
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Hopefully they'll have a smaller AWD vehicle.
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Charles posted:Hopefully they'll have a smaller AWD vehicle. Yeah, something small, that's really useful, and all wheel drive. Kind of a cross between a car and bigger utility vehicle. We could call it a combined functional vehicle, or something.
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priznat posted:Kia please make an EV Stinger with similar performance tyvm This please. I'd be pretty goddamn happy with a Stinger-like EV on this purpose built platform. If the Ioniq 6 ends up in that ballpark, that will be tempting. Hopefully we'll start getting some pricing and concrete info on the Ioniq line soon.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Yeah, something small, that's really useful, and all wheel drive. Kind of a cross between a car and bigger utility vehicle. We could call it a combined functional vehicle, or something. Can skip the cuv. Just regular ride height, like a regular Impreza.
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priznat posted:Kia please make an EV Stinger with similar performance tyvm
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FilthyImp posted:EV Stinger might be enough to work against the Kia Badge Bias It'd be better brilliant to overcome the fact that you have to buy it from a Kia dealer!
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Godzilla07 posted:It'd be better brilliant to overcome the fact that you have to buy it from a Kia dealer! The one I bought from was pretty good, apart from the constant need to do surveys that must be 5/5 or the heavens will split asunder with the wrath of terrible gods.
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priznat posted:The one I bought from was pretty good, apart from the constant need to do surveys that must be 5/5 or the heavens will split asunder with the wrath of terrible gods. I think the stupid poo poo survey thing is pretty much all dealerships now.
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Bandire posted:I think the stupid poo poo survey thing is pretty much all dealerships now. Figures, it seems like something that would just become mandatory. It's so dumb because scaring anyone into giving anything other than a perfect score renders it essentially useless.
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priznat posted:I saw this on Ars and am pretty excited: I wonder why other companies aren't doing the "foot garages" layout where they move cells from the back seat footwells to under the back seats. It would make a load of sense in compact cars like this, or any BEV with back seats really.
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knox_harrington posted:I wonder why other companies aren't doing the "foot garages" layout where they move cells from the back seat footwells to under the back seats. It would make a load of sense in compact cars like this, or any BEV with back seats really. I believe it is for weight distribution and balance. The battery heaviest component in the car, but it can pretty much be anywhere in the vehicle and any shape. Flat, low, and in the middle is ideal for center of gravity and improves driving dynamics.
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Bandire posted:I believe it is for weight distribution and balance. The battery heaviest component in the car, but it can pretty much be anywhere in the vehicle and any shape. Flat, low, and in the middle is ideal for center of gravity and improves driving dynamics. They foot garages are just small cutouts in a battery pack that is flat, low, and in the center so I don’t think that has anything to do with it.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:They foot garages are just small cutouts in a battery pack that is flat, low, and in the center so I don’t think that has anything to do with it. Yeah I misunderstood what he meant and had to do more googling. I assumed he meant putting the displaced cells in the seat base rather than extending the battery module further back. Is this only on the Taycan at this point? EV packaging and design it still kinda new territory, so it may just be that no one else has had the time to steal it from Porsche yet.
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I had to look it up too: https://jalopnik.com/the-porsche-taycan-was-designed-with-something-called-f-1836023684
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knox_harrington posted:I wonder why other companies aren't doing the "foot garages" layout where they move cells from the back seat footwells to under the back seats. It would make a load of sense in compact cars like this, or any BEV with back seats really. It probably makes the battery pack harder to use in so many models because the placement of foot rests will be different from vehicle to vehicle. It’s something you can do with a Porsche where the pack design is unique, harder if you want the pack to transfer to ten or twenty different models. If you’re going for scale, you need every small margin.
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harperdc posted:It probably makes the battery pack harder to use in so many models because the placement of foot rests will be different from vehicle to vehicle. It’s something you can do with a Porsche where the pack design is unique, harder if you want the pack to transfer to ten or twenty different models. If you’re going for scale, you need every small margin. The Taycan battery is modular and the arrangement of modules could be adjusted to fit other vehicles.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The Taycan battery is modular and the arrangement of modules could be adjusted to fit other vehicles. Yep. Audi's making an RS e-tron GT from the Taycan drivetrain & battery.
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Bandire posted:Yeah I misunderstood what he meant and had to do more googling. I assumed he meant putting the displaced cells in the seat base rather than extending the battery module further back. Is this only on the Taycan at this point? EV packaging and design it still kinda new territory, so it may just be that no one else has had the time to steal it from Porsche yet. The Leaf has had this forever though?
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Man I've been seeing the EQV in real life now a couple of times and my god is it one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen. What were they thinking?
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pun pundit posted:The Leaf has had this forever though? Its funny that the 10 years the Leaf has been on the market is "forever", but it is absolutely true in the terms of the existence of actual usable EVs. Figuring out what "foot garages" are via google was hard enough. That's why I asked if anyone else was chopping up their battery to make foot space. I still don't see three inches of rear footwell depth as worth the added complexity. I drive a Mustang though, so the concept of comfortable back seat is foreign to me.
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I ran across this series of videos the other day about the wheego LiFe- a production car from a company with aspirations of taking on Tesla but on an r&d budget of $8M and with 7 employees. They made ~100 of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtwHfv4kJSQ It is awful He's got 13 or so videos on it from when he got it to when it, spoiler alert, dies.
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MrOnBicycle posted:Man I've been seeing the EQV in real life now a couple of times and my god is it one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen. What were they thinking? It looks like an updated R-Class. Maybe they wanted it to look like an ugly minivan they discontinued 8 years ago?
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