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Mr Hootington posted:If you are doing 80s try and do a read through of the "grounded" vigilants and spy series. Any examples?
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Jupiter Jazz posted:Any examples? Either or in another thread people were talking about Vigilante, the Question, Suicide Squad and Hitman are the other 80s books I hear talked up a bunch.
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Dec 6, 2020 22:59
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I ended up liking Batman/Catwoman. Sets up a interesting story between Batman/Catwoman/Phantasm/Joker, and I can never get enough scenes of Batman and Catwoman making out. Connecting Selina Kyle to the Sewer King, of all people, is actually rather clever.
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Dec 6, 2020 23:12
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Mr Hootington posted:If you are doing 80s try and do a read through of the "grounded" vigilants and spy series. Also Ostrander's Suicide Squad is a solid 80s title. Also Firestorm but I am biased towards Firestorm.
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Dec 7, 2020 00:14
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Mr Hootington posted:He kills someone in the second issue I looked it up and yeah but he drops them down an incinerator chute so you don't get confirmation that the guy died, which feels like exactly the kind of dumb technicality that'd get you past the CCA.
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Dec 7, 2020 00:22
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Skwirl posted:Either or in another thread people were talking about Vigilante, the Question, Suicide Squad and Hitman are the other 80s books I hear talked up a bunch. The Question is so good. One of my favorite runs ever.
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Dec 7, 2020 02:14
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Jupiter Jazz posted:Any examples? Exact reading order would be Vigilante to start. Move to, Suicide Squad, Checkmate Peacemaker mini series, and Captain atom. Overall it is a bit of a trip but paints a picture of the DC universe's government run meta monitoring agencies that have only expanded since. If I missed anything others can fill in. A lot of 80s DC series are good or interesting at the least. They revamp and expand the universe and by the mid 80s are trying to recapture CoIE and Watchmen.
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Dec 7, 2020 02:15
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Blockhouse posted:I looked it up and yeah but he drops them down an incinerator chute so you don't get confirmation that the guy died, which feels like exactly the kind of dumb technicality that'd get you past the CCA. He kills someone in issue #4.
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Dec 7, 2020 05:41
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Wanted to try New Teen Titans so I read the first ish and....I didn't like it. I hate that Cyborg talks like a walking black stereotype. They gave him the Barret treatment where his English is lesser than other characters. Then there's Beast Boy, who kinda sucks. And the overall tone feels so aged despite being an 80's comic. It feels straight out of the 60's. Hopefully the rest of it is better than this.
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Dec 7, 2020 06:10
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Mariko Tamaki is going to be the new ongoing writer for Detective Comics. I haven't read any of her super hero stuff but her original graphic novels are excellent. That being said the original graphic novels of hers that I have read have been teen orientated and usually from a teenage girl perspective so I am very curious about how it will work with Batman. If her superhero stuff is good though, let me know.
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Dec 7, 2020 06:40
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Madkal posted:Mariko Tamaki is going to be the new ongoing writer for Detective Comics. I haven't read any of her super hero stuff but her original graphic novels are excellent. That being said the original graphic novels of hers that I have read have been teen orientated and usually from a teenage girl perspective so I am very curious about how it will work with Batman. If her superhero stuff is good though, let me know. Her X-23 series was very good.
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Dec 7, 2020 06:42
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Madkal posted:Mariko Tamaki is going to be the new ongoing writer for Detective Comics. I haven't read any of her super hero stuff but her original graphic novels are excellent. That being said the original graphic novels of hers that I have read have been teen orientated and usually from a teenage girl perspective so I am very curious about how it will work with Batman. If her superhero stuff is good though, let me know. I knew she was gonna do a Detective one shot for the future state thing DC is doing, didn't realize she was taking over the ongoing.
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Dec 7, 2020 06:57
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Skwirl posted:I knew she was gonna do a Detective one shot for the future state thing DC is doing, didn't realize she was taking over the ongoing. Saw the announcement today. https://www.polygon.com/comics/2020/12/6/22150302/batman-detective-comics-dc-mariko-tamaki
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Dec 7, 2020 07:15
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Awesome, also shocked she's only the second women to be the main writer on a Batbook run, and that the first was Devin Greyson.
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Dec 7, 2020 07:32
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Ugh wtf she’s putting Tim Drake back into that stupid loving new 52 costume
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Dec 7, 2020 08:50
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Jupiter Jazz posted:Any examples? Suicide Squad (the best) Checkmate Peacemaker Vigilante Captain Atom (not grounded but part of the whole government DC stuff from the 80s)
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Dec 7, 2020 08:52
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Noob Saibot posted:Ugh wtf she’s putting Tim Drake back into that stupid loving new 52 costume When is someone going to have the sense to put Superman back in the jeans and t-shirt
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Dec 7, 2020 08:57
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Skwirl posted:I knew she was gonna do a Detective one shot for the future state thing DC is doing, didn't realize she was taking over the ongoing. Turns out like 90% of the Future State creative teams are just going to be the actual creative teams for the future. It seems like those books are presenting bad future version of where the DCU is heading instead of just being completely unconnected.
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Dec 7, 2020 10:34
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Noob Saibot posted:Ugh wtf she’s putting Tim Drake back into that stupid loving new 52 costume There is an okay chance she had nothing to do with that decision. Costume decisions are not always up to the writer.
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Dec 7, 2020 10:37
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Blockhouse posted:Turns out like 90% of the Future State creative teams are just going to be the actual creative teams for the future. It seems like those books are presenting bad future version of where the DCU is heading instead of just being completely unconnected. That's cool. I just remember being excited that Gail Simone was writing the Iron-Man War of Realms tie-in (good two issues, it's just Iron-Man fighting a dragon) and being confused hoping it meant Dan Slott was off the book.
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Dec 7, 2020 10:41
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Jupiter Jazz posted:Wanted to try New Teen Titans so I read the first ish and....I didn't like it. New Teen Titans, especially early on, feels like someone trying to ape Claremont's Uncanny X-Men in a DC milieu and really not finding the right energy.
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Dec 7, 2020 11:03
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Noob Saibot posted:Ugh wtf she’s putting Tim Drake back into that stupid loving new 52 costume The picture is from detective comics 1000
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Dec 7, 2020 11:12
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Noob Saibot posted:Ugh wtf she’s putting Tim Drake back into that stupid loving new 52 costume 
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Dec 7, 2020 13:36
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Noob Saibot posted:Ugh wtf she’s putting Tim Drake back into that stupid loving new 52 costume Better than that poo poo brown "Drake" costume that Bendis had him in. (Also I actually like the N52 costume, sue me)
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Dec 7, 2020 18:24
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Noob Saibot posted:Ugh wtf she’s putting Tim Drake back into that stupid loving new 52 costume
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Dec 7, 2020 23:01
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TwoPair posted:Better than that poo poo brown "Drake" costume that Bendis had him in. The 90s costume they brought back for tynions detective and the early part of bendis YJ run is far and away the best. Damians looks different enough and anyone reading dc comics now adays can accept there are two robins
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Dec 7, 2020 23:28
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Tim gets to be Robin again because Damian gave it up because there can ever only technically be One Robin (except for that time there was a gang of them).
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Dec 8, 2020 02:26
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Xelkelvos posted:Tim gets to be Robin again because Damian gave it up because there can ever only technically be One Robin (except for that time there was a gang of them). Don't paper over that, it was a gang of Robins, and Dog Robin that went to Apokalips to save Bruce and get Damian's coffin back. It was batshit crazy and it ruled because HellBat Armor is metal as gently caress and Tomasi and Gleason wrote it. 
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Jiro posted:Don't paper over that, it was a gang of Robins, and Dog Robin that went to Apokalips to save Bruce and get Damian's coffin back. It was batshit crazy and it ruled because HellBat Armor is metal as gently caress and Tomasi and Gleason wrote it. I believe they're referring to the We Are Robin series, but the story you're referencing was indeed pretty cool.
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Dec 8, 2020 15:16
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How old is Damian in the comics now? Also there's so many Batman comics out now. What's worth reading? Batman is the obvious one.
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Dec 9, 2020 00:38
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Jupiter Jazz posted:How old is Damian in the comics now? Damian is 13 iirc. He was older than John by about a year or less before he was aged up. As far as what's worth reading right now? Catwoman seems solid and just started a new arc a month or two ago where she's relocated to Gotham for a bit. Red Hood and the Outlaws also just started a new arc last month with a new writer and it's also in a different and slightly less impoverished part of Gotham and looks possibly promising. The current arc for Nightwing just ended so who knows where it's at. Same with Batgirl I think. Punchline is also technically a batbook but it's bad and dumb.
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Dec 9, 2020 02:18
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Honestly there is a huge relaunch basically happening in March just wait for that if you want to read current stuff. There is a mountain of good older bat comics in the meantime. I personally love Morrisons Batman and Robin, but the best era is probably around the time period Jason Todd existed the first time. Very grounded and interesting compared to how modern Batman stuff is. Batman struggles to fight guys and solve crimes sometimes! The first KGBeast story is a perfect Batman story.
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Dec 9, 2020 03:43
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Honestly there is a huge relaunch basically happening in March just wait for that if you want to read current stuff. There is a mountain of good older bat comics in the meantime. 90's era breaking the Bat?
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Dec 9, 2020 04:02
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90s era Doug Moench/Kelley Jones Batman is my personal fave Batman. Highly recommended if you like Batman in a 30's horror style vibe
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Dec 9, 2020 06:31
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The Multiverse Christmas special had some interesting bits in it. The Earth-13 Ragman version is pretty cool and there was a not-Jon and not-Damian story.
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Dec 9, 2020 08:31
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Jupiter Jazz posted:90's era breaking the Bat? Mostly like the late 80s Batstuff. Batman is a maniac obsessed with law and order, it still has some gritty crime elements without being too silly about it, and while the stakes can be high they can also be low. I do love a good supervillain but it the older stuff it avoids the modern problem of every story being about an established named character (who have all slide further down the Just A Mass Murderer path after the Joker) They have trades of that era called Batman: The Caped Crusader and Batman Dark Knight Detective that I would recommend if you want to pick them up. Long Halloween and Batman Year One are also must reads in my opinion. Definitely get them if you have not already.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Mostly like the late 80s Batstuff. Batman is a maniac obsessed with law and order, it still has some gritty crime elements without being too silly about it, and while the stakes can be high they can also be low. I do love a good supervillain but it the older stuff it avoids the modern problem of every story being about an established named character (who have all slide further down the Just A Mass Murderer path after the Joker) I've been reading Batman comics from the 80's. I started with Year One and now I'm reading Batman issues from that period up. Right now Dick isn't Batman anymore and Tim just outfitted as Robin for the first time. If I keep going will I get to those books? Haven't been reading Detective Comics.
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Jupiter Jazz posted:I've been reading Batman comics from the 80's. I started with Year One and now I'm reading Batman issues from that period up. Right now Dick isn't Batman anymore and Tim just outfitted as Robin for the first time. If I keep going will I get to those books? Haven't been reading Detective Comics. Just savor the Aparo/Breyfoggle artwork.
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Dec 9, 2020 17:07
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Madkal posted:Just savor the Aparo/Breyfoggle artwork. Isn't that the truth. These were the first Batman artists I ever read. So spoiled.
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New Teen Titans is a total snore so far. X-Men wannabe comic made in the 80's with the 60's level writing. The lack of team chemistry, it all feels so forced. It reminds me of a 60's X-Men comic made 20 years later. It's bad. I'll stick to Batman for now.  Pretty embarrassing comic book. Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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