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I hope chuds die of horrible cases of coronavirus and I’m tired of pretending it’s not okay.
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Dec 6, 2020 23:06
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 RUDY'S IN THE HOSPITAL https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1335696508507840512
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Dec 6, 2020 23:15
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RFC2324 posted:yup. its gonna correct the climate into killing us all Strictly speaking it makes less CO2 per volume of fuel than clean burns do Because it's all soot particulates instead
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Dec 6, 2020 23:21
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The fearsome, unstoppable right wing death squads, literally ripped from WH40k and Jin Roh combined, chanting "gently caress ANTIFA", "AMERICA FIRST" between each desperate gasp for oxygen while their lung-tubes narrow even tighter. Truly 
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Dec 6, 2020 23:22
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Strictly speaking it makes less CO2 per volume of fuel than clean burns do CO isn't really the nuisance part of diesel anyhow, it's NOX that's the concern there. I love that our solution to NOX has been to inject high pressure piss mist into diesel exhaust.
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Dec 6, 2020 23:25
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Yeah, I couldn't remember if soot increases NOX emissions so I didn't mention it. And piss - good for Trump, good for your exhaust!
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Dec 6, 2020 23:32
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https://twitter.com/BudKennedy/status/1335566158251110405?s=19 In funny news
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Dec 6, 2020 23:36
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Fetterman believes the exposure timing is consistent with the Gettysburg rally. https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1335706348089188352?s=20
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Dec 6, 2020 23:40
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:But why is that bad, given the context of the characterization? Is dehumanization inherently bad, or only in the context of bigotry? Yes, it's inherently bad.
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Dec 7, 2020 00:02
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SquirrelyPSU posted:Fetterman believes the exposure timing is consistent with the Gettysburg rally. Yep, I think he’s dead on. One of our special needs Reps got it the same time.
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Dec 7, 2020 00:06
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PeterCat posted:Yes, it's inherently bad. That's where we'll have to disagree. If someone chooses to live their life in a way that oppresses other people, I really don't give a poo poo about decorum when it comes to talking about them.
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Dec 7, 2020 00:45
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Pine Cone Jones posted:https://twitter.com/BudKennedy/status/1335566158251110405?s=19 For reference, Greg Abbott uses a wheelchair.
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Dec 7, 2020 01:14
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PeterCat posted:Yes, it's inherently bad. If the CHUD's entire point of view is heavily based in exceptionalism, it is only equitable to make an exception for them on this point. (Also in the movie the CHUDs were all people without homes forced to seek shelter in the subways and tunnels beneath a city where they were subjected to horrific mutations due to a corporation just dumping random radioactive toxic goo and the government colluded with the corporation to allow it and cover it up so, you know, irony. Maybe we should just call them chumps instead? Cannibalistic Hateful Ulterior of the Mass Political Spectacle, if it has to be an acronym. C.H.U.M.P.S.) Effective-Disorder fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Dec 7, 2020 |
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Dec 7, 2020 01:15
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Stultus Maximus posted:For reference, Greg Abbott uses a wheelchair. For further reference he’s a shithead. let’s be honest we all have watched that Mac and the clip and thought of him... because he such a repellent piece of poo poo, that was a tourney general somehow manages too top it and he owes our lieutenant governor $2 million in Sheetz gift cards.
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Dec 7, 2020 01:29
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:That's where we'll have to disagree. If someone chooses to live their life in a way that oppresses other people, I really don't give a poo poo about decorum when it comes to talking about them. If its only decorum, then its not inherent. If I understand PeterCat's position, the inheritance has nothing to do with etiquette, but with belief and espousal. Belief in whether some humans are beneath common human dignity and the act of espousing those belief in order to convince others that there exists a class of subhuman. One can violate the first component and therefore commit what is claimed by the previous poster to be an immoral act and still be within the bounds of decorum because the violation is that of belief. While treating other people as human is the common etiquette, you can violate the second half, espousal without breaching etiquette, as evidenced by, you know, all of American history. Based on this, the issue is separate from that one decorum. The issue is of belief in the subhuman and in convincing others to treat others as subhuman. I dont expect you to agree with that--based on your statements, I expect that you believe that transgressions make someone worthy or not of being treated as a human and that the moral failings of the "chuds" to earn them this unworthy role is that they did not properly assess who to dehumanize, not the act in general. Is that correct?
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Dec 7, 2020 01:33
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I think we can all agree that if someone can do it Darrell Davis job on a CHUD, Nazi, or KKK member that is cool as poo poo to. So maybe there is some room for a certain type of decorum.
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Dec 7, 2020 01:35
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Coal rolling at least is a self-correcting problem Kinda. It'll seize up their piston rings eventually through carbon buildup. But it also contributes heavily to childhood asthma 
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Dec 7, 2020 01:41
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CommieGIR posted:Kinda. It'll seize up their piston rings eventually through carbon buildup. Like I said even lol’ing at Rudy or Trump is tempered by all the decent honest people they infected or also murdered.
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Dec 7, 2020 01:45
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https://twitter.com/parkerbutler10/status/1335708706701512704?s=20 This is most R Senators who want to be Culture Warriors owning the libs on social media instead of doing policy whatnot
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Dec 7, 2020 01:57
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MazelTovCocktail posted:For further reference he’s a shithead. let’s be honest we all have watched that Mac and the clip and thought of him... because he such a repellent piece of poo poo, that was a tourney general somehow manages too top it and he owes our lieutenant governor $2 million in Sheetz gift cards. Even better, he got into an accident that resulted in a multi million dollar settlement, used that to launch himself into a political career, and has been trying to pull up the ladder via "tort reform" since. piL posted:I dont expect you to agree with that--based on your statements, I expect that you believe that transgressions make someone worthy or not of being treated as a human and that the moral failings of the "chuds" to earn them this unworthy role is that they did not properly assess who to dehumanize, not the act in general. Is that correct? That's exactly it. I think someone can forfeit their humanity through their choices and actions. People who spit on equal rights and democracy can reasonably and morally be called chuds or pigs, depending on whether they have a badge or not, because they can always choose to be decent people and have decided to forfeit that option for the whole oppression thing. But calling someone an animal because of the circumstances of their birth is immoral dehumanization.
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Dec 7, 2020 02:06
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Stultus Maximus posted:Do rich and well connected people even die of this any more? Depends on your definition of rich. My parent's church, which is full of old people who are well off, is getting wrecked.
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Dec 7, 2020 02:06
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Even better, he got into an accident that resulted in a multi million dollar settlement, used that to launch himself into a political career, and has been trying to pull up the ladder via "tort reform" since. Yeah gently caress Cowboys fans.
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Dec 7, 2020 02:07
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facialimpediment posted:
dudes may die of it. he is in worse shape than trump somehow. Stultus Maximus posted:For reference, Greg Abbott uses a wheelchair. so am i and i still laughed. i mean no poo poo chuds are ablisst fuckheads. of course known on the ground war criminal allen west says that poo poo. i will say its funny how all the wheelchairbound chuds i have heard of were never actually born with disabilities, they got them from accidents or being dumb assholes that resulted in accidents.
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Dec 7, 2020 02:08
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Dapper_Swindler posted:dudes may die of it. he is in worse shape than trump somehow. You know that price of poo poo is going to get experimental treatment. If he got standard care offered to a normal American or a minorities his rear end would be in truck in 72 hours.
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Dec 7, 2020 02:11
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i will say its funny how all the wheelchairbound chuds i have heard of were never actually born with disabilities, they got them from accidents or being dumb assholes that resulted in accidents. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4VaY7xCmRE
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Dec 7, 2020 02:22
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MazelTovCocktail posted:I think we can all agree that if someone can do it Darrell Davis job on a CHUD, Nazi, or KKK member that is cool as poo poo to. So maybe there is some room for a certain type of decorum. I dont know what a Darrell Davis job is, but, in theory, I dont really take moral qualms with being mean to people who are mean to others as long as it there are appropriate brakes before causing undue harm and its applied to those who have demonstrated the behavior, not those that belong to a clade of individuals similar to others. I suspect many people aren't concerned with being terribly rigorous with the second of my qualifications and I worry if caught in the wrong situation, they'll be normalized to not worry about the first. From a practical argument though I dont think the tactic is effective. It best serves to create an isolated and damaged class who finds their socially enforced position justified whenever they try to interact with "the other". Because they're forever tied to that other group based on their birth location and rearing, along with all of their social connections, those people have to completely isolated during a pivotal period in their life to be extracted. The socioeconomic means of that extraction, moving from rural area to the city for economic, social, or educational reasons in small groups, or personal deep review of literature independent of social group, will not outstrip the the recruitment rate. Especially since there's power in playing them against that "other". It's a recipe for continuous conflict or continued friction within the political system and a schism thats geographically messy and very dangerous.
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Dec 7, 2020 02:23
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 Staten Island’s hottest club is... MAC’S PUB. It’s got everything- illegal parties in contravention of COVID restrictions, NYPD surveillance, Proud Boys, the owner driving for three blocks with a cop clinging on for dear life, and rabid Trump supporters! https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-macs-pub-owner-arrested-hits-deputy-car-20201206-q7evw2qyx5di3d7l34tjlyzdra-story.html
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Dec 7, 2020 02:31
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Dapper_Swindler posted:
Or a flat refusal to manage their diabetes.
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Dec 7, 2020 02:33
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:
Where I see the moral risk here first is that one will make that assessment without sufficient data for many people fairly easily. I.e. all of those people are x, because they are very similar to the y who clearly wronged me. Things become fuzzy when you're defininf groups of real people and not dealing with famous ones with well established records or hypotheticals. One is likely to put people in that category based on unproven connections. This is part of the path that got them there to begin with, and so that path is demonstrably fraught. The second moral issue to consider is that, based on location, economic backgrounds, social structures, quality of schools and curriculum, the supporters of those who have been demonstrated as meeting your sufficient conditions did not choose the circumstances of their birth that led to their beliefs, erroneous or not. So if you conflate the demagogues and their supporters, you may very well assign this value to individuals who are at fault for listening to nearly every authority figure, loved one, and peer in their early lives instead of having a rebellious streak and finding the right corner of the internet or were sufficiently antisocial enough to arrive at conclusions in opposition to these influences through other means of personal exploration. This is not dissimilar to blaming someone for the circumstances of their birth. I dont know who you refer to when you define your groups of course, but I think its very easy to cross into the other. I think this is the moral justification some will use to say that its never moral to think of people like that--because of how easy it is to stray off the cleanly defined, "morally justified" range of derision.
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Dec 7, 2020 02:37
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/parkerbutler10/status/1335708706701512704?s=20 Cool. They should ask Ossof if he supports marijuana legalization or single payer.
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Dec 7, 2020 02:40
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piL posted:I dont know what a Darrell Davis job is, but, in theory, I dont really take moral qualms with being mean to people who are mean to others as long as it there are appropriate brakes before causing undue harm and its applied to those who have demonstrated the behavior, not those that belong to a clade of individuals similar to others. I suspect many people aren't concerned with being terribly rigorous with the second of my qualifications and I worry if caught in the wrong situation, they'll be normalized to not worry about the first. I totally understand, but when a black man ends up with a Klan members robe...it feels like the greatest victory of all. I just...I dunno maybe it’s being Jewish and a lawyer and traditionally being regarded as weak in the American political system (barring Meyer Lansky) that a man who broke a Klan members defense makes him the greatest hero of all. Maybe not the most effective, but still the ultimate victory of wits. I should add that this assumes the person hasn’t done something repulsive and vile. Daryl Davis convinced klan members to give up the Klan and got to keep their robes. Something about that owns so loving hard.  
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Dec 7, 2020 02:44
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https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1335763321027502081?s=19
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Dec 7, 2020 02:51
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aaaaaaand there it is https://twitter.com/EricLiptonNYT/status/1335764756083449856 serves them all right
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Dec 7, 2020 03:09
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MazelTovCocktail posted:I totally understand, but when a black man ends up with a Klan members robe...it feels like the greatest victory of all. I just...I dunno maybe it’s being Jewish and a lawyer and traditionally being regarded as weak in the American political system (barring Meyer Lansky) that a man who broke a Klan members defense makes him the greatest hero of all. Maybe not the most effective, but still the ultimate victory of wits. I should add that this assumes the person hasn’t done something repulsive and vile. Oh yeah, now that I spelled the name right, I found not a basketball player from the 60s, but this guy. And thats the thread of my argument from practicality. The Atlantic article suggests that treating them as human was key to those results. Daryl Davis to The Atlantic posted:You challenge them. But you don't challenge them rudely or violently. You do it politely and intelligently. And when you do things that way chances are they will reciprocate and give you a platform. So he and I would sit down and listen to one another over a period of time. And the cement that held his ideas together began to get cracks in it. And then it began to crumble. And then it fell apart.
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Dec 7, 2020 03:12
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piL posted:Oh yeah, now that I spelled the name right, I found not a basketball player from the 60s, but this guy. And thats the thread of my argument from practicality. The Atlantic article suggests that treating them as human was key to those results. Yep, I respect that approach a hell of a lot. I mean I’m more a fan of a Billy club to the knee, so god bless any man who can reach and convert them. They’re like the top tier of humanity. Also there is something about a black man having that many Klan robes is the biggest power fantasy since Doom. Honestly as an attorney that man is the model of what I should always strive to be.
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Dec 7, 2020 03:19
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piL posted:Where I see the moral risk here first is that one will make that assessment without sufficient data for many people fairly easily. I.e. all of those people are x, because they are very similar to the y who clearly wronged me. Things become fuzzy when you're defininf groups of real people and not dealing with famous ones with well established records or hypotheticals. One is likely to put people in that category based on unproven connections. This is part of the path that got them there to begin with, and so that path is demonstrably fraught. You are basically writing out my thoughts. My conclusions have been that anyone in that class is not worth compromising my principles for and I do the best to avoid it. I also work with a lot of Trump supporters and Republicans and can't just ignore them. I have to build a level of trust to be effective as a leader and manager and attach importance to their well being and believe in them as people because of this. Finally, I need to set an example for those around me to follow and push standards to be upheld. Hypocrisy is a sin here so working through stuff this stuff here helps. There are perfectly valid reasons to believe differently and I was debating the other side as well.. Thanks guys.
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Dec 7, 2020 03:33
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Noted YouTube dipshit Logan Paul has called out Floyd Mayweather and will likely get his rear end beaten in February.
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Dec 7, 2020 03:33
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Midjack posted:Noted YouTube dipshit Logan Paul has called out Floyd Mayweather and will likely get his rear end beaten in February. Honestly it’s amazing that Logan Paul can make a guy who beats women look like the moral superior.
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Dec 7, 2020 03:34
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https://nypost.com/2020/12/06/si-autonomous-zone-bar-owner-released-from-custody/ Why this dude wasn't wasted by the cops isn't beyond me, why he was released isn't either. Pine Cone Jones fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Dec 7, 2020 |
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Dec 7, 2020 03:36
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Pine Cone Jones posted:https://nypost.com/2020/12/06/si-autonomous-zone-bar-owner-released-from-custody/ Honestly I think even Commie would have been chill with the cops opening up on him with everything that had. Seriously would have saved a lot of money too.
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